Caliper seal kits

[Ack535]

OK guys, so I went for a ride on staurday and noticed my front brake calipers hanging up on my 2005 FJR-Non ABS. Rotors were warm to the touch, but not hot.

Pulled the calipers off today.

Where is the best place (read least expensive) to get relacement caliper seal kits from? Also, should I replace my caliper pistons as well?

Pete

 

[wfooshee]

Clean the pistons, and unless they're gouged up somehow, they'll be fine.

ronayers.com has OEM parts at good prices.

Each seal kit comes with 4 seals, enough for one pair of pistons. There are two different kits because there are two sizes of pistons. You need 2 of each kit altogether, just in case you weren't sure.

It's still gonna be over a 100 bucks, maybe up around 130, for them 16 round rubber doo-dads.

 

[Ack535]

Thanks Wfooshee. I cam across complete sets of new seals and pistons for about $110 from the UK on e bay. I was hoping to find something in the US cheaper.

I did pull all of my pistons out today and cleaned them really well,cleaned the calipers really well, and was I tempted to re-assemble. But since she is all apart, it is well worth my time to get new seals put in... Just looking for a good source on the parts.

Thanks!

 

[Constant Mesh]

These guys may have pretty good prices for OE parts.

https://www.yamahasportscenter.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=679069&category=motorcycles&make=YAMAHA&year=2005&fveh=18061

 

[Ack535]

Went with RonAyers.com

Prices were about the same, RonAyers.com had good customer service. All total $182 out the door with shipping and anew set of OEM brake pads.

Bad part is I have to wait around 7 days to get them in...

Pete

 

[SkooterG]

$182 - ouch!

I always price check Ron Ayers along with 3 or 4 other vendors and never buy from them. Whenever I go shopping, they just aren't the cheapest out there.

For anyone else reading this, price check the following:

cyclepartswarehouse.com

YamahaSportsCenter.com (as linked above by ConsantMesh)

YamahaSportsPlaza.com

 

[TripperMike]

These guys may have pretty good prices for OE parts.
https://www.yamahasportscenter.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=679069&category=motorcycles&make=YAMAHA&year=2005&fveh=18061

Figured I would give this thread a bump as others might be considering this same maintenance chore as I. Just paid $84 including shipping.

Bike has oodles of miles on it and I found the brakes to be a bit sticky last summer. Tried cleaning them best I could without disassembling the calipers, but I wasn't satisfied with the outcome.

Now to run back to Google and shop for brake lines....time to replace them as well.

 

[wfooshee]

Lines don't go bad. No reason to replace lines unless you just want stainless steel for some reaon. Some folks say they feel better.

New pads, new seals, change the fluid, all of that. But there is not "time to replace lines."

 

[Panman]

I just serviced all the calipers on my 07 at 62,000 miles as I was hearing a bit of noise when I pulled the front brake. What I found was one pad on the left hand side was just about to the metal and the rest were still at fifty percent.

IMHO what causes the pads to drag is that the pistons get deposits on them as the pads wear leaving more of the piston exposed. I think that this crud hangs up a bit on the outer seal causing a bit of drag.

I didn't buy new seals as they weren't leaking and after good visual inspection they looked fine. They did have some of that crud in the slight groove that is molded in cleaning them was a bit tedious as you can't soak them in any type of solvent (I just wet my rag with brake fluid) and re-installed.

Happy to report no leaks and no dragging.

 

[Fred W]

Lines don't go bad. No reason to replace lines unless you just want stainless steel for some reaon. Some folks say they feel better.
New pads, new seals, change the fluid, all of that. But there is not "time to replace lines."

Not so, according to Yamaha. This from the factory service manual, general maintenance and lubrication chart notes:

Every two years replace the internal components of the brake and clutch master cylinders, caliper

cylinders and clutch release cylinder, and change the brake and clutch fluid.

Replace the brake and clutch hoses every four years and if cracked or damaged.

 

[Harald]

I just serviced all the calipers on my 07 at 62,000 miles as I was hearing a bit of noise when I pulled the front brake. What I found was one pad on the left hand side was just about to the metal and the rest were still at fifty percent.IMHO what causes the pads to drag is that the pistons get deposits on them as the pads wear leaving more of the piston exposed. I think that this crud hangs up a bit on the outer seal causing a bit of drag.

I didn't buy new seals as they weren't leaking and after good visual inspection they looked fine. They did have some of that crud in the slight groove that is molded in cleaning them was a bit tedious as you can't soak them in any type of solvent (I just wet my rag with brake fluid) and re-installed.

Happy to report no leaks and no dragging.

I have the same pad wear pattern on my 07 also, Kevin. Which is why I started a pad rotation schedule on each front tire change. Hopefully they'll wear out as a set now.

