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I did. I sync'd 'em up. Purrs like a kitten. Amazing how twisting those little air screws can smooth out the bike. Mine weren't very far off, but it sure made a difference.

Just a reminder for those of you not on a rigorous maintenance schedule. Get out that Motion Pro, and GET TO WORK! You'll be glad you did!

 
Where you able to get all four to 250mm Hg? I did my 06 last night and could get No 1, 3, 4 to 250, but fell short on no 2. Ended up balancing all four at 240mm.

 
I was able to get them all balanced, but I don't pay much attention to what the readings are on the stick. I think they were in the range of 24. I usually just try to get them as high on the scale as I can, then balance to the lowest cylinder. Usually, that means I end up with one screw at the stop, and the rest sync up to that one.

 
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The readings on my economy model aren't accurate. If I measure from the lowest mark (2 cm) down to the mercury surface, the distance is ~3.5 cm. So, all the readings are 1.5 cm (15 mm) too low. A reading of 23.5 would be just about right.

 
If you cannot get right on 250 it is not a big deal. A little less is fine, just get them all the same.

A couple things I have noticed;

-Get a carb tuner and do it yourself. It is so so easy, and it will save you money from the dealer.

-When the dealer does it, it may not be a good job.

I let the dealer do it once, and I checked it shortly after and found them out of sync still by as much as 20 mm.

-Doing it fresh/cold I found it harder to get them to 250. I bottomed out the screw on #3 before it came into range.

Doing it after a ride and letting the engine get warm again, it was very easy to get them all to 250.

-Have a fan in front of the rad to keep the temps down.

-Did I mention it is very very easy, and the payoff is great.

-There are many articles all over this forum about doing it, search.

YMMV

 
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I was able to get them all balanced, but I don't pay much attention to what the readings are on the stick.
+1, and yes I did mine Friday night... one of a bunch of maintenance items I'm doing on the bike before my Reno excursion... :)

 
Hmm. Maybe I will try this. I saw the FJRTech article on this. Does that work for you fellas?

Don

 
Hmm. Maybe I will try this. I saw the FJRTech article on this. Does that work for you fellas?
The FJRtech article is great... although if you have an '06, you might have to figure out how to get the new heat shield out of the way to get access to the vacuum ports and adjustment screws.

 
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I posted this alternative TB Sync Procedure about a year ago. Here it is again, Have fun. Tracy...

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Alternative TB Sync Procedure

Adjusting the TB air screws alone does not provide the most effective TB sync because they only compensate for air flow at idle. Most of your riding takes place at higher RPMs. The throttle valves (butterflies) of each throttle body need to be in sync with each other at high (off-idle) RPM.

This procedure is not covered in the factory manual. However this adjustment is common and dealers that know what they are doing (and are willing to take the time) perform this adjustment on many multi-cylinder bikes. Having the TB’s in sync at cruising speeds (not just at idle) makes a huge difference in engine smoothness and vibration.

You should not have to adjust the individual throttle stop screws to achieve this. This assumes that the throttle stop screws have not been grossly misadjusted at the factory (guy on the flow bench had one too many bottles of Sapporo the night before) or the lock nuts have come loose.

To get the engine’s intake tracks in sync the four throttle body linkages are adjusted. TB’s #1 & #2 are one pair and #3 & #4 are the other pair—finally the two pairs are adjusted together (#1 & #2 and #3 & #4). This is a simple procedure but does take patience. Here is what I did to get my FJR in sync.

1) Get the engine hot by going for a short ride. When you are at 4200 RPM, squeeze you heals against the frame to feel the level of vibration. This highly precise measurement will be used later to determine how good a sync job you did.

2) Raise Tank and connect sync tool.

3) Turn all four air adjusting screws in until they are lightly seated.

4) Back each screw out 1 turn

5) You may want to place a large fan in front of the radiator to keep things cool (including you).

6) Start engine.

7) The TBs should be out of sync to some extent but not more than 1 to 4 cm of Hg. The actual vacuum level does not matter. If they are out more than this keep going through these steps—we’ll fix this later in the procedure.

8) REVING THE ENGINE Slowly rev the engine up to around 4000 RPM while watching your sync tool. What you are looking for is even vacuum levels as engine speed increases. If you try to do sync the TBs with the engine speed steady (say at 4000 RPM) you will find that the vacuum levels between TB will never be in sync no matter how many adjustments you make. It is more important for vacuum levels to be even during slow, smooth, engine acceleration and not at a steady throttle setting.

9) Using the butterfly sync screw between TBs #3 and #4 adjust the vac level so #3 and #4 are the same when you accelerate the engine as described in step 8, “REVING THE ENGINE above. This will take several tries. You may not get them exactly even either, but get them as close as you can (usually within 1 cm of Hg.).

10) Now perform the same procedure on TBs #1 and #2. You may have to rev the engine half a dozen times to get this close.

11) With vacuum levels for TB pairs #1/#2 and #3/#4 matched it’s time to sync the two pairs of TBs together.

