08 Barbarian Mod

Jagermeister · Feb 23, 2008

I just performed the Barbarian Jumper, pulled up the CO menu, expecting to see 5, 18, 18, 21, like the 2007 model.

On my 08 however, the stock settings are : 10, 10, 10, 10.

Has anyone ever seen four identical CO settings on a stock FJR before? Any suggestions, other than "add seven"?

AStar · Feb 24, 2008

That sounds a little weird. I wonder if it defaulted when you completed the mod?

NightShine · Feb 24, 2008

Jagermeister said:
On my 08 however, the stock settings are : 10, 10, 10, 10.

Damn! With such luck, my suggestion is to go play the slots at the casinos!

kaitsdad · Feb 24, 2008

Jagermeister said:
I just performed the Barbarian Jumper, pulled up the CO menu, expecting to see 5, 18, 18, 21, like the 2007 model.
On my 08 however, the stock settings are : 10, 10, 10, 10.

Has anyone ever seen four identical CO settings on a stock FJR before? Any suggestions, other than "add seven"?

At WFO5, I helped about 6 or 7 guys do this mod - 06's, 05's, and 2 o4's -

and none of them matched.

I wonder if any other 08 owners out there have matching numbers?

Or maybe the setup monkey at your dealer was having some fun ..?

Jagermeister · Feb 24, 2008

kaitsdad said:
At WFO5, I helped about 6 or 7 guys do this mod - 06's, 05's, and 2 o4's -
and none of them matched.

I wonder if any other 08 owners out there have matching numbers?

Or maybe the setup monkey at your dealer was having some fun ..?

When picking up the 08 at D&H last weekend, I asked about the setup procedure they go through, including electical systems. According the Service Mgr (Nick), it's basic installation and tightening; they don't touch the ecu, factory settings, etc. I doubt they could monkey around with the CO settings, without performing the Barbarian Mod. Since I did that myself, I assume the matching CO settings were factory-set.

Did Yamaha just match the settings, for the sake of simplicity?

Has anyone else on an 08 performed the Mod yet?

shokdimn · Feb 24, 2008

kaitsdad said:
Or maybe the setup monkey at your dealer was having some fun ..?

Hey kaitsdad,This reply is not being typed in anything other than a friendly tone. As I have enjoyed reading many of your posts/contributions and don’t want this taken this the wrong way.

Realizing of course, you probably aren't intending to direct a disparaging comment toward a “specific” mechanic at a particular dealership since you have posed a question rather than made a statement.

Nevertheless, I thought I'd share a little info. Jagermeister and I bought our bikes from the same dealership—D&H. I was afforded the opportunity to see my bike taken from the crate thru the process of final assembly.

From what I was told, Nick is the only person that does the final set-up of FJR’s. IIRC, he has been there for five years. Knowing they’ve sold a bunch of ‘em. I figure he’s probably finished the assembly of a bunch of ‘em. IMO, he ain’t no "setup monkey". :no:

And about his work with my particular bike, he behaved as though he had a personal interest in making sure the bike was properly prepared for road use. IMO, simply not the kind of guy that would be

kaitsdad said:
having some fun ..?

:bike:

kaitsdad · Feb 24, 2008

shokdimn said:
kaitsdad said:

Or maybe the setup monkey at your dealer was having some fun ..?

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Hey kaitsdad,This reply is not being typed in anything other than a friendly tone. As I have enjoyed reading many of your posts/contributions and don’t want this taken this the wrong way.

Realizing of course, you probably aren't intending to direct a disparaging comment toward a “specific” mechanic at a particular dealership since you have posed a question rather than made a statement.

Nevertheless, I thought I'd share a little info. Jagermeister and I bought our bikes from the same dealership—D&H. I was afforded the opportunity to see my bike taken from the crate thru the process of final assembly.

From what I was told, Nick is the only person that does the final set-up of FJR’s. IIRC, he has been there for five years. Knowing they’ve sold a bunch of ‘em. I figure he’s probably finished the assembly of a bunch of ‘em. IMO, he ain’t no "setup monkey". :no:

And about his work with my particular bike, he behaved as though he had a personal interest in making sure the bike was properly prepared for road use. IMO, simply not the kind of guy that would be

kaitsdad said:

having some fun ..?

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:bike:

shokdimn, I certainly did not intend to disparage any specific mechanic nor dealership, and had I known that D&H was the dealership, the thought never would have crossed my mind!! You and Jagermeister did good buying from D&H, and if Yamaha did not have to build a California specific model, I would have purchased from them myself. Before I committed to the PDP program in 2005 for 2006 delivery, I considered how to buy from D&H, out of state - but there was no way I could pull it off legally.

Having those CO levels all set equally is unique, you must admit.

D&H certainly has a very strong reputation in this community, as evidenced by your response to my flip comment.

shokdimn · Feb 24, 2008

kaitsdad said:
Having those CO levels all set equally is unique, you must admit.

Admitted and agree. Of the posts I’ve read concerning those settings that’s the first time I’ve seen ‘em line up like that too.
Also, I’m kinda curious why Jager performed the BJM? How about it Jager, did you feel it was necessary or perhaps were you just looking for “refinement”?