I'm on my 3rd set of pads with 69,000 miles on the bike now. The 2nd set were Carbonne Lorraine pads that had the one pad on the left side down to metal in 13,000 miles and also grooved the rotors (unrelated to the one pad down to metal) and wore them down below minimum spec! Back to oem for me!

I should note that I always pull the pads from the top, remove the caliper, extend the pistons onto a piece of wood and thoroughly clean the caliper before pushing the pistons back in their bores. Despite this, there's still that uneven wear on the left caliper pads. Can't explain it, but I'll just work around it with pad rotation.

 

[RaYzerman19]

At 84k kms. (52k miles), have one pair of pistons on the left side sticking, wore out the inside set of pads to metal, outer pads were good. Grooved the rotor, beyond repair. I put in some used pads to finish out last fall. Winter project is to replace the seals, clean up the pistons, got a used set of rotors a while back, new pads, make sure the pivots are clean, etc.

 

[Panman]

Harald, easy to tell that your a every day rider. Your on your third set at 69,000 and I just changed mine for the first time at 62,000. My miles are all vacation and I know you ride to work, those are hard miles on brakes. I was thinking about the pad rotation myself.

 

[dcarver]

I was thinking about the pad rotation myself.

3, 2, 1.... :rofl:

 

[Denver_FJR]

OK guys, so I went for a ride on staurday and noticed my front brake calipers hanging up on my 2005 FJR-Non ABS. Rotors were warm to the touch, but not hot.
Pulled the calipers off today.

Sounds like you've already torn into it, but based on your description it sounds like normal disk/caliper operation.

 

[ahchiu]

I clean the pistons with Simple Green and a tooth brush, if it's not leaking no need to replace.

 

[SkooterG]

IMHO what causes the pads to drag is that the pistons get deposits on them as the pads wear leaving more of the piston exposed. I think that this crud hangs up a bit on the outer seal causing a bit of drag.

I am going to disagree with that. In the beginning, I cleaned my pistons fairly regularly. My pads still wore unevenly. I haven't cleaned my pistons in hundreds of thousands of miles. They don't wear any more unevenly than when I cleaned them. What seems to help a little is to 'exercise' the pistons (during a tire change) by pushing them in and out a bit. As has been mentioned, they key to longer life is to rotate them.

Lines don't go bad. No reason to replace lines unless you just want stainless steel for some reaon. Some folks say they feel better.
New pads, new seals, change the fluid, all of that. But there is not "time to replace lines."

Not so, according to Yamaha. This from the factory service manual, general maintenance and lubrication chart notes:

Every two years replace the internal components of the brake and clutch master cylinders, caliper

cylinders and clutch release cylinder, and change the brake and clutch fluid.

Replace the brake and clutch hoses every four years and if cracked or damaged.

Do YOU follow that?

I have always known the recommendation, but I bet the percentage of peeps who follow it is under 1%. Are you a 1%'r?

When was the last time any of us heard of a brake line or master cylinders going bad? I just don't understand that maintenance recommendation. Liability?

 

[Panman]

IMHO what causes the pads to drag is that the pistons get deposits on them as the pads wear leaving more of the piston exposed. I think that this crud hangs up a bit on the outer seal causing a bit of drag.

I am going to disagree with that. In the beginning, I cleaned my pistons fairly regularly. My pads still wore unevenly. I haven't cleaned my pistons in hundreds of thousands of miles. They don't wear any more unevenly than when I cleaned them. What seems to help a little is to 'exercise' the pistons (during a tire change) by pushing them in and out a bit. As has been mentioned, they key to longer life is to rotate them.

Lines don't go bad. No reason to replace lines unless you just want stainless steel for some reaon. Some folks say they feel better.
New pads, new seals, change the fluid, all of that. But there is not "time to replace lines."

Not so, according to Yamaha. This from the factory service manual, general maintenance and lubrication chart notes:

Every two years replace the internal components of the brake and clutch master cylinders, caliper

cylinders and clutch release cylinder, and change the brake and clutch fluid.

Replace the brake and clutch hoses every four years and if cracked or damaged.

Do YOU follow that?

I have always known the recommendation, but I bet the percentage of peeps who follow it is under 1%. Are you a 1%'r?

When was the last time any of us heard of a brake line or master cylinders going bad? I just don't understand that maintenance recommendation. Liability?

So Skooter, do you pop your pistons out and clean them?

 

[Fred W]

Do YOU follow that?
I have always known the recommendation, but I bet the percentage of peeps who follow it is under 1%. Are you a 1%'r?

When was the last time any of us heard of a brake line or master cylinders going bad? I just don't understand that maintenance recommendation. Liability?

No, I do not. I was just pointing out why someone might have done so.