Leo Vince SBK Aluminum

RossKean said:

I just bought a 2007 FJR and it came with the Leo Vince exhaust. Since I knew nothing about these, I did a little reading on their site. I discovered a section on repacking the mufflers < https://www.leovinceusa.com/main/support/SBK-REFIT.pdf > . They suggest that a service interval for repacking of ~20,000 miles, depending on the bike, might be expected. Just wondering what anyone's experience might be? Has anyone done a repack? How long before it was needed? Did you buy the packing and replacement rivets from Leo Vince or elsewhere? Any problems drilling out or replacing the rivets? Is it a big pain-in-the-*** to do (i.e. how much time)? I have never had a muffler system that needed repacking (always had stock all-metal exhaust).
I like the sound but if it is a major job to repack on at least an annual basis, I might find myself back to the stock pipes. Unfortunately, that will likely mean I need to remap the PC III.

Thanks

Ross,

If I remember correctly the Leo's are packed with steel packing material. It last's much longer than fiberglass packing. You probably don't need to do it yet. I have a set on my 2007 and they sound the same as new.

Ross

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RenoJohn said:

I can't speak specifically to the Leo Vince ..but generically speaking:
The 20K interval is about average, many people adhere to it, many people do not, it's really your own determination, mostly influenced by the sound, -the exhaust will get louder.

You may very well need to do the rivets if that is the LV design, but no doubt you've got local sources that can easily accommodate that.

No doubt LV will gladly supply you the packing material, but surely it is just fiberglass available locally or other sources. If you have a muffler shop, you might talk to the guys there and see if you have comfort level with them doing it. I'd take your handy instructions that you posted so that they can see the style of fiberglass that LV supplies, as well as get an idea of how LV expects it to be applied. Many will knock it out cheaply and easily in no time. Talk to a couple if you don't feel comfortable

As far as the PCIII, ...assuming the previous owner tuned it with the LV on the bike, perhaps you'll want to lean it up a tad if you go back to OEM exhaust ....my experience with the vast range of maps created (not just the FJR) for PCiii use, you could likely just knock clickk down the PCiii a couple click (or two) and be as good as having a new dyno done ...but that's your call.

Really, you have a lot of options, and that makes life fun.

OH, and if you don't already have the OEM exhaust, likely you could arrange a swap for your LV and make someone real happy ....typically people line up for a chance like that.

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scubatech said:

Ross,
If I remember correctly the Leo's are packed with steel packing material. It last's much longer than fiberglass packing. You probably don't need to do it yet. I have a set on my 2007 and they sound the same as new.

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scubatech said:

If I remember correctly the Leo's are packed with steel packing material. It last's much longer than fiberglass packing. You probably don't need to do it yet. I have a set on my 2007 and they sound the same as new.

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RenoJohn said:

scubatech said:

If I remember correctly the Leo's are packed with steel packing material. It last's much longer than fiberglass packing. You probably don't need to do it yet. I have a set on my 2007 and they sound the same as new.

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That's interesting. hmmm.
Looking at their instructions, they say: "The average duration of

the packing material obviously varies according to the load applied, riding style of the user and

engine size and configuration. For example, a large single or twin cylinder bike will tend to

require shorter packing intervals than a 4 cylinder bike of the same displacement. That being said

it is not uncommon for singles and twins to go 15k miles between repacks and 4 cylinders to go

20k or more due to the high quality dense packing used in LeoVince SBK products.

It may be glass, it may be steel, ...they seem to not want to show their cards (or at least I missed any reference). No doubt one could substitute to their own wishes, but perhaps another reason to get the stuff from LV(?)

Steel indeed would seemingly last much longer than 20K

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scubatech said:

Reno,

I think I read on a thread once that Jeff from Bikeffects said it was steel. He knows the founder of the company. I believe he runs their exhaust on his FJR as well. I bought mine from him.

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RenoJohn said:

scubatech said:

Reno,

I think I read on a thread once that Jeff from Bikeffects said it was steel. He knows the founder of the company. I believe he runs their exhaust on his FJR as well. I bought mine from him.

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Groovy, I'm certainly not doubting you or challenging any. I assumed glass because they require re-packing where steel typically doesn't call for re-packing (Staintunes, Scorpion etc) ....and the packing material that is shown in the re-pack instructions looks like glass ..but certainly could be steel.

Sidenote: I also saw the reference to "quiet" and it seem they may have a different scheme and product for their quiet core(??) total speculation on my part.

When all the answers come out, I'll be very curious, ...wake me up as I won't be loosing much sleep over it

thanks

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