Stephen
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Seems I double posted somehow??? Pardon me. As you were.
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and they're clogging a whole freeway, popping wheelies, more concerned about getting a YouTube video than riding. Not a good impression.
Second hit is "Full Tilt Riders, guaranteeing a bad name for motorcyclists everywhere...", but then some mixed reviews after they get to know one of them.
Third hit involves bikinis...so I'm pretty much high-centered and can't type coherently anymore. Amazing how ****s and butts just turns me to horny jello.
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I'm back. I guess it doesn't interest me very much to demonstrate stunting ability since I like to ride by myself mostly anyway and tire easily of brand bashing....so you should go check 'em out and report back. Not many Harleys from what I can see.
and they're clogging a whole freeway, popping wheelies, more concerned about getting a YouTube video than riding. Not a good impression.
Second hit is "Full Tilt Riders, guaranteeing a bad name for motorcyclists everywhere...", but then some mixed reviews after they get to know one of them.
Third hit involves bikinis...so I'm pretty much high-centered and can't type coherently anymore. Amazing how ****s and butts just turns me to horny jello.
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I'm back. I guess it doesn't interest me very much to demonstrate stunting ability since I like to ride by myself mostly anyway and tire easily of brand bashing....so you should go check 'em out and report back. Not many Harleys from what I can see.
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Bearly Flying
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Geez.. Iggy if that's all it takes to get you going........We might have to take up a sympathy collection
and get you some High Class Hooker's ( that's pretty skanky)
and get you some High Class Hooker's ( that's pretty skanky)
eeksnake
Not dead, just smell that way
Here's a little more help... Full Tilt Riders (FTR).
I don't recall ever meeting a FTR member on the road, at least, not one wearing a patch. With that said, I can't give you a well-founded opinion.
Judging them by the video, I'd say they don't follow their own rules for group riding:
- General rules They have a rule about stunting in the middle of the pack.
- Formations I guess they are using the "third" formation?
I stopped looking at their site when I checked out their "How to be a Safe Rider" page. Linky
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*Hint, the information was taken from "Road and Trafic Authority NSW, Australia. Where they ride on the LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD." :blink:
I don't recall ever meeting a FTR member on the road, at least, not one wearing a patch. With that said, I can't give you a well-founded opinion.
Judging them by the video, I'd say they don't follow their own rules for group riding:
- General rules They have a rule about stunting in the middle of the pack.
- Formations I guess they are using the "third" formation?
I stopped looking at their site when I checked out their "How to be a Safe Rider" page. Linky
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*Hint, the information was taken from "Road and Trafic Authority NSW, Australia. Where they ride on the LEFT SIDE OF THE ROAD." :blink:
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Hello all, thanks for asking about Full Tilt Riders. I appreciate the previous attemps to supply information, but I must tell you that the information so far does not provide a complete picture. Indeed, it is very one-sided.....almost as if search efforts targeted subjects, events, or pictures that would not generate great reviews. So in the interest of fairness, please allow me to briefly tell you a little about FTR.
MEMBERS
We have existed for 5 years and are members consist of professionals and family people, many of which are military and law enforcement. Most of our members can ill afford a bad reputation or getting into trouble. All of our chapters are well respected in their communities.
SAFETY
Our mission statement speaks for itself. We do emphasize safety, but we are not perfect. I am sure we break speed limits from time to time, and if you look hard enough, you probably will catch a member popping a 12" wheelie, dragging a knee on the back road twisties, or doing a little burnout in a parking lot. Like many FJR riders, we like to have a little fun without blatant disregard for laws and safety. I guess we cross that gray line from time to time. If any of our riders, or those who ride with us get out of line, our road captains, sgt at arms or other officers deal with them immediately and have been known to confiscate keys.
We post helpful safety information for unexperienced riders. that info comes from wherever we can find it. With regard to the gentleman who seems offended by our Australian source for safety information, I apologize. I would be happy to replace this info with info from a Hendersen, NV source or any other US source (if patriotism is the problem). Just provide a link to the info for me. FTR Safety
VIDEO
In regard to the video that seemed to get some attention: Basically our large group purposely broke formation in order to consume all the lanes of the hwy. Technically, this isn't illegal, is it. We road in this manner (at or below speed limit) across the 1-2 mile bridge and then re-formed in a staggered formation. There were no wheelies, stoppies, races, or any other stunting on this major hwy. LATER in the vieo, you do see a couple of 1 foot wheelies that were stagged at the request of the camera man. These took place on empty side roads. And there you have it.
