Canadian Price Adjustments

[Bungie]

Okay, so I'm at Stage 1 of maybe possibly considering buying an FJR. So today, being off work I stop at our friendly neighbourhood Yammie dealer. Lots and LOTS of snow machines (damn! they look like a cross between a jetSki and bike now!) but no FJR to be seen. They maybe had 8 bikes on the showroom floor.

So I ask the sales rep about a brochure 'n stuff. No 08 brochures yet, so I picked up an 07 one.

We get to talking and he mentions that because of the strength of the Cdn loonie against he US dollar, prices have dropped some $2300 on Star 1300 tourers. He expects similar price reductions on the FJR's. With the diff in price between the two models something like $8000, he said he wouldn't be surprised to see close $3000 knocked off the price of the 08's.

HELLS YA!

Anyway, long story short, no FJR's on the floor, but he 'sposed to get one sometime in January.

 

[SR-71]

$8K CAN for a '08 FJR? Tough to beat that here, Eh? You mentioned the Can loonie vs the US dollar rates. That's interesting. I would have thought Canada would receive bike shipments direct from Japan. No?

Snowmobiles that look like jetski's. Interesting! I'd like to give one of those a try but haven't seen a decent snowfall in northern Virginia in a good long time now.

 

[Fred W]

Okay, so I'm at Stage 1 of maybe possibly considering buying an FJR. So today, being off work I stop at our friendly neighbourhood Yammie dealer. Lots and LOTS of snow machines (damn! they look like a cross between a jetSki and bike now!) but no FJR to be seen. They maybe had 8 bikes on the showroom floor.
So I ask the sales rep about a brochure 'n stuff. No 08 brochures yet, so I picked up an 07 one.

We get to talking and he mentions that because of the strength of the Cdn loonie against he US dollar, prices have dropped some $2300 on Star 1300 tourers. He expects similar price reductions on the FJR's. With the diff in price between the two models something like $8000, he said he wouldn't be surprised to see close $3000 knocked off the price of the 08's.

HELLS YA!

Anyway, long story short, no FJR's on the floor, but he 'sposed to get one sometime in January.

Huh?

Are you in Canada and coming across the border to buy your bike? If not, I don't see the point of comparing Loonies to U$D.

 

[Bungie]

$8K CAN for a '08 FJR? Tough to beat that here, Eh? You mentioned the Can loonie vs the US dollar rates. That's interesting. I would have thought Canada would receive bike shipments direct from Japan. No?

No no no LOL! I'll take two if thats the case. The price diff for an FRJ right now between Canada and the States is about 8000. That was based on when the dollar was worth like .65c to your 100. Well now the Canadian $ is actually worth more than the U.S. Dollar (1.10 as of last Fri). So they are adjusting the price to reflect the difference in the dollar.. expecting to lower it some $3000 (putting a new FJR, at 16,500 or so Canadian (Currently its 19000 list).

Which begs the question.. if our dollar is worth more, why is it still 4000 more expensive? Well thats because it comes from Japan, not the U.S.

 

[fossilrider]

$8K CAN for a '08 FJR? Tough to beat that here, Eh? You mentioned the Can loonie vs the US dollar rates. That's interesting. I would have thought Canada would receive bike shipments direct from Japan. No?

No no no LOL! I'll take two if thats the case. The price diff for an FRJ right now between Canada and the States is about 8000. That was based on when the dollar was worth like .65c to your 100. Well now the Canadian $ is actually worth more than the U.S. Dollar (1.10 as of last Fri). So they are adjusting the price to reflect the difference in the dollar.. expecting to lower it some $3000 (putting a new FJR, at 16,500 or so Canadian (Currently its 19000 list).

Which begs the question.. if our dollar is worth more, why is it still 4000 more expensive? Well thats because it comes from Japan, not the U.S.

I would suggest you check south of the border as so many Canadians are doing. Look at cycletrader for a quick eye opening experience.

 

[Bungie]

I would suggest you check south of the border as so many Canadians are doing. Look at cycletrader for a quick eye opening experience.

Oh I am. The difference between a Cdn FJR and a US FJR is nearly $6000. I'd much rather spend the money locally, but 6K buys a whole lot of mods. Throw in its only a 3hr trip for me through the Sault. I've already investigated what it involves (www.riv.ca). $200 and some paperwork. The Cdn dealers are throwing a lot of scare tactics when you mention it - no warranty etc. (bullsh*t!) Can't say I blame them though.

We'll see what the do with the price when the 08's hit the floor.

 

[Fly]

Hi Everybody,

I had enough of this disparity between bike prices(and other products), Last thursday I bought my 2007 FJR1300A on Ebay.

2007 FJR 1300A $11,399 U.S.

CDN exchange rate .92 $10,487 CDN

Shipping from MN, to

Sweet Grass montana, $575.00 CDN

Doc fees $50.00 CDN

RIV fee $212.00 CDN

Duty $0

GST: $629.22 CDN

Total: $11,953.22 CDN

Canadian MSRP:

2007 FJR 1300A $19,010 CDN minus the exchange rate why such a great difference in price?????????????????

 

[fossilrider]

It is ridiculous, latest ad from cycletrader:

YEAR 2008 TYPE Motorcycle

MAKE YAMAHA SUB-CATEGORY Sport Touring

MODEL FJR13AW FJR1300A

PRICE $11,549.00

LOCATION Maumee, OH

CALL TOLL FREE: (877) 437-1631

or

YEAR 2008 TYPE Motorcycle

MAKE YAMAHA MILEAGE 4

MODEL FJR1300A PRIMARY COLOR Raven

PRICE $13,899.00 STOCK NUMBER 99999

LOCATION Manteca, CA

CALL TOLL FREE: (866) 436-4634

DESCRIPTION

$12,158!!! SUPERSPORT TOURING PERFECTION! The FJR's 145 horsepower, light aluminum frame, push-button adjustable windscreen, standard ABS, adjustable ergos and more, widen the gap between it and common sport tourers to a gaping chasm.

