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Unseasonably cool and dry in Cen. Fla. today...85 degrees and 60% humidity instead of 95 / 95. :D

So this afternoon, head out for a ride. Driving past the local Yam dealer, I decide to stop in and yak about the '06. Wanna see if they have ANY info. Well, they don't, except they're also wondering why Mama Yama took the '06 info off the web.

What they DID have was a gorgeous '03. Visually, this sweetie was Ivory soap...99 & 44/100ths pure. The only visual flaw I could find was what looked like wear or discoloration on the trim ring around the gas filler. Almost (maybe) like car wax had got in the pattern. No big deal. Further details upcoming.

I hung around long enough to convince the sales staff I was a serious shopper, not a Lookie Lou, and got them to finally give me a test drive.

Sweet ride. Now I see what you guys have been bragging about. But I do have a few questions to ask from my drive....

The bike is quiet as a mouse. Definitely NOT a ticker. I listened VERY carefully both cold and hot. Front tire fairly shot and the bike exhibited a definite head shake between 50 & 55 mph. Hands-off the bars would be fatal, it shakes so hard. Front was a worn-out, cupped Michelin Pilot Road. The back was a Dunlop something or other. Why do people mix brands? The rear-end of the bike felt very plush and planted over some bad interstate pavement, but the front-end felt loose and sloppy, like the head bearings or forks needed some attention. Plus there was some audible clunking/rattling from the front while traversing rough sections. May be more to the head-shake than just a worn out tire.

Also, when accelerating, after hitting 2nd gear, while still accelerating, the bike seemed to jerk/jump, like a chain slipping under hard acceleration. Only does it in 2nd, but does it every time. Almost feels like it's auto-shifting. Anyone familiar with this phenomenon? I know, it's not a chain final drive, but that's the best analogy I can come up with. The gearbox also seems a bit sloppy/clunky/noisy for a 27K bike. Figured it would have smoothed out by now.

Finally, impressions-wise, after about 20-30 minutes riding, my left ankle felt par-boiled. So THIS is the infamous heat issue I've been reading about. Not bad on the right leg, but definite on the left.

So, that's the skinny on the bike. Here are the details on the possible purchase.

'03 FJR1300 with 27,000 miles....$8,500.00

Needs tires.......................................300.00

2 year YES........................................700.00

Color-matched GIVI top bag.............350.00

Total $9,850.00

I'd buy the YES "just because" but I figure by 27K miles, the bike's chances of becoming a "ticker" are probably behind it. The tires are a "given". They need changing. And the top bag is just an "I want one", so doesn't really go against the value of the bike.

Now the problem...the bike is a consignment item. The dealer doesn't own it, they're just selling it for a customer, so they aren't going to warranty anything on it. If there IS a tranny problem or steering head problem, it's MY problem if I buy it.

Long story short (sorry, guess it already IS a long story) I left the dealer a $500 deposit on the bike to make sure someone didn't buy it out from under me, with the stipulation that after I had "slept on it" (read: "asked you guys about it") if I decided against buying the bike, I still had in effect given them a $500 deposit on the very first '06 to hit their showroom.

So in a nutshell, today I bought my Feejer. It's either an '03 with possible transmission/steering issues for $9,850, or I get the first '06 in Lakeland, Florida.

One gets the definite impression reading this forum that an '03 is the "Best of Breed" if it's not a "ticker". Is $8,500 too much for an '03? Or is the price realistic. And if there are tranny problems, let the YES take care of it or try to get the owner to back off some on the price.

Or, wait for an '06?

What y'all think?

 
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Here's my thoughts in no particular order...

All of the front end problems sound like a combination of the tire and a loose head. Tighten that main headbolt to spec and check the bearings. Those should clear it up. I can do hands off at any speed, decelerating or cruising with throttle lock engaged... Not a wobble. All FJRs should be likewise (except at low speeds, certain tires may wobble due to tread patterns, but only at low speeds).

Mismatched tires... some people think it's a Goldwing... when you're only using 15% of the tire, it doesn't really matter what you put on there. Everyone else with a bit of sense matches the tires. ;)

Clunky tranny... run it up to at least 4-5000 rpm before shifting. Almost all Yamis hate low RPM shifts. It'll probably shift much smoother in that range.

2nd gear "glitch"... no idea... mine takes a bit more "effort" to get into second than the other gears do, but otherwise is fine.

Heat... wear boots and real bike pants. Jeans and sneakers will cook you. ;)

YES warantee... Make SURE your dealer knows what he's talking about. I'm not sure you can get one after the original warantee has expired. Again, double check this, I could be on crack. Just make sure before you rely on it.

All in all... IF I was in your shoes AND it wouldn't be a big deal to handle the extra money involved in an '06 AND I could wait that long, I'd go that route. If the money is an issue, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the '03 from your descriptions, but I'd be real leary about relying on the YES warantee until you've confirmed it. I don't think I'd be comfortable without it.

Oh... and it was quite nice today... I did a couple hundred miles in and around the Ocala National Forest all day. LONG and STRAIGHT roads... ;)

 
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I bought my '03 in June over at Champion Yamaha in Winter Garden. 8079 mi., new tires (Mich. Sports, don't rec. Only 1500 mi. out of the rear), and only had one small scratch on right bag. $8000.00. Mine doesn't exhibit any of those conditions. Well, maybe the trans being a little clunky, but like stated, rev to 4 -5 grand and smooth as silk. The heat's not bad. Ride an '04 R1 in traffic and you'll know what heat is! lol I say go work on that price some more! Point out all the things that concern you. They'll come down if they want to sell it. I don't think anythings wrong that can't be easily fixed if your mechanically inclined! Do check out the trans better though! I love my R1, but I find myself riding the FJR more and more! Me and my girlfriend just got home from a 150 mi. ride tonight on it (she's the reason I bought it,lol). It's a great bike!

 
if your going to spend that much cash go for the 2006 .... why spend 9k the bike has 27000 miles and maybe a tranny problem . you just might be able to purchase a 2006 for say between 10500 and 11500

 
If your gunna pay $7000, [$8k seems a little high] you should be getting a new set of tires, have the throttles sync'd new plugs and wires... and also get a yes warrantee... with that kind of milage...

Not that its a big deal, cause many people like to ride long miles with that machine... tell them to fix all that shhhh--tuff and then you'll come and test drive it again... Otherwise walk...

JMHO.... I would rather try to pick up a used '05 for a grand more then they want.. there are alot of them around...

go to www.cycletrader.com and do a search for fjr1300

I found "92 ads matched your search criteria." in US...

14 in florida... customize your search for your area...

shop around....

right now is the time that the consumer has the advantage...

Winter is coming up on us... :) means deal time is here... :)

 
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