New Video of J.Burleigh's commute home post-freeway collapse

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You Cali guys are nuts! All this "riding the stripes" stuff has to result in LOTS more accidents. God help you if some stopped motorist opens their door to spit or something!
I've only ever ridden a motorcycle in California, so forgive me if this is a stupid question.... In states where there's no legal lane sharing, does that mean motorcycle riders sit in line behind cars and just inch along like the cars? How can anyone stand that? What fun is it riding a motorcycle (if you can't always go to the front of the line)?!

 
You Cali guys are nuts! All this "riding the stripes" stuff has to result in LOTS more accidents. God help you if some stopped motorist opens their door to spit or something!
I've only ever ridden a motorcycle in California, so forgive me if this is a stupid question.... In states where there's no legal lane sharing, does that mean motorcycle riders sit in line behind cars and just inch along like the cars? How can anyone stand that? What fun is it riding a motorcycle (if you can't always go to the front of the line)?!
Yes, thats what it means.

Ca. is the only state that allows lane sharing.

Great to be in ca. ;)

 
Great video! It's nice to see the rider's perspective, I've never riden in Cali only driven the cage down and watched you guys go by.

I'm moving from Western WA to Redding later this summer. I'm an experienced rider but never done any splitting. Do you think the California Experienced Rider Course a good idea to ramp me up to Cali riding? I know Redding doesn't have the traffic like the Bay area, but what do you guys recommend?

 
Great video! It's nice to see the rider's perspective, I've never riden in Cali only driven the cage down and watched you guys go by. I'm moving from Western WA to Redding later this summer. I'm an experienced rider but never done any splitting. Do you think the California Experienced Rider Course a good idea to ramp me up to Cali riding? I know Redding doesn't have the traffic like the Bay area, but what do you guys recommend?
Thank you. In my experience, the basic and experienced rider classes do not touch on this, at least not on the range. I think most riders new to it kinda ease into it, slowly gaining confidence. You no doubt have slow-speed skills, which along with good traffic-reading skills is all that is required, I think.

Here's some of the stuff I think I've figured out about it, stuff that I do and think about anyway:

  • Two fingers on the front brake; right foot often suspended over the rear brake. Not much swerving room, so your best emergency maneuver is usually a straight, rapid stop.
  • Look straight ahead, opening up your vision to take in a wide arc of what's going on immediately ahead (at slow speed what's going on way ahead loses importance).
  • If one lane of traffic stops and the next one is moving pretty good, track next to a car in the faster lane, or better yet get in the faster lane; cars will jump over in those cases.
  • Put your brights on when you go up the middle.
  • Get comfortable going over lane-marker dots (BTW, they're very slick in the rain).
  • When you go to the front of a light, make sure your rear tire is not on a lane-marker dot or slick paint (you need grip in case of rapid acceleration).
  • Lane sharing and going up between cars on the freeway at freeway speeds or moving in an out of cars on the freeway when at speed are not the same thing.
  • "If a car can do it, it ain't a motorcycle advantage; it's breaking the law." JB's Principle of Motorcycle Advantage. This applies, for example, to going up the right-hand bicycle or breakdown lane, over the white fogline.
  • When lane sharing, if a car next to you suddenly guns it to "beat you," relax, don't throttle the goose. He ain't going nowhere, and big throttle when lane sharing can get you into trouble fast.
  • Always slow when next to convertibles with cute women, and give them the rolling-fingers wave.
  • Stay the f**k away from semi-trucks, and any big truck. If you must pass them, do so when they are stopped and there is two-bike widths between them and the car in the other lane.
  • As you're approaching the slow and stopped traffic on the freeway and getting ready to go up the middle, wait till the traffic settles and everyone's through flying into different lanes they think are moving faster. To the point where you're doing a little stop and go before going up the middle.
  • Avoid going around to the right or left into the break-down lane; you may get caught and not able to get back in between tight cars. Also, see JB Principle.
  • Do less lane sharing on weekends when traffic is moving pretty well. I worry that on weekends it seems more obnoxious to drivers.
BTW, a lot of riders will make the statement about not sharing if the traffic is moving faster than X mph, and never go more than Y mph faster than the cars, etc. I don't know what to do with those numbers. I don't spend time doing speedometer calculations when I'm trying not to get hit. I rely more on intuition and experience to know what feels safe.
Welcome to California! Hope to get together soon! We got a local guy moving up to Redding soon (what in the heck was his handle?).

Jb

 
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Great video! It's nice to see the rider's perspective, I've never riden in Cali only driven the cage down and watched you guys go by. I'm moving from Western WA to Redding later this summer. I'm an experienced rider but never done any splitting. Do you think the California Experienced Rider Course a good idea to ramp me up to Cali riding? I know Redding doesn't have the traffic like the Bay area, but what do you guys recommend?
Thank you. In my experience, the basic and experienced rider classes do not touch on this, at least not on the range. I think most riders new to it kinda ease into it, slowly gaining confidence. You no doubt have slow-speed skills, which along with good traffic-reading skills is all that is required, I think.