Jagermeister · Feb 24, 2008

shokdimn said:
Admitted and agree. Of the posts I’ve read concerning those settings that’s the first time I’ve seen ‘em line up like that too.
Also, I’m kinda curious why Jager performed the BJM? How about it Jager, did you feel it was necessary or perhaps were you just looking for “refinement”?

Never had a mod called "BJM" Not on an FJR, at least

Yeah, just looking for refinement. Actually, since it averaged 42mpg (higher than the 07) on the trip home, I'm beginning to think Yamaha made some refinements of their own to the 08. It's definately smoother than the 07 was during break-in, but I haven't determined yet if that's pure engine smoothness, or partially the improved throttle.

For now, I'll just leave the CO settings at the stock "10s" until I rack up a couple thousand miles. After that, I'll play with them, to find the optimal level.

Wicked Webby · Feb 24, 2008

OK,

Just curious.. Haven't found the definite answer to this yet..

Has anyone of you Gen II Barbarian modders determined whether or not the NEW ECU changed your CO settings?? when it was changed out?? Makes me wonder because I have heard a lot of chat about the NEW ECU possibly making the bike run richer(Did Yami specifically change the Co settings for the NEW ECU's?) I had thought the stock CO settings were not stored in the ECU memory?? Thus, they wouldn't be changed by switching out the ECU...

Thanks for shedding some light,

WW

Capt. Bob · Feb 24, 2008

Wicked Webby said:
OK,
Just curious.. Haven't found the definite answer to this yet..

Has anyone of you Gen II Barbarian modders determined whether or not the NEW ECU changed your CO settings?? when it was changed out?? Makes me wonder because I have heard a lot of chat about the NEW ECU possibly making the bike run richer(Did Yami specifically change the Co settings for the NEW ECU's?) I had thought the stock CO settings were not stored in the ECU memory?? Thus, they wouldn't be changed by switching out the ECU...

Thanks for shedding some light,

WW

I had a new ECU installed on my 06. When I checked the settings, they were returned to the stock settings (5 18 18 21) that the original ECU had. I believe that is the way it came from the Factory. I watched the whole swap take place and they did not fool with any of the settings. Just a plain ol' R&R.

Wolfhound · Feb 24, 2008

They used a setup monkey at my dealer in CA. Front end was tweaked, W part of windshield was scratched, & headlight adjust knob fell off (in abt 10 miles). When some of the dealers use less than mechanics to put bikes together it can be a real pain, especially when you call ahead & drive 350 miles to pick it up. . . .

Badcat · Feb 24, 2008

FJRobert said:
They used a setup monkey at my dealer in CA. Front end was tweaked, W part of windshield was scratched, & headlight adjust knob fell off (in abt 10 miles). When some of the dealers use less than mechanics to put bikes together it can be a real pain, especially when you call ahead & drive 350 miles to pick it up. . . .

Monkey would be too high on the food chain to describe what set up my '06. Right mirror was damaged, right lower fairing scraped, steering head loose, windshield scratched when it used a paper towel to clean it......some dealers hire higher life forms than others.

kaitsdad · Feb 24, 2008

Capt. Bob said:
Wicked Webby said:

OK,
Just curious.. Haven't found the definite answer to this yet..

Has anyone of you Gen II Barbarian modders determined whether or not the NEW ECU changed your CO settings?? when it was changed out?? Makes me wonder because I have heard a lot of chat about the NEW ECU possibly making the bike run richer(Did Yami specifically change the Co settings for the NEW ECU's?) I had thought the stock CO settings were not stored in the ECU memory?? Thus, they wouldn't be changed by switching out the ECU...

Thanks for shedding some light,

WW

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I had a new ECU installed on my 06. When I checked the settings, they were returned to the stock settings (5 18 18 21) that the original ECU had. I believe that is the way it came from the Factory. I watched the whole swap take place and they did not fool with any of the settings. Just a plain ol' R&R.

I replaced the ECU on my 06 myself - the values were reset to stock - and it felt like it. I re-did the +7 on the CO, and it feels like it should.

Toynut · Feb 24, 2008

I am curious to know what effect installing a PCIII on a bike has on the settings after doing the BJM. If you are installing a smoothness map on the PCIII after installing a set of slip ons, are you defeating the purpose of the BJM? :huh:

Jagermeister · Feb 24, 2008

Toynut said:
I am curious to know what effect installing a PCIII on a bike has on the settings after doing the BJM. If you are installing a smoothness map on the PCIII after installing a set of slip ons, are you defeating the purpose of the BJM? :huh:

Yes, they are redundant. The CO settings are controlled by PCIII.

Wicked Webby · Feb 25, 2008

Thanks guys for the info.

WW

200cs · Feb 25, 2008

Please forgive me if this has been posted somewhere else.... Is this mod the same as the one for the 2004? I searched and could only find the procedure for an 04. I have an 08 and would like to do this.

Fred W · Feb 25, 2008

Jagermeister said:
Toynut said:

I am curious to know what effect installing a PCIII on a bike has on the settings after doing the BJM. If you are installing a smoothness map on the PCIII after installing a set of slip ons, are you defeating the purpose of the BJM? :huh:

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Yes, they are redundant. The CO settings are controlled by PCIII.

Ummm, from my understanding that is not entirely correct. The CO settings influence the base map in the ECU. The PCIII adds and subtracts from the base map fueling. So adding to the CO settings after the BJM should set the fueling richer at idle with or without the PCIII.

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