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No Card, No MONEY, the vaults on these babys are TUFF.

Just another Friday night in the city. :drinks:

 
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used to be we just tipped over outside toilets for Halloween.
Looks like a whole 'nother level there.
Oh Man! Another level? You sure are right. How friggin gross is it to tip over a porta potty? Oh my freekin GOD! You all were SICK!!! ;)

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What's worse, tipping over something where some poor menial laborer will have to clean up human **** and piss or tip over something that costs the bank about .009% of the money they make on Foreign ATM fees? Hopefully that bank is self insured and pays for it themselves so other people's insurance rates don't go up.

just kidding...I see the monetary difference, but somehow the thought of driving a truck that delivers porta potties and finding one upturned is really worse than shockingly revolting. Couldn't you just tape them shut with duct tape when someone went in one?

 
Friend of mine used to design ATM machines and vaults, and HELL YES they are TUFF. Trying to break into one of them is pretty much a waste of time. I have seen several cases where criminals have taken the entire machine with them to try and work on it in private. They are usually caught while still working on the things, weeks and weeks later.

 
Until recently I was a manager at an ATM monitoring call center for a bank that has the third largest ATM network in the country. For a while a group was going around hijacking construction equipment from construction sites near ATMs. The result is usually what you see there. It's no fun getting a call at 2am because the alarm went off and alerted the security center. This could be the same group or another has caught on from all the publicity a knocked over ATM tends to generate.

The payoff on this kind of endeavor can be huge! Upwards $160k if it's fully loaded. Or it can be a bust. One band of thieves stole an ATM from a major sporting arena during the off season. The payoff was exactly $0.00 dollars. That was the one thing they didn't take into consideration.

Most attempted ATM robberies are just that, attempts. Few are successful. Those that are are very well planned or use a system that 'works'. Like heavy equipment. Banks absolutely do not like to see or read news stories about attempted ATM robberies.

One guy (we're pretty sure it was one guy) was actually successful in torching his way into the vault on his second try. His first attempt was interupted becuase we sent a locksmith to investigate the lock he jammed shut.

Another small amateur group stole an ATM from the State Fair. The locating beacon led the cops to the backyard of one of the culprits. Poor bastards never managed to get in the safe to see that the ATM was empty, because the State Fair had actually ended a few days before. That ATM wasn't ours but it made the news.

The ATMs themselves are about $70k not including install. So at $2 a pop for non-customer use fee, an ATM will have to do over 35,000 non-customer fee generating transactions before it 'breaks even'.

Some people like to go the direct route. Summer of '06 an armored car guard who had been on the job for 6 months shot his partner in the head and hijacked his own truck. Sad thing is that both of the guards were people that my group spoke to on a regular basis. It's weird knowing one is dead because of the other and that guy is going to jail.

 
"How friggin gross is it to tip over a porta potty?"

I'm not talking porta potty here youngster - I'm talking about the real, old-fashioned outdoor toilets.

You know, the kind people had before indoor plumbing - AKA "The Outhouse"?

 
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