BIKINI
In regard to the bikini pictures.....yes, once a year, one of our 9 chapters has a big bikini bike wash. A few hundred people show up every year, but not all guys. There is a hard body show for the ladies as part of the event. There is also a bike show. It gets a little wild by the end and then everybody goes home. People who do not like this sort of thing do not come, and that includes some of our own members. It is what it is. But it is just one event in one chapter. Those who reported on that event must have missed all the information on our community service efforts which ALL CHAPTERS CONDUCT ALL YEAR LONG.
COMMUNITY SERVICE
--We organized a memorial ride and fund raiser for a non member who died in a MC accident. He was an independent contractor without insurance and had 6 young kids.
--We adopt needy families in Portland, Seattle, Spokane, and Waynesville for Thanksgiving and Christmas providing food and presents
--We adopt Hwys in several cities and come out to pick up trash periodically
--We help the Portland Police Department Sunshine Division deliver food baskets to over 40 needy families
--We put a team in for the Race for the Cure
--We built and ran a FREE Haunted House for kids
--We are currently conducting a clothing drive for Our Place Ministries in Spokane
--We collect clothing for and spend time working with the Maryhill Home for Boys
--We participate in numerous community festivals and parades
--ETC
FTR Community Service
RIDING VS PARTYING
Our club is about riding 1st. We love to ride and plan numerous road trips every season. Some of our members also do track days and others race. We also love getting together as a group and socializing. Several chapters host Two Wheel Tuesdays or Two Wheel Thursdays which are opportunities for the entire riding community to get together and talk bikes. We also throw pretty good parties, many of which are fund raisers for our community service activities.
I hope this provides a more complete picture of our organization. We are an urban club and do urban things, but we are very much into safety and doing things for the community. Dig around our website and yo will get a feel for what we are about. FTR
Thank you all for your time.
MEMBERS
We have existed for 5 years and are members consist of professionals and family people, many of which are military and law enforcement. Most of our members can ill afford a bad reputation or getting into trouble. All of our chapters are well respected in their communities.
SAFETY
Our mission statement speaks for itself. We do emphasize safety, but we are not perfect. I am sure we break speed limits from time to time, and if you look hard enough, you probably will catch a member popping a 12" wheelie, dragging a knee on the back road twisties, or doing a little burnout in a parking lot. Like many FJR riders, we like to have a little fun without blatant disregard for laws and safety. I guess we cross that gray line from time to time. If any of our riders, or those who ride with us get out of line, our road captains, sgt at arms or other officers deal with them immediately and have been known to confiscate keys.
We post helpful safety information for unexperienced riders. that info comes from wherever we can find it. With regard to the gentleman who seems offended by our Australian source for safety information, I apologize. I would be happy to replace this info with info from a Hendersen, NV source or any other US source (if patriotism is the problem). Just provide a link to the info for me. FTR Safety
VIDEO
In regard to the video that seemed to get some attention: Basically our large group purposely broke formation in order to consume all the lanes of the hwy. Technically, this isn't illegal, is it. We road in this manner (at or below speed limit) across the 1-2 mile bridge and then re-formed in a staggered formation. There were no wheelies, stoppies, races, or any other stunting on this major hwy. LATER in the vieo, you do see a couple of 1 foot wheelies that were stagged at the request of the camera man. These took place on empty side roads. And there you have it.
BIKINI
In regard to the bikini pictures.....yes, once a year, one of our 9 chapters has a big bikini bike wash. A few hundred people show up every year, but not all guys. There is a hard body show for the ladies as part of the event. There is also a bike show. It gets a little wild by the end and then everybody goes home. People who do not like this sort of thing do not come, and that includes some of our own members. It is what it is. But it is just one event in one chapter. Those who reported on that event must have missed all the information on our community service efforts which ALL CHAPTERS CONDUCT ALL YEAR LONG.
COMMUNITY SERVICE
--We organized a memorial ride and fund raiser for a non member who died in a MC accident. He was an independent contractor without insurance and had 6 young kids.
