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  1. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    Update to my '03 project FJR. I have corrected the safety cut off circuit issue, and the bike is now working as expected. I ended up having to replace the neutral switch, the side stand switch, and the safety cut off relay. Also because of how the system is somehow interconnected through the...
  2. Sunnyorlando

    Considering a 2016 FJR, but concerned about tranny recall.

    FWIW - I have been running Pirelli Angel GT II A Spec for the past 2~3 sets. It's a tire that does not get mentioned/credited much for some reason, but it deserves a strong consideration. Others I ride with also like it even after having had Michelin, Metzler or Dunlops, all of which I've tried...
  3. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    No luck with WD-40. Yep, I guess we are saying the same thing, but shorting the connection is for an open switch condition and the bike will not go thinking the stand is down and die on clutch release. As for starting, the bike will actually start under either condition with clutch pulled. It's...
  4. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    No, it's the other way. This bad switch is internally shorted, it tells the relay that the sidetand is up all the time and that's why it starts with sidestand down under any condition, because it doesn't know. So this is a 'N/C' circuit for normal operation - run. Shorted means sidestand up...
  5. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    That's correct, the wires would need to be cut and separated for the circuit to be open, 'sidestand up'.
  6. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    Exactly, when I Ohm it, it's shorted. So in this case the 'safety' position for this circuit is normally open. This one is 'closed', so it's shorted.
  7. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    Already took it off the bike and it's completely sealed. Wires look good. I've sprayed the plunger with WD and will see what happens tomorrow. I see many that look identical to it, but the numbering is slightly different - mine if 5JW-82566 vs 5JJ-, 5KW- or 5**- and so on. I wonder if there's...
  8. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    Yep, the DiaG is saying its not working, though I remember (i think) checking this early on. By maybe my memory is fooling me. Today it shows no change with the onboard DiaG and an Ohm meter when actuating it. So now looking for a sidestand switch 5JW-82566-00. Anyone have one available?
  9. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    Update - i have replaced the start cutoff relay which I now believe was not working correctly. Progess: > Bike will not start in gear without pulling the clutch. This passes this test. > Bike starts in N w/out pulling the clutch. This seems consistent with some of these safety cutoff designs -...
  10. Sunnyorlando

    Handlebar riser nightmare

    Sorry to hear that issue, I have HeliBars on my '18 and the worked as designed. I can't speak of any customer service issues with them, other they are (probably rightfully so) very proud of their products, albeit expensive ones. When I installed mine I did have a bit of an issue trying to get it...
  11. Sunnyorlando

    Gen 3 CEL solution?

    This is good to know. What else can be done with the OBD2. I know what and how to use these in cars, but have never done so on a bike. I have accss to VagCom connector and sw (VW Auto group) and also ForScan (Ford, Hyundai and others). You can use these to tweak many functions in the cars...
  12. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    Thanks Bounce, I agree that it appears to be working correctly. And I know it's there by design and I was not questioning it...I'm trying to restore the functionality that the prev owner messed up. The issue appears to be with the N circuit and how it runs through the windshield motor circuit...
  13. Sunnyorlando

    Bike won't crank with sidestand down

    As recommended, I'm posting a standalone thread rather tagging to another. I have an '03 - starts runs just fine. However, 2 issues: - Neutral light not working - Won't start with sidestand down So far: > checked bulb = good > Sidetand down, clutch in - fuel pump primes when pressing start...
  14. Sunnyorlando

    Won’t start in neutral with side stand down 2008 Model

    Thanks - i understand. The reason I appended to this thread is because the symptom was similar and I figured that the testing of the switch may be helpful/similar. The removal of the switch in an '03 apparently is a bit tedious, it's requiring to remove the tank and the air box, and some say the...
  15. Sunnyorlando

    Won’t start in neutral with side stand down 2008 Model

    Ross - Well, not exactly - that procedure is testing the circuit as a whole, not the individual component. Because of the multi points affecting this circuit, theres unknown factors. A test procedure for the specific component would tell mwhat to expect at the terminating point(s). So - Should...
  16. Sunnyorlando

    Won’t start in neutral with side stand down 2008 Model

    Thanks... so I had and did again search. While I do find these topics, I don't see a specific test for the N switch other than the sequencing of what could trigger the cut off, but none of those test the specific switch - as far as I can tell. With these tested you validate the circuit function...
  17. Sunnyorlando

    Won’t start in neutral with side stand down 2008 Model

    Thanks - is there another known specific test procedure for this other than what I mentioned above?
  18. Sunnyorlando

    Won’t start in neutral with side stand down 2008 Model

    I have the similar on my project bike. It's an '03 - bike runs just fine, however. Neutral light not working - > checked bulb = good Sidetand down, clutch in - fuel pump primes, but no crank. Sidestand up, clutch in, fuel pump primes and engine starts. Bike in N (rear tire visually not...
  19. Sunnyorlando

    Gen 2 Fork Disassembly - Advice required

    Great information - Before I get to my forks, I'd like to verify one answer I was given elsewhere - that Gen1 do not have the middle bushing issue. Is this correct?
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