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Vets: to get to the point see the last paragraph.

When I was a kid, I had a licensed aviary and I raised Cockatiels and sold them to pet stores. I also raised a clutch of Magpies because some of the neighborhood kids killed the parents for that nest so I raised 5 Magpies from fetherless to flying and eventually independence (although they came back from time to time for the next 25 years).

Now, 28 years later I find I am caring for this:

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It was midnight that night. The little guy is a Scrub Jay and my cats brought it home. They had it down and out and as I was about to put it out of its misery, something about the way it was breathing told me to pick it up and check it out. Upon inspection, not a drop of blood had been spilled and they just had the poor guy exhausted. I took him and he didn't fight at all. I brought him inside and got some water down his throat because I was sure the energy he spent could have dehydrated him. I then put an egg on to boil and later fed him some hard boiled egg yolk mixed with water.

The next morning I went looking for a nest. I couldn't find it. I know there is a limited amount of time before you simply can't bring a chick back to the nest so I was pretty worried. My cats must have travelled a distance for this bird. Now I'm on day three. I've been feeding it every 30-45 minutes and now it seems to enjoy nothing more than sitting on my shoulder, leaning on my head and sleeping as I type and talk on conference calls. Luckily, my job is performed from home.

I am worried about his wing. It is drooping and while all my comparisons with the other wing indicate to me that it is in joint and that the bones are firm (not broken), it still droops. I think he just has a sprain or something, but I cannot be sure. So now I set out to find a vet to look at him. They say they cannot look at a wildlife bird and referred me to animal rescue places. I called one and they asked, "A Scrub Jay? Why did you bother to save it at that point?" I didn't bother answering their question and went to the next number.

Okay, so I want to keep this bird, but I don't want to have it go untreated. Sorry to hold the law in disdain, but it wouldn't be against the law for me to put the thing out of its misery, so it shouldn't be a problem to let this guy grow up in an environement where it can have positve social interraction with similar species. The FJR is my wings and it's blue...we both have blue wings. Okay, that was corny...but I know birds pretty darn well and I know they can be happy living with humans. It just means we are cleaning ALL THE TIME. Birds are messy and, well, all you can do is clean.

Anyway...to the point: There is this drooping wing. The skin underneath is bruised and swollen and red in color instead of the pink on the other wing. The joints seem correct, and the bones do not move (From end to end the bones are not pliable) at all when manipulated. I'm hoping it's a sprain, but I cannot be sure. I would like a vet to look at it, but I wonder: what would the vet do if it was broken? Would they just wrap it by going all the way around the body and both wings? If so, how long? Anyone know any vets in the Sacramento region that wouldn't mind taking a look and giving me advice? The rehab people are awesome, but they already have enough to deal with, and frankly, I'd rather have a real avian vet look at this guy...

Anyway..any help would be appreciated.

 
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Try calling a local pet hospital and asking for advice. I was in one yesterday and they gave it away happily, and seemed to know where to direct the people who called while I was in the waiting room. Personally, I would contact the local Wildlife Rehab folks and talk to them first.

It's tough to keep a pet that your other pets want to kill. Good on ya for the effort. :good: Every life matters, to the one that is in possession of it at the time. To that Scrub Jay, you're The Savior.

 
Try calling a local pet hospital and asking for advice. I was in one yesterday and they gave it away happily, and seemed to know where to direct the people who called while I was in the waiting room. Personally, I would contact the local Wildlife Rehab folks and talk to them first.
It's tough to keep a pet that your other pets want to kill. Good on ya for the effort. :good: Every life matters, to the one that is in possession of it at the time. To that Scrub Jay, you're The Savior.
Yeah, I'm bringing him to the stupid wildlife rescue chumps that say that if the wing won't heal, "euthenasia" is an option.

That kinda pisses me off and if the wing was really bad, I'd keep him. I feel that the wing can be saved and they raise them to release them. That's the best option. However, I gave them the option of giving it back to me if killing it was their choice and they said that is illegal. Well, some laws are stupid. I'm not into PITA or anything quite that extreme, but I sure appreciate that life has many roads and sometimes a road of being take care of by humans is an animal's best option.