I don't know when Yamaha Canada is going to learn, maybe when we stop buying!

 

[fitrx]

Okay, so I'm at Stage 1 of maybe possibly considering buying an FJR. So today, being off work I stop at our friendly neighbourhood Yammie dealer. Lots and LOTS of snow machines (damn! they look like a cross between a jetSki and bike now!) but no FJR to be seen. They maybe had 8 bikes on the showroom floor.
So I ask the sales rep about a brochure 'n stuff. No 08 brochures yet, so I picked up an 07 one.

We get to talking and he mentions that because of the strength of the Cdn loonie against he US dollar, prices have dropped some $2300 on Star 1300 tourers. He expects similar price reductions on the FJR's. With the diff in price between the two models something like $8000, he said he wouldn't be surprised to see close $3000 knocked off the price of the 08's.

HELLS YA!

Anyway, long story short, no FJR's on the floor, but he 'sposed to get one sometime in January.

For those not familiar with the currency markets...the US Dollar has fallen to record lows against all major currencies except the Japaneese Yen. the US Dollar is now below par with the Canadian dollar for the first time, and at record highs against the Yen, due to the continued weakness of the Yen as well.. Thus the reason for the price advantage. No trip to Europe in my immediate plans, or Canada either.

 

[Pierre]

Who's buying from who

Dealers here are saying that because US dollars is actually lower, they will have to drop their prices, cause canadians are crossing the borders to buy their bikes

To give you an idea, I paid my ABS 05two years ago, at the end of the season here in septembre, $ 18500.00 with taxes

 

[Knifemaker]

Yes, but who would want one of those Canadain bikes anyway? We all know they are those detuned french bikes....

KM

 

[Pierre]

Yes, but who would want one of those Canadain bikes anyway? We all know they are those detuned french bikes....




KM

Not too sure about that buddy !

 

[wfooshee]

I think part of it is the swiftness with which the rates against each other have changed. It's pretty hard for a dealer to sell a bike for $13000 Canadian when he might have paid 15 or 16 for it, even though the 13000 is worth "more" than the 15 or 16 was at the time. His ledger sheets don't factor that.

If he's ordering for you, Yamaha Canada isn't going to drop the price all the way, because dealers with bikes on the floor are gonna scream.

The merchandise and market just can't keep up with the currency fluctuation.

The JPY is just as weak against the CD$ as it is against the US$. Actually weaker, huh?

It's not a one-product market, either. What's a carton or bottle of milk cost up there compared to some months ago?

 

[fossilrider]

Not true, the U.S. dollar has been in decline for over 5 years. In some instances dealers are still charging a 30% markup over the U.S.

All kinds of excuses but they are now running out of words as we head south to buy!

 

[Bungie]

Not true, the U.S. dollar has been in decline for over 5 years. In some instances dealers are still charging a 30% markup over the U.S.

All kinds of excuses but they are now running out of words as we head south to buy!

Regardless. Its says on the Yamaha Canada website that they won't honour warranties on U.S. purchased bikes in Canada. I'm not going to be buying anything until Spring after I sell both my current scoots. Then it'll depend on what they've done with the price. I may end up buying used. Either that or the other bike I'm seriously considering is a the new for Canada Honda Varadero (Firestorm motor in a trailie - been sold overseas for the last 10 years or so).

 

[fjrcanuck]

Hi,

Inglis Cycle (ingliscycle.com) in London Ontario has an '07 FJR for $14, 488 and they're usually willing to negotiate beyond that.

 

[spankyaf]

If you want to get really angry check the cost difference between the YES 48 month extended warranty.

$400 Us vs $1258 Cdn

Makes no sense to me given the length of US riding season

 

[CRMH Eagle]

I just looked at Cycletrader.com and the 07 FJR's new are selling $11.8k - 13.8k. But remember a dealer may advertise a low price but stick you with delivery & setup which can run over $1k. I doubt there's a lot of "cheap" new 07's available. Maybe a dealer is advertising that price with stipulation the buyer gets the long-term warranty. I know here in Denver that the dealer I used had 5-6 07A's in inventory in September. In October there was only 1. Maybe I could've gone to Canada or Florida to get a cheaper one. But after paying gas and taking time off work it would've been the same.

Plus, my dealer ALREADY had my ecu replacement ready for me less than 2 week from purchase. They got on the ball when I bought the bike to do what it took to make me happy. Did I pay about $500 more than going to Michigan? Sure, but to have my ecu-recall in hand without have to bend the dealer's arm is worth it to me.

I'm not an expert. But my experience with vehicles is you get what you pay for... and if something is really cheap at a dealership then that's just because you haven't stepped inside the finance mgr's room to be nailed with fees and warranties. Just my 3 cents worth.

And these are Canadian cents so take 'em for what they are worth as determined by the currency trading on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

 

[FJRottie]

You can buy a bike in the US and then do all the maintenance yourself or with a good bike mechanic buddy.

or

You can buy a Canadian bike (shop around) and get the best price in Canada with 1 year warranty.

The Canadian extended warranty is around $1200 (so not worth it IMO).

Don't compare Cdn FJRs with US FJRs. They go from Japan direct to their respective countries and there are slightly different options (i.e. the immobiliser key in Canada).

You can't compare overseas imports with two different customers. The market in the US is not the same as the GWN.

The only thing you can compare is stuff traded within North America.