Any Good Golf Courses in the Reno/Tahoe Area

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Don't know if there are many golfers out there. More of a Hacker here than a Golfer. Though I sometimes feel like I might be one if I get in double digits on 18 holes.

Edgewood is at Stateline, but the green fees are way too expensive ( like $200). Anyone have any advice for decent golf courses in the area?

Thanks

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Maybe I can help. Haven't played much in last 8 years or so, but was once badly addicted, once under a 7, have lived in the area a few different times for quite a while, and used to play 100 rounds a year (lots of 72 hole weekends when I lived in Tahoe City).

There are a LOT of good golf courses around here, and that's not counting the private ones. Edgewood is probably the most expensive and is spectacular (played it once in 1994 -- shot an 85 or 86 from the gold tees, I think), but Lake Tahoe Golf Course in south Lake Tahoe is very enjoyable, pretty, but crowded after mid June.

Dayton Valley is a great Arnold Palmer course about 10 miles east of Carson City. Genoa Lakes (I think it's still public) in Genoa -- just down the hill from South Lake Tahoe -- is also a great course. (There are actually two now -- one was called something else when it went in but recently became a part of the Genoa Lakes group).

Incline Village is also very good, also very crowded after mid-June -- 2 courses -- executive and championship; I prefered the latter.

Coyote Moon and Tahoe Donner in Truckee are both outstanding. Northstar is a very enjoyable and sometimes overlooked course -- affordable but challenging, it's basically 2 different courses: front nine is wide open, back nine is tight and in the trees.

Eagle Valley West in Carson City is challenging, and good, with carries over some open sage areas; the east course is much easier and less interesting.

Lakeridge in Reno is a must play -- 16th is a spectacular par 3 from way above down to a huge island green. It's the signature hole on a very good course, and that hole is one you'll never forget.

Wildcreek in Reno was very good, but they've periodically talked about taking it out, due to drought and other priorities, so I don't know its present status. Rosewood Lakes in Reno is an affordable but very good 18.

Northgate in west Reno is very challenging for its elevation changes and wind conditions. Back when the junior tour to the PGA tour was called the Hogan Tour, it hosted an annual tournament there. I recall Tom Lehman winning there, in fact.

Now that I mention it, anything in the Reno, Carson City, Genoa, Washoe Valley area can have a lot of wind. I moved to Monterey from Tahoe City (should tell you how badly I was bitten -- the ex and I both worked for Pebble Beach Company for a while) and I always got asked why my putting stance is so wide. The truth is that I adopted it for playing in wind, and decided to go with the same thing all the time.

I've left out a LOT of courses. This was already golf mecca when I was playing a lot, and many courses have been built since then. Head north out of Truckee on 89 to Graeagle, and you've got several more -- White Hawk, Plumas Pines, and Graeagle Meadows, etc.

I intend to rekindle the golf addiction now that I've moved back to this area. It's still more affordable here than most courses in California. BTW, I left out many of the lesser and more affordable courses -- whether because they're 9 hole tracks, or because they were only "good" -- I've mostly told you about those that I'd call very good or better.

If you're a golfer who comes to the Reno Tahoe area for a vacation, it'd be a sin against the golf gods not to bring your sticks.

 
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Thanks Rich :)

Let's do Lakeridge. I just took the virtual tour. Robert Trent Jones, Sr. designed course with lots of doglegs, elevation changes and bunkers.

HERE'S the hole tour.

LET THE FRUSTRATION BEGIN!!

I'm checking in on Thursday and leaving Saturday morning. The green fees are 10 bucks cheaper on Thursday than Friday. 85 VS 95 dead presidents.

I have an entourage with me. That being the SO, 3 kids. My two youngest would not play but the oldest would want to play.

Could be game for Thursday matinee or anytime Friday.

I'm going to be coming from Arkansas via Laguna Seca and Yosemite, so I'll get a good bunch of riding in the Sierra's before the gathering.

They also have an online tee reservation system. :)

 
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I'm definitely bringing the sticks. Plan on playing Redlands Mesa in Grand Junction, Wolf Creek in Mesquite, NV and Pebble Beach on my way to Laguna Seca.

:)

 
I'm definitely bringing the sticks. Plan on playing Redlands Mesa in Grand Junction, Wolf Creek in Mesquite, NV and Pebble Beach on my way to Laguna Seca.
Not sure if I'll play that WFO weekend, mostly because GF and I will be doing that weekend as a motorcycle event. Moreover, like I said, I almost don't play anymore -- I'm not kidding when I say I probably couldn't play to a 20 now -- need to take a month or two to get back into it, esp. to find a short game that is non-existent. But with Lakeridge, you picked one that really tempts me. I haven't played it in maybe 15 years, and really really enjoy that course.

What I really need to tell you, however, is about Pebble Beach. My ex and I moved there in the mid 90s and she worked in the Pebble Beach golf shop, managed the Pebble Beach Tennis Club and then worked in HR; I spent some time on the Spyglass greens crew. So, I'm giving you the skinny most people don't know.

