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BBAR

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Well this actually happened last Saturday the 14th. I was hosting my monthly Concours Owners group Meet & Greet. Afterwards if the weather is nice, we try to go for a ride. So I lead a couple of bikes on a nice trip towards one of the riders home. He was 2+ hours from home. So I figured I would cut down his ride home when our ride is over.

So were heading along rt 9D which runs along the Hudson river, for the first part of the journey. Well all of a sudden a Honda Civic coming the other way makes a left turn 20 feet or so in front of me. I can't go right since that is her direction and I'm in the left side of the lane. She has the lane totally blocked and there are cars behind her in the on coming lane. So I contorted quite a bit and kissed my butt good-bye. Some how I managed to run down the double yellow to try to avoid her car. I almost made it but wound up hitting the back of her car since my bike was somewhat on a left angel trying to maneuver around her.. I caught the right upper fairing (under the mirror) on her rear tail light. The lower fairing hit the bumper. The slider hit the side of her bumper and followed it around the bumper which kicked the bike out to the left side.

When the bike kicked out, it saved my right leg from striking the car as well as the rest of the bike hitting. I was lucky that I managed to keep control and not go down or into the oncoming cars. I pulled over at the other end of the parking area where they were going canoeing! The other riders made it through OK, but dealt with their own emergency maneuvers.

The young girl of 20 was more shaken up than I was. So I actually tried to calm her down, even though she could have killed me and possible the guys behind me. She admitted that it was totally her fault, but I don't think the police officer gave her a ticket. My bike will be getting a new upper cowling. But the lower cowling seems to be just marked and will probably buff out. The slider and directional have a slight mark in them, but I also think that they will be usable.

IMO, the slider actually saved my butt here. And the bike didn't even go down. I will attribute this to the fact that obviously she didn't see me/us. Over the last 5+ years I have been conducting an experiment. On my last few bikes I have been paying attention to how many people pull in front of me when I don't use a headlight modulator. I have found that the number of people is unbelievable when I don't use a headlight modulator. But as soon as I install one on the bike, the instances almost totally stop. I did this on the last three bikes now. People are constantly pulling in front of me at an alarming rate. Then once I install the modulator, it almost totally stops. I obviously still have to ride defensively because every once and a while, it still could happen.

Now fast forward to the new FJR. I didn't have a modulator on the bike. It was brand new and I took it to a Vermont Rally for the Concours Owners Group. That week of the rally and my own extended personal rally, I again found quite a few incidents and close calls. Then a few days after I get back, this happens, which I truly consider more than an incident. I already had new higher output bulbs on order to install with the modulator. I guess they didn't get here soon enough! So here is the bike already smacked up with 1,400 miles on her. But I can make her new again, plus a little extra farkle money courtesy of Progressive!

Bob

 
I'm so glad you survived that I'm going to ask a dumb question. What is a headlight modulator? Sounds like it could be an important next addition.

 
Glad you came out uninjured. Sucks for the bike, though. I agree on the high incident of cars pulling in front of bikes. I will have to consider getting a modulator.

 
Glad you came out of that encounter in one piece!

I'm so glad you survived that I'm going to ask a dumb question. What is a headlight modulator? Sounds like it could be an important next addition.
It modulates the brightness of your headlights repeatedly so that you're noticed.

 
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Ummm... no. Actually it just turns the intensity of the high beam bulb up and down repeatedly by modulating the drive power.

Switching the high low relay at that rate would be a recipe for relay failure in no time.

Sucks that you got smacked, BBAR. Couple of questions for you:

Were your high beams on?

I know you have a '10 so your bike is a stealthy silver color.

What color helmet and riding jacket do you wear?

Did she have a turn signal on?

Why on earth did she not get a ticket? She was clearly in violation of your right of way.

 
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Sorry to hear you get banged around, but very glad you were uninjured and no one else was hurt either.

I put a Kisan PathBlazer modulator on my bike earlier this spring. I have gotten MANY comments from tollbooth attendants to cagers at stop lights that "there's something wrong with your headlight" or as recent as today I had a guy pull up next to me and tell me that my stator must be going because my headlight keeps flickering. It DOES get you noticed. Between that, my Hyperlites (brakes cause 5-second flash then solid on) and my Hi-Viz Roadcrafter, I make an impression...as long as the cagers are not eyes-down texting or fiddling with the radio/nav system. Nothing can protect you from a driver who isn't looking.

 
Ummm... no. Actually it just turns the intensity of the high beam bulb up and down repeatedly by modulating the drive power. Switching the high low relay at that rate would be a recipe for relay failure in no time.
Fixed. I was probably more focused on the outward appearance rather than the actual technical mumbo jumbo when posting. ;)

 
...Why on earth did she not get a ticket? She was clearly in violation of your right of way.
Yeah...this is a big deal to me. Remorse or not, she deserves to have that on her record...and for assistance when you are dealing with the damage to your bike.

 
...Why on earth did she not get a ticket? She was clearly in violation of your right of way.
Yeah...this is a big deal to me. Remorse or not, she deserves to have that on her record...and for assistance when you are dealing with the damage to your bike.
She didn't get a ticket because it was only one of those damn annoying bikers that she almost killed. No harm done. :angry2:

 
Ummm... no. Actually it just turns the intensity of the high beam bulb up and down repeatedly by modulating the drive power. Switching the high low relay at that rate would be a recipe for relay failure in no time.

