Hello FJR forum members, I need some expertise guidance. I have an 04 fjr daily commuter, I arrived home everything was ok the next morning I went to start the bike and it sounded like it was about to fire off it stalled and now it will turn over but no start, I smell gas and I hear the fuel pump come on. I checked the fuses i could find, the ones by the battery and the fuse block beside the glove box/storage compartment, before I go and lift the tank and pull spark plugs to check for spark are there any other things I should be looking at beforehand. thanks in advance for your response
04 fjr Wont start
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FJRay
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Sounds like a flooded FJR. Wide open throttle and crank it til it starts and then let it completely warm up or it will do it again
ionbeam
2 FUN
First big question -- does it turn over at the normal rate or does it seem to spin very fast?
(There is a story here...) If it spins fast, don't bother doing anything else and write back to the Forum ASAP.
Assuming it turns over at a normal rate it is most likely just flooded, not a rare thing for the FJR. You need to hold the throttle wide open and run the stater for 5-10 seconds then pause a bit to keep from over heating the starter then run the starter 5-10 seconds again. Repeat until it starts in the 3rd to 6th try. More or less. Um, you do have gas right? It won't crank at all if the Run/Stop button is in the Stop position.
Cross Post, FJRay and I posted the same stuff almost simultaneously.
Assuming it turns over at a normal rate it is most likely just flooded, not a rare thing for the FJR. You need to hold the throttle wide open and run the stater for 5-10 seconds then pause a bit to keep from over heating the starter then run the starter 5-10 seconds again. Repeat until it starts in the 3rd to 6th try. More or less. Um, you do have gas right? It won't crank at all if the Run/Stop button is in the Stop position.
Cross Post, FJRay and I posted the same stuff almost simultaneously.
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ionbeam
2 FUN
Before going nuts, try charging the battery and try the flooded start thingie again. If you have an assistant, have them do a short crank while you verify positive puffs of pressure coming out of the exhaust cans. If you can feel this, keep with the flooded start routine. If you don't feel strong exhaust pulses, skip to the last paragraph. I really expect that you have a simple situation like wet spark plugs and there will be a simple solution.
You can test the spark plugs and injectors by using the built in diagnostics and can test a bunch of other**** stuff too. You may want to give this a lookie-see before disassembling anything. Click >>HERE<< There won't be any blown fuses that will cause your no-start.
Before the story -- rarely but not unheard of a piece of carbon or ??? can hold a valve open and create a non-start condition.
The Gen I FJRs had a POS cam chain tensioner that ever so rarely would let the cam chain skip a tooth or few on the crank sprocket. The FJR engine is an interference engine, if the pistons are not mechanically timed with the valves due to skipped teeth they will hit each other. I really hope this isn't what has happened and you are mistaken about the faster spin. You can check for this by either a compression test or a leak-down test. Zero in any test is a bad number.
You can test the spark plugs and injectors by using the built in diagnostics and can test a bunch of other
Before the story -- rarely but not unheard of a piece of carbon or ??? can hold a valve open and create a non-start condition.
The Gen I FJRs had a POS cam chain tensioner that ever so rarely would let the cam chain skip a tooth or few on the crank sprocket. The FJR engine is an interference engine, if the pistons are not mechanically timed with the valves due to skipped teeth they will hit each other. I really hope this isn't what has happened and you are mistaken about the faster spin. You can check for this by either a compression test or a leak-down test. Zero in any test is a bad number.
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MCML
Not All Who Wander Are Lost
Earlier this year I experienced a similar problem with my 2004. I don't know if the cause was/is the same, and you are already hearing advice from the best mechanic I know, but I found post number three (by Toecutter) in this thread to be very helpful.
https://www.fjrforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23741
https://www.fjrforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23741
wheatonFJR
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MCML
Not All Who Wander Are Lost
Yep, Wheatie, that was what finally got the FJR fired up after two weeks of frustration . . . but you've got to get the proportions just right. Too much coconut and, well, I don't even want to think about that.....
HotRodZilla
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Did the OP ever get his bike started?
This happened to me a couple weeks ago. I had to move the bike from the garage to help my brother install suspension on his FJ Cruiser. I started it for a few seconds and put it away. A day or two later, I went to start it. It almost fired and then just spun...Seemed faster than normal.
I freaked out at first, but then remembered I had "short started" it. So, I went WOT and cranked it a few more times. It coughed and fired up. Ran just fine once I got it on the road. I think it just did the flood thing worse than usual.
This happened to me a couple weeks ago. I had to move the bike from the garage to help my brother install suspension on his FJ Cruiser. I started it for a few seconds and put it away. A day or two later, I went to start it. It almost fired and then just spun...Seemed faster than normal.
I freaked out at first, but then remembered I had "short started" it. So, I went WOT and cranked it a few more times. It coughed and fired up. Ran just fine once I got it on the road. I think it just did the flood thing worse than usual.
SkooterG
Purveyor of Crooked Facts
Yer an idiot.
HotRodZilla
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Says the idiot.
Where you been buddy?? Your stupid job never runs you through Albuquerque?
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ionbeam
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I believe the proper way to get Skoot to arrive is to say, "I'll buy you a couple of beers and we can...job never runs you through Albuquerque?Or are you just scared to hang out and drink a couple beers??
Would be nice to know if/how the OP resolved the no start.
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luvtoride
My Indian name is "Pants On Fire"
Alan, my bike had the fast starter & it was only flooded.First big question -- does it turn over at the normal rate or does it seem to spin very fast?(There is a story here...) If it spins fast, don't bother doing anything else and write back to the Forum ASAP.
SkooterG
Purveyor of Crooked Facts
I believe the proper way to get Skoot to arrive is to say, "I'll buy you a couple of beers and we can...job never runs you through Albuquerque?Or are you just scared to hang out and drink a couple beers??hang outhave some fun."
Would be nice to know if/how the OP resolved the no start.
There goes the Smart Feller again!
I've had the no start thing happen to me a few times in the last 400,000 FJR miles and 10 years. All but one time WOT solved it. But once, about a year ago after a long period of no issues and nothing out of ordinary about my FJR starting routine I got the dreaded 'no start' on my 100k mile 2004 FJR. And no WOT would start it. I didn't have time to deal with it so plugged in the battery tender (I ran the battery dead trying to start) and jumped on my other FJR (always nice to have) to get where I needed to go. When I returned many hours later it started up right away on the first attempt. Go figure. Weird issue. Why it happens I have no idea, but seems to fix itself with time if WOT doesn't cure it.
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