Here's some of the stuff I think I've figured out about it, stuff that I do and think about anyway:

  • Two fingers on the front brake; right foot often suspended over the rear brake. Not much swerving room, so your best emergency maneuver is usually a straight, rapid stop.
  • Look straight ahead, opening up your vision to take in a wide arc of what's going on immediately ahead (at slow speed what's going on way ahead loses importance).
  • If one lane of traffic stops and the next one is moving pretty good, track next to a car in the faster lane, or better yet get in the faster lane; cars will jump over in those cases.
  • Put your brights on when you go up the middle.
  • Get comfortable going over lane-marker dots (BTW, they're very slick in the rain).
  • When you go to the front of a light, make sure your rear tire is not on a lane-marker dot or slick paint (you need grip in case of rapid acceleration).
  • Lane sharing and going up between cars on the freeway at freeway speeds or moving in an out of cars on the freeway when at speed are not the same thing.
  • "If a car can do it, it ain't a motorcycle advantage; it's breaking the law." JB's Principle of Motorcycle Advantage. This applies, for example, to going up the right-hand bicycle or breakdown lane, over the white fogline.
  • When lane sharing, if a car next to you suddenly guns it to "beat you," relax, don't throttle the goose. He ain't going nowhere, and big throttle when lane sharing can get you into trouble fast.
  • Always slow when next to convertibles with cute women, and give them the rolling-fingers wave.
  • Stay the f**k away from semi-trucks, and any big truck. If you must pass them, do so when they are stopped and there is two-bike widths between them and the car in the other lane.
  • As you're approaching the slow and stopped traffic on the freeway and getting ready to go up the middle, wait till the traffic settles and everyone's through flying into different lanes they think are moving faster. To the point where you're doing a little stop and go before going up the middle.
  • Avoid going around to the right or left into the break-down lane; you may get caught and not able to get back in between tight cars. Also, see JB Principle.
  • Do less lane sharing on weekends when traffic is moving pretty well. I worry that on weekends it seems more obnoxious to drivers.
BTW, a lot of riders will make the statement about not sharing if the traffic is moving faster than X mph, and never go more than Y mph faster than the cars, etc. I don't know what to do with those numbers. I don't spend time doing speedometer calculations when I'm trying not to get hit. I rely more on intuition and experience to know what feels safe.
Welcome to California! Hope to get together soon! We got a local guy moving up to Redding soon (what in the heck was his handle?).

Jb
Jb,

Thanks for the great advice! It will be great to put some of these to practice. That is more info on lane sharing or splitting than I found on the state's website. I know I'm new around here, but hey mods is this the kind of stuff we should keep?

I think I get the difference between lane sharing and splitting at freeway speeds, but can you elaborate a little more on "If a car can do it...Jb's priniciple advantage" and what you mean?

Can't wait to hook up with some of you Northern Cal guys later this summer for a ride.

Thanks again Jb!

 
Jb,...can you elaborate a little more on "If a car can do it...Jb's priniciple advantage" and what you mean?
Happy to elaborate, jbeebe31:

JB's Principle of Motorcycle Advantage states that, "If a car can do it, it isn't a motorcycle advantage. It's breaking the law." The principle evolved from having to make decisions about how to get ahead in situations where there is one lane in each direction separated by a double-yellow on the left, and with a paved shoulder with a white "fog line" delineating it to the right. Having no center lane to share, my options then are to go up the right-hand shoulder to the right of the fog line, or scoot up on the other side of the double-yellow, tucking in when a car came.

Well, I realized a car could also cut up the right-hand shoulder. So it seemed to me that that wouldn't be a cool thing to do--I wouldn't look like a motorcyclist acting responsibly, but like a prick who thinks the rules don't apply to him (i.e., it would be just breaking the law). With regard to going over the dbl-ylw, well, a car couldn't tuck back in, so that wouldn't necessarily violate the principle, but that has safety and legality implications that make it untenable.

From that specific example, I generalized the situation to a principle. :graduated:

Back to the one lane in each direction scenario: I've learned now to avoid those in heavy traffic, because you lose your advantage. But when I can't avoid them, and applying Burleigh's Principle, my best advantage lies in sharing the right-hand side of the lane, without going over the fog line (much). :rolleyes:

(BTW, if the paved shoulder on the right, separated by a fog line, is too narrow for a car to go up, well, the principle tells me what to do.... This is usually only an issue when leaving town along the single road after the Big Game or some such thing.)

Can't wait to hook up with some of you Northern Cal guys later this summer for a ride.Thanks again Jb!
Me too!

Jb

 
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You Cali guys are nuts! All this "riding the stripes" stuff has to result in LOTS more accidents. God help you if some stopped motorist opens their door to spit or something!
I've only ever ridden a motorcycle in California, so forgive me if this is a stupid question.... In states where there's no legal lane sharing, does that mean motorcycle riders sit in line behind cars and just inch along like the cars? How can anyone stand that? What fun is it riding a motorcycle (if you can't always go to the front of the line)?!

You should see the size of my left arm after 1 1/2 hrs in traffic! You'd swear I just got out of a **** store after 12 hrs! :dribble: It has only happened twice, got stuck on I294 w/ no exits for about 6-8 miles, accident one time and just off timing for other. I avoid riding during certain times and certain routes altogether.

Out here between 0700 and 1100 and again at 1400 to 1830/1900 is when locals are clogged w/ rush "hour" traffic, I90/94 is avoided after 0630 and before 2200, I294 is better w/ n-bound traffic snarls in morning until 1000/1030 and s/bound between 1500 and 1900. I290 and I55 are not convenient for me but they're as wacky as 90/94 during rush hour!

 
Up here in NYC splitting is illegal but most people do it anyway. I ride a cruiser, no FJR yet, and being on a hill in bumper to bumper traffic on a humis 100degree day really sux. So I just roll on through where I can since most cagers let you in but some trucks and cabbies are pricks and try to block you off.

 
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