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I got an e mail this morning from K and G, they don't have any.

I believe they are the same. I think I just read about somebody fitting '13s to a newer one. Thanks for info, I'll check with them.

I'm sure everybody is getting tired of reading about Canyon Cages, but. I'm looking for a set, new or used, for my '18 ES. I've done so many searches for them my eyes are getting blurry. If anybody has a set they could turn loose of I'ld gladly compensate you financially. I know there are...