Sucks that you got smacked, BBAR. Couple of questions for you:

Were your high beams on?

I know you have a '10 so your bike is a stealthy silver color.

What color helmet and riding jacket do you wear?

Did she have a turn signal on?

Why on earth did she not get a ticket? She was clearly in violation of your right of way.

Headlights on high. I'm not sure about the two other bikes right behind me.

Silver helmet.

Black & Silver TourMaster Intake.

No turn signal, just pulled across at the last second. I think it came up on her quick.

Why she didn't get a ticket is beyond me. Maybe she did and I didn't see it. But she was very pretty! :rolleyes:

 
...Why on earth did she not get a ticket? She was clearly in violation of your right of way.
Yeah...this is a big deal to me. Remorse or not, she deserves to have that on her record...and for assistance when you are dealing with the damage to your bike.
She didn't get a ticket because it was only one of those damn annoying bikers that she almost killed. No harm done. :angry2:

Actually the police officer is a rider. He suggested that we get headlight modulators! :rolleyes:

 
I would point out every little scratch to the adjuster and ask him to include new parts and labor for everything. If your mirror got scratched or hit then you may have a bent stay - the piece under the plastic that the mirror attaches to. And don't forget your gear. Anything even slightly damaged should be on the list.

Once you get the check you can decide what you want to actually replace or buff out.

 
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Sorry to hear you get banged around, but very glad you were uninjured and no one else was hurt either.
I put a Kisan PathBlazer modulator on my bike earlier this spring. I have gotten MANY comments from tollbooth attendants to cagers at stop lights that "there's something wrong with your headlight" or as recent as today I had a guy pull up next to me and tell me that my stator must be going because my headlight keeps flickering. It DOES get you noticed. Between that, my Hyperlites (brakes cause 5-second flash then solid on) and my Hi-Viz Roadcrafter, I make an impression...as long as the cagers are not eyes-down texting or fiddling with the radio/nav system. Nothing can protect you from a driver who isn't looking.

Im new here, never heard of these, but they sound great. Where can we get one of these? How much? And are these easy to install? Can I get some help on this great safety item from the vets here?

THANKS

 
Ummm... no. Actually it just turns the intensity of the high beam bulb up and down repeatedly by modulating the drive power. Switching the high low relay at that rate would be a recipe for relay failure in no time.

Sucks that you got smacked, BBAR. Couple of questions for you:

Were your high beams on?

I know you have a '10 so your bike is a stealthy silver color.

What color helmet and riding jacket do you wear?

Did she have a turn signal on?

Why on earth did she not get a ticket? She was clearly in violation of your right of way.

Headlights on high. I'm not sure about the two other bikes right behind me.

Silver helmet.

Black & Silver TourMaster Intake.

No turn signal, just pulled across at the last second. I think it came up on her quick.

Why she didn't get a ticket is beyond me. Maybe she did and I didn't see it. But she was very pretty! :rolleyes:
Highbeams on, check!

Silver bike, helmet and jacket... not so good. Silver (aka shiny gray) is one of the absolute worst colors for visibility. Might want to reconsider your stylin'.

Being a pretty w/ a male cop: priceless (or at least ticketless). I'd definitely go after the bimbo for the damages, or at least sick my ins co on her.

 
Hello BBAR and welcome to the FJR forum. I remember you from the concours forum and distinctly remember the KiPASS saga. Sorry to hear about your encounter and glad you're safe. I have had a modulator on my bike for years and it gets the attention of motorist for sure. Cagers Will frequently move out of the way thinking you are a cop. Get yours installed ASAP. I also agree with bright helmets and jackets, although "black" is way more cool. You are an experienced rider and I am sure you've heard it all before. Sam

 
Glad you're ok.

Un-freaking-believable little miss ****-for-brains didn't get a ticket. Upset or not, I think I would have been chewing some serious ***. One thing for sure to get me to lose my temper: Idiots who jeopardize my safety.

As for the modulator, I suppose if I had the problems you have I would consider one, but in several hundred thousand miles of riding I have never had someone pull a left in front of me. (Knocking on serious wood)

 
Whew, Glad you are ok.

I disagree on the use of highbeams during the daylight. Several studies and my own cage experience say it's harder to judge a vehicle (primarily motorcycles) approaching speed and distance. They look farther and slower than they really are due to the blinding effect of the bright lights.

Personally I feel if they can't see both headlights and yellow running lights they most likely won't see you at all. Scary, huh?

I do understand the thinking behind modulating headlights but I find them damn annoying IMHO

 
Whew, Glad you are ok.
I disagree on the use of highbeams during the daylight. Several studies and my own cage experience say it's harder to judge a vehicle (primarily motorcycles) approaching speed and distance. They look farther and slower than they really are due to the blinding effect of the bright lights.

Personally I feel if they can't see both headlights and yellow running lights they most likely won't see you at all. Scary, huh?

I do understand the thinking behind modulating headlights but I find them damn annoying IMHO
Daytime high beam use has been discussed ad nauseam. It comes down to this: Having (possibly) increased conspicuousness vs. (possibly) less ability for drivers to gauge your oncoming speed, or (possibly) pissing off some other drivers.

I'd personally rather have a pissed off driver that actually sees me, even if he can't accurately judge my speed, than one that happily doesn't even see me. Everyone buys a ticket and spins the wheel...

 
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