--We adopt needy families in Portland, Seattle, Spokane, and Waynesville for Thanksgiving and Christmas providing food and presents
--We adopt Hwys in several cities and come out to pick up trash periodically
--We help the Portland Police Department Sunshine Division deliver food baskets to over 40 needy families
--We put a team in for the Race for the Cure
--We built and ran a FREE Haunted House for kids
--We are currently conducting a clothing drive for Our Place Ministries in Spokane
--We collect clothing for and spend time working with the Maryhill Home for Boys
--We participate in numerous community festivals and parades
--ETC
FTR Community Service
RIDING VS PARTYING
Our club is about riding 1st. We love to ride and plan numerous road trips every season. Some of our members also do track days and others race. We also love getting together as a group and socializing. Several chapters host Two Wheel Tuesdays or Two Wheel Thursdays which are opportunities for the entire riding community to get together and talk bikes. We also throw pretty good parties, many of which are fund raisers for our community service activities.
I hope this provides a more complete picture of our organization. We are an urban club and do urban things, but we are very much into safety and doing things for the community. Dig around our website and yo will get a feel for what we are about. FTR
Thank you all for your time.
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Was this picture taken at one of the previous WFO's? Are they pillions?Geez.. Iggy if that's all it takes to get you going........We might have to take up a sympathy collection
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Actually, it is illegal in most states. The rule is generally, "Slower traffic shall keep right." and that's not trumped by whatever speed somebody is going. If your left-most members weren't passing other traffic they were in violation of the law. If they were holding up traffic they were in violation of the law. .....shame on them.
Your group seems to have a large number of very public instances where laws are being broken and video taped....certainly more than just the casual transgression. Maybe I shouldn't be the one to cast stones because lord knows I do stuff out in the sticks, but I gotta say that doing this stuff in populated urban centers is a dangerous lightning rod that will attract negative public attention against all motorcyclists...not just your group.
As for the other points about community service and other things....good for you. Really. That's good stuff.
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Once again, no where on the FTR website is there an emphasis on "demonstrating stunting ability". In fact, it would be difficult to find a picture of a simple wheelie or our website. In our 8 min video, you will find 2-3 very short wheelies which consume about 10 seconds of the 8 minute video. Like I said, FTR isn't perfect, but se certainly CANNOT be defined or described using the word stunting.I'm back. I guess it doesn't interest me very much to demonstrate stunting ability since I like to ride by myself mostly anyway and tire easily of brand bashing....so you should go check 'em out and report back. Not many Harleys from what I can see.
Secondly, FTR cannot be described using terms like brand bashing. I am sure this is not what this guy meant, but that is what he said. Saying that would be equivalent to saying that members of an FJR forum are brand bashers simply because they share the love of a particular bike. I know this is not true for this foorum, and it is not true for FTR. Just to clarify the situation, we are primarily a sport bike club because we are into the look, feel, speed, and handling ability of sportbikes. But we do not do any brand bashing. Several members including the former president of one chapter do have Harley's.
You can see as many Harleys on our video as wheelies.....not many of either for whatever its worth.
I was referring to the original post of the thread....which the person has seemed to edited and removed :angry: some time in the past...not FTR. I dislike brand bashing.Once again, no where on the FTR website is there an emphasis on "demonstrating stunting ability". In fact, it would be difficult to find a picture of a simple wheelie or our website. In our 8 min video, you will find 2-3 very short wheelies which consume about 10 seconds of the 8 minute video. Like I said, FTR isn't perfect, but se certainly CANNOT be defined or described using the word stunting.I'm back. I guess it doesn't interest me very much to demonstrate stunting ability since I like to ride by myself mostly anyway and tire easily of brand bashing....so you should go check 'em out and report back. Not many Harleys from what I can see.
Secondly, FTR cannot be described using terms like brand bashing. I am sure this is not what this guy meant, but that is what he said. Saying that would be equivalent to saying that members of an FJR forum are brand bashers simply because they share the love of a particular bike. I know this is not true for this foorum, and it is not true for FTR. Just to clarify the situation, we are primarily a sport bike club because we are into the look, feel, speed, and handling ability of sportbikes. But we do not do any brand bashing. Several members including the former president of one chapter do have Harley's.
You can see as many Harleys on our video as wheelies.....not many of either for whatever its worth.
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jwilly
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Interesting site.
In the rules of the road section:
In the rules of the road section:
In the gallery section: (President and Founder of FTR)
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Friday's just a couple days away.......can't we wait?
Well I won't argue whether that would technically be illegal or not. Suffice to say that the entire event took place on a 1-2 mile bridge without much traffic to begin with. There were zero dangerous stunts or behavior. If riding in the passing lane for 1-2 miles is what we are guilty of, then you have proved your point. Most people reading this will break more laws driving home tonight.
