California Propositions

[motorgod]

This is a political post, so if you don't live in CA feel free to go on, but if you do live in CA this proposition directly affects you!

Proposition 75 should be titled "THE PAYCHECK DECEPTION ACT".

Proposition 75 has nothing to do with protecting your paycheck. Right now, unions and associations have tried to level the playing field in the world of politics by being able to use our funds to fight off these attacks every year on our pensions and benefits. Even with that ability to use our funds, business outspends us by a 24-to-1 margin!

What Proposition 75 does is to nearly eliminate our ability to use those funds. It forces a bureaucratic process full of red tape on us so we have to spend an enormous amount of time trying to raise the money to be used to fight for our rights. Proposition 75 destroys that level playing field, making it easier for anti-labor folks to come after your pensions, benefits and, ultimately, all those rights and protections that labor has worked so hard to obtain.

The proponents of Proposition 75 are anti-government crusaders and big business special interests who want to silence your voice! In states where similar measures to Prop 75 have passed, union PAC’s are 1/20th of their former levels.

Proposition 75 is the first step of a politically motivated two step plan. Once they’ve taken away your PAC, and destroyed your ability to fight on a level playing field, they’ve silenced your voice. The second step of the plan is to demolish the current pension system – as clearly evidenced by Governor Schwarzenegger’s blatant proclamation that pension privatization will be on the June 2006 statewide ballot and Assemblyman Richman’s midnight introduction of ACA 23. After that, their plan undoubtedly includes radically reducing your benefits and then probably coming after all the rights and benefits we’ve spent years obtaining

If you care anything about having a pension after you have worked thirty years, you will TALK TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND ASK THEM TO VOTE "NO ON 75".

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GET THE VOTE OUT

Click on the link for more information No on 75

 

[DrEvil777]

+1

And remember, Doctors aren't supposed to talk politics!

 

[madmike2]

Gee, and I thought Prop 75 was about unions forcing there members to pay dues then using that money for whatever political cause or race wheteher the union member agrees or not. I didn't realize there was wording in the Proposition that says union members can't willingly contribute to any political cause they wanted and that unions would have to report to their members exactly what the member's moneys were being used for.

I suppose this would empower to member to think for themselves and be allowed to dissent. And we all know that dissent is a terrible thing. I can see that it would be a good thing to be forced to join a union to get a particular job then have my membership dues used for causes not politically agreed with....all for the good of the respondent, of course.

Of course unions are about protecting their members rights against undue requirements, training their particular trade/profession in the skills necessary to perform that job, and providing retirement from a percentage of the wages the employers pay. I'm glad that unions have resisted the urge to become protected PACs and involve the millions of dollars that members have paid in political fights. I suppose defined as I have, that would come close to coercion or "taxation" without representaion.

The above is only my opinion, as I haven't read the language of the Proposition. I know there have been lawsuits in other states prohibiting unions from forceably extracting union members moneys and using them in causes the member doesn't agree with. I assumed that is what this proposition was addressing.

I'm wondering what would prohibit any individual from donating to a party or political race?

 

[dkirk]

:agent: I have looked at the prop. 75 and I am voting in favor . I am sick and tired of my union dictating how my union dues will be spent. Unions shouldnt have the right to take someones earning without my permission and give it to some political hack or immoral cause.. Right now unions control both sides of the negotiating table. Time to turn the tide back to some common sence.

VOTE yes on 74, 75, 76, and 77.

Power to the People.

Thanks, Dan in Yucaipa Ca.

 

[HIGHLANDER]

And I believe it also reworks teacher tenure. After two years a teacher has attained tenure, and can't be fired without a huge pain in the azz procedure. How many parent / teacher conferences have you guys attended where you think " how the hell did this moron get hired ? "

What other proffesion can you never ( almost ) be fired from after only two years service?

Don't get me started on the dues thing either... well written MM2.

 

[motorgod]

:agent: I have looked at the prop. 75 and I am voting in favor . I am sick and tired of my union dictating how my union dues will be spent. Unions shouldnt have the right to take someones earning without my permission and give it to some political hack or immoral cause.. Right now unions control both sides of the negotiating table. Time to turn the tide back to some common sence.VOTE yes on 74, 75, 76, and 77.

Power to the People.

Thanks, Dan in Yucaipa Ca.

I'm sorry Dan, but you already are protected. The United States Supreme Court ruled in the Hudson case that you cannot be forced to contribute to your Political Action Committee (PAC), and that your union must account for all political contributions. This proposition is simply unnecessary.

Please be informed before you vote. Your profile does not shed any light on your business or profession. If you are a union member, then your dues are paying for your board members to negotiate a contract for you. Are you going to tell me that your wages and benefits have not improved and are better than what the employer is offering? Remember, you always have the right to reject a contract proposal. Are you saying that you could do better on your own? The reason why we have such a high-standard of living is a direct result of union negotiations.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say about unions controlling both sides of the table. If that is how you feel, do you think your job would be better if the employer controlled the table? That will be the result if 75 wins.

Think about it.

 

[motorgod]

And I believe it also reworks teacher tenure. After two years a teacher has attained tenure, and can't be fired without a huge pain in the azz procedure. How many parent / teacher conferences have you guys attended where you think " how the hell did this moron get hired ? "What other proffesion can you never ( almost ) be fired from after only two years service?

Don't get me started on the dues thing either... well written MM2.

Highlander, Prop 74 changes the teacher tenure. Please be informed.

Thanks.

YES ON 75

 

[dkirk]

B) I have belonged to 3 unions in my life span . A Carpenters union 944 out of San Bernadino who now is controlled by a mexican Illegal sympathetic structure old boy network. Good luck on getting work if your white and dont kiss ***. They helped my wages to go down from $26 an hr to $18 a hr when I finally gave up on it. The Boilerworkers union international who destroyed Kaiser Steel out of Fontana because they wouldn,t allow workers to take a $1 dollar a hr cut in pay to try and help a steel mill in financial trouble from international compatention and low wage labor. And now I work for the county Hospital where most workers are worthless and get more days off than even the kids in school get and all they do is complan because they have to do something to justify the time they are at work. The clientail is 85% Illegals and if it wasent for the Federal Gov. paying for it all it would of been history before the doors even opened 8 years ago . Unions used to be good for hard working Americans 20 to 25 years ago but now it just protects the con artists and the people who make outragious benifits and wages but could,t make it out in the real world. Unions have never offered me training or taken time to listen to anyones concerns and complaints or offered the option to op-out my union dues to there Corrupt politicians or immoral programs.

If I had a option I would not be a union member and be confident I would have a job because I have allways worked hard and did a good job.

Till they fix the real problem of the Illegal invasion. 3.5 million a year. All is a lie. where is common sence any more.?

Thanks,Dan yes on 73,74,75,76 and 77 No on 78 and 79