How many years have you been personally dealing with this person? I am sure you are aware that long-term exposure to you can and will cause serious mental and emotional instability. In any account, does he even sell these tires? Perhaps you could approach him about installing on your other bike, since it is lighter. Maybe the response would indicate motivation. (such as tire safety vs. profit margins) That's why I asked the question, dork. I'm tending not to believe his concerns anymore, but still, I'm concerned that a budget tire might be less than optimal for this platform. The last thing I wanna think about while doing a ton fully ladened is the friggin' tires. Capice? I figger some other poor sap can do the test piloting rather than me. I **** up enough on my own and don't need any other outside influences helping me along to the Great Canyon Road in the Sky. While I agree that tire impressions can't be compared, you overstate the difference in weight.
Uh, this was the only question that you asked. The knock on the the head significantly reduced my e.s.p., so I did miss most of that inference. Now, for the benefit of the forum membership, borrow some nads and just try the damn tires. Sheesh.
Uh, I knew that. It was a test. Your prize will be shipped Monday.
Forgive Scab, he's still suffering from the trauma. :dribble:Uh, this was the only question that you asked. The knock on the the head significantly reduced my e.s.p., so I did miss most of that inference. Now, for the benefit of the forum membership, borrow some nads and just try the damn tires. Sheesh.
Uh, I knew that. It was a test. Your prize will be shipped Monday.
Please don't say that!Forgive Scab, he's still suffering from the trauma. :dribble:Uh, this was the only question that you asked. The knock on the the head significantly reduced my e.s.p., so I did miss most of that inference. Now, for the benefit of the forum membership, borrow some nads and just try the damn tires. Sheesh.
Uh, I knew that. It was a test. Your prize will be shipped Monday.
My Feejer will be loaded for bear, but just one up with 200 pounds of me. Shinkos are on and scrubbed in. I'll put about 6K on the trip from Indiana, to Montana then down to PC and back home. That will be a real world test. I won't be going ScooterG fast or long, but I'll give them a better'n average work out. I'm taking my camera and little wifi fuji, so hopefully you'll get reports from the road.
So far, they feel really good. If the case holds up, if it's a harder compound, I would expect longer wear, especially on a touring trip. Time will tell. Stay tuned for more....
Just because a guy "mounts" tires really doesn't mean he knows much about "riding" on tires or how they perform. How many Shinko's does he actually have experience with is he just another BS'er like most of the guys who talk about Shinko's and have absolutely no experience with them? Guys who actually have them are not complaining, in fact, quite the opposite.
Right now I've got 400-500 miles on my set of Ravens and I've been progressively pushing them. I don't know what they do on slabs because I've been running primarily twisties. Unlike Storms they don't have any wobble nor do they make me fight to keep my line. I can say +1 to everything wanderer has said. As far as load rating goes, and I know this is far from being scientific but I have yet to see science affect a tire topic much anyway, a quick gander at a Storm before and after a few K miles plus flexing its sidewalls and you might consider going on a diet before spooning on another set.
**** that. This is the prescribed therapy.
Friggin' nimrod still can't understand simple English, which means we still have a way to go. Mrs. Scab must be at wits end!Yeah, well scientific 'theory' is just that and on that, we agree. Save for cords showing, my 1st Storm rear was in great shape when de-rimmed. Give me numbers and make me a believer. Load that sum ***** up to the max and run about 2 or 3 k at LD speeds and report back. That's the info I'm interested in reading before I try the Shinko's.
If you look at a Storm cross section, which I did, you won't go near the chords again, unless of course you're suicidal. What is great shape? I compared my Storm with a BT020 with exactly the same miles. Storm was spongy rubber in the center and sidewalls (a very good indicator of load rating) were no where near as stiff as the Bridgestones. What kind of numbers are you looking for???? There ain't no "sum ***** load meter." It's all feel, speculation and mystical rectal extraction. Maybe if you have the rim touching the ground when loaded it would say something, but like I said or implied, there are no numbers to show.
+1 BobG. I just looked at the Avon, Shinko and BT020 that came stock. The fact that Yamaha puts the BT020 on at the factory and it has the exact same load numbers as the Shinko (and Avon) should make this entire point a waste of bandwidth. Here are some other facts that really don't mean much. BT020 - tread 3 nylon plies and 1 steel, sidewall 3 nylon; Avon tread 2 nylon, 1 aramid, sidewall 2 nylon; Shinko tread 2 nylon, 1 aramid, sidewall 1 Nylon. When you cut the Avon, those two nylons sure look one and the Avon is surely the flimsiest feeling sidewall of the three.
It's a mix. Seems like CDOT is slowly asphalting everything around here, but most of the roads are the grey chip-seal or high aggregate concrete.
I came to this same conclusion after an exhaustive search when I was tire shopping.
Rain, what's rain, haven't seen any
We're in a major drought here. I hear that the Storm was the cat's behind in the wet, but as I've always said, I have yet to find a tire that is "good" in the rain. My Avon slid some and so did every other tire I have ridden. I just slow down, and I mean a lot in the rain.