As an admin of a site like this, you must know how powerful words can be....how easily people misinterpret what was meant, but you seem to use words fairly causually without regard to full accuracy or the perceptions they might cause. For example....."brand bashing". How does the admin of a specific model bike forum jump to such a conclusion about a group that allows all brands?
Now you say "Your group seems to have a large number of very public instances where laws are being broken and video taped." If I may examine this statement: LARGE NUMBER OF PUBLIC INSTANCES WHERE LAWS ARE BEING BROKEN? There is 5 years worth of material on our website and we have over 200 members. But all that can be produced is a SINGLE video with riders blocking the passing lane for 40 seconds and a couple extremely weak and short wheelies (off hwy). Yet you use the words LARGE NUMBER OF INSTANCES. What are you referring to besides this one video? There are no pictures, descriptions or other videos to support this characterization.
Even if we accept that minor laws were broken in that video, please do not infer that law breaking is something that we frequently do and video tape. After 5 years and 200 members, there is one video without much going on, and that is all there is. If I were prone to making assumptions, I might think there is a little bashing and exaggeration going on here. If you have more evidence of law breaking, please do provide a link to it. In the meantime, I would not be surprised to find a picture of someone popping a wheelie on an FJR somewhere around here.
TejasFJR
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But for some of us, it already feels like Friday.
ionbeam
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Easy there jwilly, notice the gloves, the shoe protector (for the shifter), his helmet IS protecting his right side mirror, but most importantly -- his shirt comes down over the waist band of his pants :clapping:Interesting site.
In the rules of the road section:
In the gallery section: (President and Founder of FTR)
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TheAxeman
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In the absence of other information, that would be a very valid point. But 1st of all, we are not perfect. We all could be more safe. but secondly, the picture you provided is from one of our community parades. The cap he is wearing captures sweat that is generated from the HELMET which he had just removed. It was about 95 degrees and we were moving at about a 2 mph clip between the stop and go pace. there police all over the place and the chief gave us permission to remove our helmets while riding in the parade. It is pretty common practice in parades.Interesting site.
In the rules of the road section:
In the gallery section: (President and Founder of FTR)
As i said, we are no where near perfect. I grew up in chicago where we did not have a helmet law at all. I know better now, but on really hot days, I just might slip and wear a half shell. Or I might not wear my boots. If you look for negative things, I am sure you will find something.
My question is why are people searching and digging for negative things in the first place? At least we have a Rules of the Road safety section. Isn't that a good thing? What other club sites promote safety like this?
Where did you come from? Is it, by chance, because this forum seems to come up high on Google when one searches on "full tilt riders"? If so, maybe you need to go talk to Google because we have no power over their ranking system. Maybe your first move becoming a member of this board should have been to go talk to an admin to begin with instead of freaking out.
You wanna play the parsing, context, "prove-it" game....feel free, but it doesn't interest me that much.
It's your group man. I merily pointed out what I found when I did a Google search. You seem to be targeting the wrong issue. It seems like this unfortunate video that's giving you or your group fits. Heading off to forums and attacking admins probably isn't the best way to help your image. Also, this whole exchange is probably just going to bump things up more in Google and exacerbate things.
I'm just sayin.....
You wanna play the parsing, context, "prove-it" game....feel free, but it doesn't interest me that much.
Already explained. If you bother to do some more reading you'll find I'm the guy on this forum that hates it when people bash specific bike models...especially Harleys.
It's your group man. I merily pointed out what I found when I did a Google search. You seem to be targeting the wrong issue. It seems like this unfortunate video that's giving you or your group fits. Heading off to forums and attacking admins probably isn't the best way to help your image. Also, this whole exchange is probably just going to bump things up more in Google and exacerbate things.
I'm just sayin.....
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:yahoo: Wow! There sure seems to be a large number of instances in which you FJR Riders are publicly breaking laws and photographing it. :clapping:
I couldn't resist. But I am just joking. If you look for something negative, you will almost always find it, even if you have to ignore all the positive stuff in order to find it.
Its all good man. I apologize if I brought any drama to your forum. If some info was erased from the original post, I have no idea why someone was asking about FTR. But i did see that people only reported on some negative stereotype stuff. All who do the google thang will get to our site sooner rather than later and will see what we are all about. We do good things and preach safety. Nope we are not perfect. We could do more and be more safe, but we make an attempt. And as you said.....if we all bother to do more reading before speaking, we all would learn more and not make incorrect assumptions about each other. Perhaps our messages are similar when you really look at it.
Peace to you all. The FJR is a pretty cool bike. If I were rich, one would be in the stable for sure.
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