2012 Electrical woes

sapest · Oct 9, 2014

Bike is Canadian 2012, approx 38,000 km.

Started the bike today and both turn signal indicators on dash light up. Using the turn signal switch causes the selected signal to pulse the bright bulb filament, while the running lamp (low) filament remains lit. Hazard flasher switch result is the same, but both on bulbs. This is with engine running.

With ignition on but motor not running, turn signals work correctly. Hazard flashers work, but neutral and high beam dashboard indicators flash in concert with indicator flash.

Oh, and no headlights. . . .

Checked fuses, signal relay, and battery voltage. Checked connector on lower left side front cowl, 'just in case'. Bike is now at dealers, all plastic off with 3 mechs staring, and "wtf" looks on their faces.

Any helpful suggestions ?

Thx

- Steve

JamesK · Oct 9, 2014

Sounds like a "Spider Bite", but I thought Yamaha fixed that problem already.

Google up Ground Spider on the forum: ground spider site:fjrforum.com

Mihalis fjr · Oct 9, 2014

Under of the tank and of the T bar in the front area has some connectors there.

Have a look there if they are in good condition,pull out them and spray some contact spray on the contacts.

Perhaps the problem is there..

Queensland Ken · Oct 9, 2014

A spider bite ?, maybe the S6 or the front cowling connector #3.

How's the operation of the windscreen & horn ?

As Mihalis suggested there are 4 front cowling harnesses to check.

it's not the typical symptoms of the S6, strange ???

RossKean · Oct 9, 2014

Almost certainly a grounding problem. In addition to the spiders, there are some connectors that might be suspected. In particular, there is one near "S6" on the left side in the nose. See my thread https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php/topic/158418-itsy-bitsy-spider/ At least two people have had that one and it is unrelated to the typical grounding connectors. It can be a bit hard to spot, especially if the "burn" is on the backside of the connector. Good luck!

HotRodZilla · Oct 9, 2014

How's about we just verify the battery terminals are tight and the battery's good before getting too deep? If that's all good, I'd go after connectors next.

sapest · Oct 9, 2014

S7 is the winner.

Cooked on one side, photo to follow.

Thx for all the suggestions and information.

-Steve

rPGoatBoy · Oct 9, 2014

sapest said:
S7 is the winner. Cooked on one side, photo to follow. Thx for all the suggestions and information. -Steve

Well, so much for Yamaha having fixed the problem. Do you have any electrical mods that may have "enhanced" this failure?

Harald · Oct 9, 2014

sapest said:
S7 is the winner. Cooked on one side, photo to follow. Thx for all the suggestions and information. -Steve

Welcome to the very exclusive "S7 Spider Bite Club!" I'll be getting top secret membership information in the mail to your shortly. :yahoo:

I had the same failure on my 2007 FJR as I reported here:

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=124616&st=0

I thought the recall should have fixed spider problems, but apparently they will still rear their ugly heads on newer bikes that are supposed to be cured. I'll link to this thread on a thread I started years ago to track spider bites other than the most common S4 spider:

https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//index.php?showtopic=139511

I'd suggest making a report to the Canadian version of the NHTSA (the US Highway safety agency) so that if this develops into a bigger problem a recall can be issued to fix what can be a serious safety issue.

Queensland Ken · Oct 9, 2014

A good find !

That's the problem with Yamaha's recall, their bridging mod does not address the S6, S7 or cowling connector #3 high resistance faults.

SSHANK42 · Oct 9, 2014

My 09 same symptoms. My bite was S8, I assume. It was under pass. side headlight. Fixed mine last Saturday. And it does have the recall. No mods.

sapest · Oct 9, 2014

Photo:

again my thx to those that responded to my request for assistance.

-Steve

sapest · Oct 9, 2014

Reply to rPGoatBoy -

Hyperlites as extra brake lights only. GPS and horn, on their own circuits. Plug for heated gear (not used at the time of failure, but soon!)

-Steve

Mihalis fjr · Oct 10, 2014

Glad that you found where the problem was.

I wonder if the Gen1 has these ground spiders somewhere..

I have never read something about..

RadioHowie · Oct 10, 2014

Mihalis fjr said:
Glad that you found where the problem was.I wonder if the Gen1 has these ground spiders somewhere..

I have never read something about..

Mihalis, NO "shared" grounds configured like the Gen IIs on the Gen Is. We're safe.

YummYam · Oct 10, 2014

sapest said:
Photo:

again my thx to those that responded to my request for assistance.

-Steve

Looks just like S6 on my bike. Going to cut it off and solder also, the little *astard!

dcarver · Oct 10, 2014

That spider sure does get around...

Mihalis fjr · Oct 10, 2014

RadioHowie said:
Mihalis fjr said:

Glad that you found where the problem was.I wonder if the Gen1 has these ground spiders somewhere..

I have never read something about..

Click to expand...

Mihalis, NO "shared" grounds configured like the Gen IIs on the Gen Is. We're safe.

Really glad!

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