I worry that giving him over will result in his death when I'm sure he could be pretty happy with me...I guess I'm taking a chance with his life to save his wing that might heal by iteself anyway. I hate decisions like this, and believe me, the law has very little (none) to do with my decision on this one.

 
I worry that giving him over will result in his death when I'm sure he could be pretty happy with me...I guess I'm taking a chance with his life to save his wing that might heal by iteself anyway. I hate decisions like this, and believe me, the law has very little (none) to do with my decision on this one.
Well then, tough call.

If you want to pack him down this way, I have a hookup that could circumvent the "establishment", and it doesn't involve BBQ sauce.

Or, you could wrap the wing for a while, then see how it goes. No improvement, let him hop around in a birdcage, safe from the other pets. Predators are the only problem for flightless birds, and flying is only necessary to escape them and find food. If you're willing to offer room & board, he's got a long, happy life ahead....

 
Just in case you mislaid the paper.....pm rocketdoc....he's a vet up here in the Great White North....

 
I then put an egg on to boil and later fed him some hard boiled egg yolk mixed with water
What's wrong with the BBQ mix? You've already made him a canibal :eek:

The WWR here would take him as they turn nothing away. I can't believe that the almighty rescue of Kalifornia with all the granolaberries there would even consider euthanasia.

 
Andrew, the SPCA on Florin-Perkins Rd. has a section devoted to birds and have had a couple of "write-ups" in a local "major metropolitan newspaper". I once dropped off some Scrubjay chicks there. They have a number of volunteers who raise the chicks by hand and set them loose.

You might give them a call. 383-7387

 
I then put an egg on to boil and later fed him some hard boiled egg yolk mixed with water
What's wrong with the BBQ mix? You've already made him a canibal :eek:
Oh, let me specify: [SIZE=14pt]Chicken[/SIZE] Egg Yolk

I didn't go hunt down Scrub Jay egg yolk and make him eat it. ;)

Now here's a quote from the WhatBird Bird Guide:

Western Scrub-Jay: Diet consists of insects, grains, small lizards, frogs, fruits, and eggs and young of other birds; forages in trees and on the ground.

https://identify.whatbird.com/obj/108/behav..._Scrub-Jay.aspx

Notice they say "young of [SIZE=14pt]other[/SIZE] birds."

They aren't cannibalistic at all :)

 
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I then put an egg on to boil and later fed him some hard boiled egg yolk mixed with water
What's wrong with the BBQ mix? You've already made him a canibal :eek:
Oh, let me specify: [SIZE=14pt]Chicken[/SIZE] Egg Yolk

I didn't go hunt down Scrub Jay egg yolk and make him eat it. ;)

Now here's a quote from the WhatBird Bird Guide:

Western Scrub-Jay: Diet consists of insects, grains, small lizards, frogs, porterhouse steaks, Tanqueray gin, fruits, gays, queers, and eggs and young of other birds; forages in trees, San Fransisco Parks, and on the ground.

https://identify.whatbird.com/obj/108/behav..._Scrub-Jay.aspx

Notice they say "young of [SIZE=14pt]other[/SIZE] birds."

They aren't cannibalistic at all :)
Altered and repaired.

 
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Veterinarian for the bird????? Being that your cats didn't eat that thing, I'd be taking them to the vet to see what's wrong with them.

 
Ahhh yessss,

The oh so sensitive FJR crowd rear their heads again! :wacko:

OV, for one I am very pleased to hear that you've taken on a new pet. I have pet birds myself but I'm sorry that I can't give any advice as to the care of the Jay's injured wing.

Good luck in your quest for info. Please keep me posted as to how things go.

Heidi

 
Actually, anyone who knows Andrew would expect nothing less. He even took in Tdub once after finding him under a bridge. Again. He doesn't give up, even on huffers......... :rolleyes:

 
Actually, anyone who knows Andrew would expect nothing less. He even took in Tdub once after finding him under a bridge. Again. He doesn't give up, even on huffers......... :rolleyes:
Who do I know that's a huffer? I'm gonna give up on that person right there. :rolleyes:

 
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