Anyone spoon a B tire on themselves? Wondering if its anymore difficult with the potentially stiffer sidewall.
Pilot Road 2 Rear 180/55ZR-17 B FJR Specific
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blufjr
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I don't know what these guys getting 14K on a rear tire are drinking, but I don't.
My last regular PR2 went 6,959 miles and had four holes in it, two plugged. This was winter riding in the PNW, which means you are mostly on the center of the tire. Well, except for that little northern CA ride I did,( Perfect Fall Ride) oh, and that ride to the UpChuck event. I guess most of those miles were hot and heavy. Two thumbs up for the PR2. But don't expect 14K.
Toecutter
What would DoG do?
I only pulled the tires because of a planned 1500 mile trip this weekend with the wife and don't want to risk needing a tire on the road.
I can't speak to the difference in compounds between regular PR's and the CT ones. I ran a regular PR once on my Blackbird and don't think I got this much mileage out of it, but then again the Blackbird is a little sportier :devil: . What did impress me with the PR2 was that even though it did flat spot in the center (as expected with most miles being commuting on interstate), the tire didn't have as wide of a flat spot as I've experienced in the past with regular tires. YMMV, but it works for me.
MartyA
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In their "2009 Motorcycle & Scooter Tires" fitment guide this is what it says under the "Sport Touring / 2-Compound Pilot® Road 2" (only this size mentioned)
*180/55 ZR 17 rear also available in a ‘B’ version, specifically designed for loaded sport touring or riding two-up.
:dntknw:
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Zorlac
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I'm thinking if my pillion weighs in at under 800, my standard PR2 is OK.
Why pay more if the B tire isn't rated for more than the standard PR2?
Why pay more if the B tire isn't rated for more than the standard PR2?
gregory
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It will depend on your useage, but here are mine at 10K (per odometer, which means probably closer to 9-9.5K) I am a medium to average rider and probably don't push past 50% -70% of what the bike can do.
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03HiYoSilver
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Here is what my PR2's look like and I am not easy on tires;
Front with 10k Miles:
Rears w/ 7k Miles and States B (not sure if this is the correct one) Max Load 805 lbs (Appears to be the 2 Ply Sidewall version):
Front with 10k Miles:
Rears w/ 7k Miles and States B (not sure if this is the correct one) Max Load 805 lbs (Appears to be the 2 Ply Sidewall version):
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meosborn
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03HiYoSilver
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I think this may clear things up:
Per Dennis Kirk Website one Pilot Road2 Rear type has 2 Plies Sidewall while the other one has 3 Plies Sidewall and Both have a Load Rating of "B" 805 lbs which does not make sense.
2 Ply Version: $166.99
https://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/tire/pro...tId=&mmyId=
3 Ply Version: $185.99
https://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/tire/pro...tId=&mmyId=
Other than Price and number of Plies, it is hard to distinguish the 2 Rear Models.
Per Dennis Kirk Website one Pilot Road2 Rear type has 2 Plies Sidewall while the other one has 3 Plies Sidewall and Both have a Load Rating of "B" 805 lbs which does not make sense.
2 Ply Version: $166.99
https://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/tire/pro...tId=&mmyId=
3 Ply Version: $185.99
https://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/tire/pro...tId=&mmyId=
Other than Price and number of Plies, it is hard to distinguish the 2 Rear Models.
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Toecutter
What would DoG do?
I just picked up one ( B) local, after a minor local forum price war, for $190.00 out the door. Now to find out just how far the original can go. 11K and counting....
Wow, the pics of the PR2 front at 10K look better than the last Storm I had on the front at 5K miles.
03HiYoSilver
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Here is a Picture of the Regular Rear PR2 Sidewall Info:
I believe the more Expensive/Stiffer Sidewall version would have a "3" and not a "2" where the Arrow is Pointing.
I believe the more Expensive/Stiffer Sidewall version would have a "3" and not a "2" where the Arrow is Pointing.
DCH
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Just got a new PR 2-B , so I went out to the garage to look. The tread ; 3 polyamide, 1 aramid. Sidewall; 3 polyamide.
Whatever that means.
Whatever that means.
03HiYoSilver
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DCH,
This means you have the More Expensive Type PR2 with Stiffer Sidewalls.
This means you have the More Expensive Type PR2 with Stiffer Sidewalls.
DCH
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And one more ply of polymide in the tread.............whatever that is...................
We'll see if any of this translates into any higher mileage than the the last set of dual compound tires ( Dunlop Roadsmarts) that I got a whopping 3800 mi. out of before they were toast.
We'll see if any of this translates into any higher mileage than the the last set of dual compound tires ( Dunlop Roadsmarts) that I got a whopping 3800 mi. out of before they were toast.
weekend rider
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Alex, I will take tires for 50 and go with a "C" and Z rating
MartyA
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I ride 2-up all the time so this is a little interesting to me.
The Gen II is rated 1109 max GVW - 642 bike and 467 load. Assuming the rear is sharing 60% of the load that is around 660# so the 805 load rating on the PR2 and PR2"B" makes it 'legal' for the FJR. I guess the "B" gives a little more for a little more.
Probably doesn't affect the tread life much, though. That is up to the driver and the pavement.
The Gen II is rated 1109 max GVW - 642 bike and 467 load. Assuming the rear is sharing 60% of the load that is around 660# so the 805 load rating on the PR2 and PR2"B" makes it 'legal' for the FJR. I guess the "B" gives a little more for a little more.
Probably doesn't affect the tread life much, though. That is up to the driver and the pavement.
Last year I rode a new set of PR2s for a single 7000 mile tour, and then removed the rear because it had a nail. I had it patched and remounted last month while putting on a new front PR2, because it has plenty of tread left. I'm going from Oklahoma to Halifax, NS on that sucker in September. If it makes the trip successfully, I will have 12,000 miles on it by the time I get to EOM. I'll let you know . . . . and I drink whatever you're buying!
jpcfjr
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Thanks for clearing up the "B" mystery...sort of. I am getting ready to buy a new tire for the rear (already have the PR2 on the front) to replace the OEM Bridgestone. I just cleared 10,000 miles so the 021 rear has not been a bad tire. The front was atrocious and died at just over 5,000 with serious cupping...but I digress.
BMW friend recommended the B but with my weight (170) and no 2 up riding, I can't see ever exceeding the load rating. However, that does not seem to be the issue between regular and B. So, extra ply in tread and extra ply in sidewall...to what end? Does anybody have a real explanation as to why I would or would not want the extra plies? If the load rating is the same, what's the dilly yo?
From their website:
180/55 ZR 17 rear also available in a 'B' version, specifically designed for loaded sport touring or riding two-up.
BMW friend recommended the B but with my weight (170) and no 2 up riding, I can't see ever exceeding the load rating. However, that does not seem to be the issue between regular and B. So, extra ply in tread and extra ply in sidewall...to what end? Does anybody have a real explanation as to why I would or would not want the extra plies? If the load rating is the same, what's the dilly yo?
From their website:
180/55 ZR 17 rear also available in a 'B' version, specifically designed for loaded sport touring or riding two-up.
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