I'm sorry I don't have a pic of it to post, but I'm trying to figure out what's going on with my windscreen. The right-most 1/3 of it looks like it's starting to delaminate. It's hard to describe, but if you've ever seen a sunburn that's just beginning to peel, that's sorta what it's like. I have tried picking at the edges of where it seems to be peeling, but it doesn't come up. I've washed it a few times since I first noticed it, but it doesn't seem to be getting better or worse. It hasn't really effected visibility as I almost always have the screen all the way down and am looking over it, but just knowing it's there is frustrating. Have any of you ever come across this before and is there a fix other than replacing the whole screen?
'13 Stock windscreen delaminating?
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bigjohnsd
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The factory windscreen is made out of Lexan, a soft but tough plastic. To make Lexan suitable for motorcycle windshield applications the manufacturer coats the finished lexan windshield with a "Hard Coat". What you are seeing flaking off is the hard coat.
Hard coat will eventually delaminate and flake off of any Lexan windshield. In your case, noting that you are from Phoenix, I would venture a guess that significant sun exposure has accelerated the process.
Do you have Y.E.S. protection on your bike? If you do you might try approaching your dealers service manager and see if Yamaha will cover the replacement of the windshield. I reviewed my 2013 Y.E.S. Contract and there is an exclusion for appearance related failures but the windshield is not one of the appearance related exclusions. There is an exclusion paragraph which calls out a requirement for "proper storage". If the bike has been sitting in the Phoenix sun 24/7 for two + years they may involk that clause.
Even if you don't have a Y.E.S. contract it won't hurt to ask for consideration.
When you approach the service manager remember you will catch more fly's with Honey than you will with vinegar; you want him to go to bat for you with Yamaha to get it covered. If you go in all blustery and pissed off it is not likely that he is going to try and persuade Yamaha Warranty very hard.
Good luck!
Hard coat will eventually delaminate and flake off of any Lexan windshield. In your case, noting that you are from Phoenix, I would venture a guess that significant sun exposure has accelerated the process.
Do you have Y.E.S. protection on your bike? If you do you might try approaching your dealers service manager and see if Yamaha will cover the replacement of the windshield. I reviewed my 2013 Y.E.S. Contract and there is an exclusion for appearance related failures but the windshield is not one of the appearance related exclusions. There is an exclusion paragraph which calls out a requirement for "proper storage". If the bike has been sitting in the Phoenix sun 24/7 for two + years they may involk that clause.
Even if you don't have a Y.E.S. contract it won't hurt to ask for consideration.
When you approach the service manager remember you will catch more fly's with Honey than you will with vinegar; you want him to go to bat for you with Yamaha to get it covered. If you go in all blustery and pissed off it is not likely that he is going to try and persuade Yamaha Warranty very hard.
Good luck!
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G Squared
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Listen to BigJohn for he knows what he speaks on that issue.
RossKean
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I hope you have luck with the dealer. For future reference, what have you been using to clean the shield? Ammonia based cleaners, for example, are not very good for these plastics; especially the hard-coated ones. Have you used anything to help rain bead off (wax or Rain-X)?
Once the delamination of the coating has started, the shield cannot be restored.
Once the delamination of the coating has started, the shield cannot be restored.
Just a clean soft rag to brush most of the bug guts off, then some pink motorcycle cleaner (recommended by the good folks at my local Cycle Gear) heavily diluted in water for the whole bike, no wax or rain-x. Microfiber detailing cloths to dry as soon as a section is rinsed off. Only time ammonia-based anything gets near my bike is when I spray a paper towel with windex to clean smudges off the mirror glass.
RossKean
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Sounds like you god a bad one or at least one that wasn't built to endure the Phoenix heat or sunlight intensity.
Mudslide Miller
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Plexus is my cleaner of choice for windhields, mirrors & instrument covers. Haven't had any problems with the Cee Bailey screen in the Phx sun, YET!
bigjohnsd
2021 BMW R1250GSA
Your Cee Bailey windscreen is not Lexan, rather it is Acrylic, probably GE Lucite, a harder plastic which does not require a hard coating.
Quote from Cee Bailey website:
Our motorcycle transparency line, uses the same identical acrylic, processes and procedures as our aircraft windshield manufacturing. We use aircraft grade acrylic for most applications, and highly modified impact acrylic for most headlight guards. Although there are many companies that can produce motorcycle windshields, not one of these can produce an article for an aircraft. All of our windshields, motorcycle and aircraft, go through rigorous processes, conceptual prototyping, mold flow designs, engineering, drawings, records, audits, inspections, etc., along the way before a product leaves our door. We can still accomplish all these steps and give the customer a high quality, aircraft grade product for their motorcycle at very reasonable prices.
Quote from Cee Bailey website:
Our motorcycle transparency line, uses the same identical acrylic, processes and procedures as our aircraft windshield manufacturing. We use aircraft grade acrylic for most applications, and highly modified impact acrylic for most headlight guards. Although there are many companies that can produce motorcycle windshields, not one of these can produce an article for an aircraft. All of our windshields, motorcycle and aircraft, go through rigorous processes, conceptual prototyping, mold flow designs, engineering, drawings, records, audits, inspections, etc., along the way before a product leaves our door. We can still accomplish all these steps and give the customer a high quality, aircraft grade product for their motorcycle at very reasonable prices.
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This may sound stupid but do they put a protective layer of plastic on the windscreen so as not to scratch it during shipping? If so maybe that is what is peeling off and not the hard coat. The prep guy may have left it on there not knowing.
Just a dumb thought,
Dave
Just a dumb thought,
Dave
Not a dumb thought, Dave. That was one of the first things that ran through my head too. That's why I picked at it with my fingernails when I first saw it, just in case it was that sort of anti-scratch film. No luck, though.
(edit: ok, just because I thought it too doesn't make it not dumb. It just happens to make sense to rule it out in this case...)
(edit: ok, just because I thought it too doesn't make it not dumb. It just happens to make sense to rule it out in this case...)
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HotRodZilla
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The shipping film was actually a good idea. You never know who may have missed what. As it stands, I'd go to my dealer and see if I couldn't get it replaced under warranty. It's not an appearance issue, it's a manufacture issue if something didn't hit it and cause it to happen.
Ask, all they can say is no.
Ask, all they can say is no.
Mihalis fjr
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The same happened to me,but after when i tried to remove some glue residue from a duct tape when i tried to install a Laminar lip on.
I did the stupidity to try it with pure alcohol.then,the 1/3 of the protective film was destroyed...
Perhaps something from what you have used did the damage..
I did the stupidity to try it with pure alcohol.then,the 1/3 of the protective film was destroyed...
Perhaps something from what you have used did the damage..
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