12) Rev the engine as described in step 8, REVING THE ENGINE while watching the two pairs of TBs. If they are off by more than 1 cm or Hg., an adjustment is needed.

13) The adjustment screw can only be accessed with the engine off. The screw is located between the two pairs of TBs. (The throttle has to be opened about ¾ of a turn to get a screw driver on the screw). Turn the screw about 1/8 (either way) of a turn and restart the engine.

14) Check the balance (vacuum level) between the two pairs of TBs. Shut the engine off and readjust as needed. (By now you and your FJR’s cooling system will appreciate the large fan you are using, step 5.)

15) When the two pairs of TBs are even (when you smoothly rev the engine) you are finished with this step.

16) Now let the engine idle. Adjust the idle speed to 1000. The tach on the FJR is very accurate. I checked it against a $500 electronic sync tool that counts the vacuum pulses during the intake stroke of cyl #1 and then generates an RPM signal on the tool.

17) Now it’s time (finally) to adjust the air screws on each TB. Use cyl #3 as reference and adjust the other cylinders to the same vacuum level as #3. The actual level does not matter (I know, everyone seems to be hung up on how may cm of HG., but it really doesn’t matter as long as idle speed is kept at 1000 RPM.)

18) Make a final idle adjustment (1000 RPM) and you done. If after syncing the TBs with the air screws you can’t get the idle speed to come down to 1000 rpm, DON’T KEEP BACKING THE IDLE ADJUSTING SCREW OUT. The TB air screws all need to be turned in ½ turn. Now the idle adjusting screw will allow you to adjust the idle speed to 1000 rpm.

19) Go for a ride and check engine vibration at 4200 RPM, it should be better than when you started. It it’s worse, you screwed up the adjustment. The amount of improvement really depends on how far out of the sync the TBs were before you started. When done correctly most of the vibration you normally feel at 4100/4200 RPM should be gone—at least it was on my bike. Good Luck!

 
Did mine friday night, after I changed out my spark plug back to regular plugs. I didn't find the Iridiums plugs make any significant improvements, so I put new standard plugs, changed the engine and rear oil, and lubed the splines of course. So I'm ready for my trip next month! Did I mention I wrapped my header exausts to take the edge off the heat in the summer, and got my vstream? Oh does anyone know where I can dispose of the motion pro (with the mercury) when I get a new meter?

 
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Just did mine on my 06.

This alone has improved the on/off throttle as much as if not more than the jumper mod and spring release combined. :yahoo:

Much smoother. I've also noticed my bike would choke a little when blipping the throttle....thats gone now too.

They weren't off much but none were in balance with each other.

I was able to get 1&4 and 2&3 to match and that did the trick. :D

 
I didn't find the Iridiums plugs make any significant improvements, so I put new standard plugs
yeah, the very first reports were that there be no performance improvements from using iridium plugs. the extra expense is justified by the increased service interval.

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Iridium plugs after being in the bike for 16k miles. All looked good. Any electrodes that look eroded or broken are simply because the angle of the camera was bad on that plug. all plugs looked like #2 and #4 (left to right). The gunk toward the shoulder of the threads is anti sieze. i went easier on that stuff with the replacement plugs.

 
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Anybody in the Portland, Oregon area or Southwest Washington have a sync tool and want to help a poor waif out? :cray:

I know I should get one, it's been on the list for a while. The seat trumped it though. So did the GPS. And some new tires. Also the cruise control....

 
Anybody in the Portland, Oregon area or Southwest Washington have a sync tool and want to help a poor waif out? :cray:
I know I should get one, it's been on the list for a while. The seat trumped it though. So did the GPS. And some new tires. Also the cruise control....
Use your GPS to go find a shop, you tight ***.

Well... I got one you can use if you want to drive to the Chicago area.

Bruce

 
Anybody in the Portland, Oregon area or Southwest Washington have a sync tool and want to help a poor waif out? :cray:

I know I should get one, it's been on the list for a while. The seat trumped it though. So did the GPS. And some new tires. Also the cruise control....
Use your GPS to go find a shop, you tight ***.

Well... I got one you can use if you want to drive to the Chicago area.

Bruce

I don't trust my local shops. They put on a tire for me once that jumped the rim 5 seconds after I got off the highway, causing me to wreck.

I'd go to Sunnyside, but I don't have enough PTO to take a day off to go up there and still take my vacation.

 
Did mine yesterday, plus new Irridiums, V-Stream, FZ1 mirrors and an oil change.

The Morgan Carbtune makes an easy job absolute cake.

200 miler this PM and smooth as silk. See you in Reno!

 
>>Get out that Motion Pro, and GET TO WORK! You'll be glad you did!<<

Who makes a carb sync that does not use mercury? This is my first I-4 motorcycle engine in many many years. I used to have a mercury sync tool, but over the years, the plastic cracked and all the mercury leaked away into the environment. I refuse to buy a merury sync tool again after having that happen.

So, who makes one using gages?

 
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