Despite what a lot of people think, you cannot just come out and get on Pebble. Every day, there's someone sitting around the first tee HOPING someone doesn't show up so he can squeeze on as a single . . . because he could NOT get a starting time when he called ahead a couple weeks or month earlier. Maybe it's changed in the last few years, but I seriously doubt it. Here's what happens and how you do get on:

The typical pilgrim sets aside the $350 or whatever it now is in greens fees, decides he's gonna play this golf shrine, and calls way ahead to try to get a starting time. What he finds out is that they won't take a reservation that far in advance; they tell him to call 24 hours in advance. So, he dutifully sets his alarm the day before to make sure that at 6 am, he's on the phone with the Pebble Beach starters. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz, no dice, nothing available, and when he persists, they tell him that he can show up early the next morning and hope someone doesn't show up so he can get on. Not only does this almost never happen, but too frequently, if it does, some VERY rich couple with the tee time doesn't want to play with rabble, and pays the additional greens fees to be able to play alone. You'll understand in a second.

The way it works is that in order to get a starting time, you MUST stay at the Lodge at Pebble Beach, or at the Inn at Spanish Bay. These are both Pebble Beach Company properties, are extremely high end, and lodging rates reflect that. If you stay there, you get to make a tee time for Pebble wayyyy in advance and you even get a nominal (maybe $50) discount off your greens fees. Even doing this, it's essential that you get your reservations well in advance (I'd suggest doing it NOW) and make sure that you make reservations to play Pebble during your stay -- at the same time you make room reservations.

The Pebble Beach Company caters to the hideously wealthy, and if you have enough money, you will get your whims addressed. Technically, Pebble Beach Golf Links is a public course (anyone CAN get on), but most don't have the money (not JUST astronomical greens fees) to do that. Pebble Beach Company also owns Spyglass Hill G.L., Spanish Bay G.L. and Old Del Monte Golf Club. All three are great courses, with Old Del Monte being their lowest end product (still a great golf course). I'd highly recommend Spyglass or Spanish Bay if you can't get on Pebble. You are, however, talking about extremely difficult golf courses that put a premium on playing smart; an attempted heroic shot by a less than scratch golfer will result in a triple or worse, even though it isn't obvious at first that the risk is what it is.

I've played Pebble 8 or 9 times (ex played it maybe 15 times), Spyglass maybe 60 times, Spanish Bay maybe 10 or 12 times and Old Del Monte maybe 25 or 30 times. You're going to drool at this explanation. Don't know if it's still this way, but it used to be that every P.B. Co. employee had, as a benefit, the right to get a foursome on each of the company's 4 courses one time per month (a total of 4 rounds per month) after revenue. ("After revenue" means after the time when they can't guarantee that you'll get in 18 holes -- varies with season, but typically means beginning sometime around 2 to 4 pm. Most of the time, I got in 18, even if the last hole or two was in the twilight, and tough to see where you'd hit it.) The reality was that most employees never got on Pebble, because the after revenue times were all booked up when you'd call in. Note that between the ex and me, we had a potential for 8 comped foursomes per month.

My ex and I quit our professions (for a while), moved there to feed our golf addiction (we knew a few people there already), and while she was an 18 -20, I was a 7 to 10 during that time. We also bought unlimited annual passes at Rancho Canada at the mouth of Carmel Valley where we played when we weren't on the P.B. Co. courses -- obviously, I played or practiced nearly every day. When she got a job at P.B. Co., she worked in the Pebble Beach golf shop -- right next to the starters -- and got to know all the starters and pros pretty well. In fact, she used to make killer chocolate brownies which became very well known at each course's pro shop. As a result, she could get us on Pebble regularly. (Whenever we got on after revenue at any of the courses, the starters had come to expect that they would get a plate of brownies, and we both made a point of always bringing them -- I mean, the rewards were wayyyyy too good.)

It used to be funny when we'd tee off at Pebble, because the whole pro shop would come out and cheer her first tee shot -- made her feel self conscious and nearly whiff it, but it was funny how all the people milling around from all over the world wondered who the hell we were. But the very best part was this: it was a real gas to be able to comp friends from all over to play Pebble (or "the glass" or "the bay") with us -- for free! I still get a grin and shiver at recalling friends go gaga when the course (Pebble) would hit the ocean at 4, and then be even more in awe as we proceeded through the truly spectacular stretch from 7 - 10. (My highlight at Pebble was a birdie on 8 the first time I played it -- a hole I will always regard as the greatest and most unique hole in golf.) I digress.

Because I was in the "golf division" when I went to work on the course at Spyglass, I also got to play almost every day after work there. (The mechanic and I were both 7 or 8 handicaps at the time, and had a game going almost every day -- he used to like to catch me on a day where I'd had a weedeater in my hands all afternoon, though, since it usually meant I was going to be leaving everything out to the right after work, while putting money in his pocket.) I've been on the course and kept my mouth shut when people came through in NCGA zone tournaments and watched them take the predictable triple bogies from stupid shots that they could have gotten away with at their home courses. The key to these courses is to play every shot to spots (flat spots) from which to make your next shot (this is why caddies are popular there), especially your approaches into the greens. It's very subtle, but you just cannot be hitting from a sidehill lie into those greens with all the trouble there is there. Trust me -- I've mowed every green at Spyglass, and know ever undulation and tendency. Pebble has small greens and they all slope toward the ocean -- more than you will think the first time.

Anyway -- enough of the stroll down memory lane. Since I moved away in '97, I've probably played golf only a dozen times or so. I never thought I could give up something I loved that much or was that addicted to, but other things got in the way. I do intend to get back into it, but my memories are of being somewhat competent, and when I've played in the last few years, it's almost painful to hack as hard as I do.

Sounds like you're going to have one fun vacation next July!

 
How about I start building up a list here of possibilities? As it matures we could polish the list and ask Warchild to put them on the WFO-5 site. Also, if this wants to become an organized activity....a preferred course, preferred time, contact and organizer for tee time sign-ups, etc. we can go that way too. Somebody would have to step up and talk with Warchild.

I'd love to golf myself, but between being banquet organizer and holding a glimmer of hope for the track opportunity, I can't do it myself.

How about I get it started though with courses I've found in Reno near the Hilton. See Golfcourse.com

Lakeridge $80/$95 (Week/Weekend). This course was voted as the best in Reno for ten consecutive years. The signature hole is #15, a 239-yard, par 3, featuring a tee box sitting 120 yards above a lake, and requiring a tee shot to an island green. 5 miles from Hilton. Golfcourse.com rating: 3.4 out of 5.

Wolf Run Golf Club at Fieldcreek Ranch $45. Semi-private course. This is the home course for the University of Nevada golf team. The layout offers a challenging and enjoyable round for all abilities. The main hazard is water. Whites Creek runs through eight holes, including twice through #6, a 361-yard, par 4. Steamboat ditch and small ponds also create water hazards on fifteen of the eighteen holes. Other obstacles include huge rocks and outcroppings, as well as numerous new and mature trees. The greens on the course are fast and undulating. The fairways are open on tee shots, however, there are few flat lies due to the rolling terrain. The signature hole is #15, a 525-yard, par 5, featuring a slight dogleg left fairway. Water, which surrounds the hole on three sides, is a major factor. A breathtaking view of Mount Rose is visible from this hole. The 6,086-yard men's tee also has a ladies' course rating of 73.4 and a slope of 130. 10 miles from Hilton. 4.1 out of 5.

Northgate Golf Club $48. This links-style course was built in the desert. The greens are fast and undulating, and the fairways are hilly and open. There is hardly a flat lie available anywhere on this course. Many holes have natural desert vegetation coming into play, translating into shots over hazard areas. This is a very tough course, so be prepared to use every club in your bag. 9 miles from Hilton. 3.5 out of 5.

Rosewood Lakes Golf Course $33. This course was built on reclaimed swampland. It is located on an ecological preserve and you are not allowed to chase your ball into the wetland areas. This is a very demanding course because if you don't hit the ball straight, you will end up in the wetlands. The fairways are flat and open, and the greens are medium in size and speed. There is water that comes into play on every hole. 7 miles from Hilton. 3.3 out of 5.

Washoe Golf Course $19. The oldest golf facility in Reno, this course's fairways are fairly flat and wide open. The course has small greens, and many of the trees which line its fairways can affect your shots. The course recently put in their own well and million-dollar sprinkler system, which is important because Reno has had water problems over the last several years. This will insure that the course stays green throughout the year. 4 miles from Hilton. 2.8 out of 5.

 
Hmmm, I can bring my sticks or I can bring my wife. Tough call. Better go with the wife. My driver just pulled up with a broken face, and since I can't afford anything but farkles and bike upkeep, I probably won't have a new one by then anyway. Speaking of faces, Brenda, on the other hand, should be out of her braces by then. Besides, too many great rides to get in on.

 
Hmmmm, time to consider a trailer?  Send your sticks by Greyhound?  Plan on returning for a "Golf Weekend"? :p
I'm thinking the third option would be best. Maybe even before WFO-5. I could easily be up there by noon, with plenty of time for a round before dark. Then some pizza and off to dad's place for some sleep and head home the next day, scenic route. Not that I didn't think of shipping them ahead, but it seems like such a hassle, what with transporting them around and getting them back home. It'll just have to be a bike weekend for me. I checked my '06 schedule and my four days off cycle falls on July 27-30th. It's destiny!

 
@Ignacio

I don't know if there is enough interest to try to get a tourney going. I have a bit of an entourage to tend to on this trip with this being the summer vacation for me and my fambly.

However, if you decide to get one together, I think that Lakeridge would be a good deal all things considered.

IMHO

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