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Have they got Exaltos? Oh I forgot, I won't need to replace mine for another 30,000 miles or so... Maybe some time in 2015.

Gary

darksider #44

 
If I didn't already have two sets of angels in the garage, I would jump on this. I ran 023s last spring and loved them. Now if you are not an aggressive rider, you may not like these tires. The difference between the two compounds produces an absolute difference in grab, which will give you a wobble feeling or a feeling of not quite knowing what the bike is doing. But if you like to lean and really feel a tire that grips, these are the ones. Okay mileage, about the same as PR2s, maybe a little less. by the way, I paid $208.45 for the angels.

 
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Wow, I don't need tires but that is a GREAT price. My last set I got for something like $217 delivered and at the time that was a GREAT price.

Ken - where (and when) did you get your Angels for that price?

 
Chaparrel Motorsports is having a tire sale on '023GTs. Just picked a set up for $209.88 with free shipping. Sale ends January 31st...act now! :)

--G
Who else likes these 023gt's? Do they wear unevenly like BT021 fronts? I've run BT021's and PR2's on a K1100RS, the BT fronts didn't hold up and PR2's were a vast improvement. Currently have Pirelli Diablo's on my FJR with plans to replace with PR2's soon. Before I do, I'll consider this 023gt alternative. blufjr says they are comparable to PR2's but exceptional in the lean cuisine (to paraphrase).

 
I ran a set of 023GT's down to Wyoming via the Beartooth this past September and liked them. I've only put on approx. 3500 kms but these tires have not worn unevenly so far - absolutely no cupping or indications of it yet on the fronts, rear barely showing any squaring off. I know it's early days yet but I rode these tires reasonably hard and the Chaparral price going on right now is great, so I pulled the trigger on a spare set.

Cheers.

 
Who else likes these 023gt's? Do they wear unevenly like BT021 fronts? I've run BT021's and PR2's on a K1100RS, the BT fronts didn't hold up and PR2's were a vast improvement. Currently have Pirelli Diablo's on my FJR with plans to replace with PR2's soon. Before I do, I'll consider this 023gt alternative. blufjr says they are comparable to PR2's but exceptional in the lean cuisine (to paraphrase).
I only have experience with the front 023GT, but have 4200 miles on it so far, and it's my new go-to front tire. Stick and feel is similar to the PR2 in my opinion, but I didn't like the PR2 because after a few thousand miles, I felt they caused poor turning capabilities. It would fall into the turn really easily, but then it required a fair amount of effort to straighten it back up again. I find the 023GT much more neutral in that regard. No signs of cupping either, with religious diligence to keep it at 40-42 psi.

 
Ordered a set, thanks for the heads up!

We'll see how I like the rear...I really like the 023GT fronts

 
Who else likes these 023gt's? Do they wear unevenly like BT021 fronts? I've run BT021's and PR2's on a K1100RS, the BT fronts didn't hold up and PR2's were a vast improvement. Currently have Pirelli Diablo's on my FJR with plans to replace with PR2's soon. Before I do, I'll consider this 023gt alternative. blufjr says they are comparable to PR2's but exceptional in the lean cuisine (to paraphrase).
I only have experience with the front 023GT, but have 4200 miles on it so far, and it's my new go-to front tire. Stick and feel is similar to the PR2 in my opinion, but I didn't like the PR2 because after a few thousand miles, I felt they caused poor turning capabilities. It would fall into the turn really easily, but then it required a fair amount of effort to straighten it back up again. I find the 023GT much more neutral in that regard. No signs of cupping either, with religious diligence to keep it at 40-42 psi.
Good to know. I went thru 3 sets of BT's, the last set was 020's, and cupping was typical despite inflation at the recommended psi for a K1100RS. 1,000 miles of Hwy 101 from Santa Cruz trashed my 1st set, but they were slightly under-inflated and I was mostly leaned forward putting more weight on the front tire. I've heard others complain about excessive cupping with that generation of BT's, which is why I steered away from them. Sounds like the 023GT is entirely (no pun intended) different.

 
Add me in i just ordered a set hope i like them. Can't remember when i had Any Bridgestone TIREs on a bike of mine..

HENRY

 
So, what's the mileage on these tires? I get about 7K tops from my PR2's. So, these would be what? 5K? 6K?

 
So, what's the mileage on these tires? I get about 7K tops from my PR2's. So, these would be what? 5K? 6K?
I see you reside in Folsom, CA. For me, going 5 or 6K miles would ONLY allow 2 or 3 RT's from Seattle to the In-N-Out Burger in Folsom.

BTW, we have friends in Folsom, and when staying there I pay daily homage to the local In-N-Out restaurant!

 
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So, what's the mileage on these tires? I get about 7K tops from my PR2's. So, these would be what? 5K? 6K?
PC,

See, here's the thing. You say you've been trashing your PR2s in 7k, but I bet that is the rear tire (replacing the front at the same time) and probably they are most worn on the sides. Am I right?

The sides of the PR2's aren't very much harder than the sides of many "stickier" Sport Touring tire sets. The guys that are getting those phenomenal tahr mileages are doing a lot of those miles with the bike at a 90 degree angle to the horizon. You can click off a whole bunch of miles on the harder center strip, that would square off a single compound tire and make it handle like dookie, and still have good tread to go play in the twisties on Saturday.

True Hoons will wear out the PR2s at nearly the same rate as any single compound tires because they never realize any benefit from the hard center since they spend all of their time on the sides. That's where the cost benefit ratio of the PR2's go into the commode. In which case it makes a lot of sense to just buy whatever good sticky single compound tire you can find, until you plan on making a cross continent interstate road trip.

 
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PC,See, here's the thing. You say you've been trashing your PR2s in 7k, but I bet that is the rear tire (replacing the front at the same time) and probably they are most worn on the sides.

Am I right?
By the time the center is worn down (but never beyond the wear bar - replace them just before or about level with the wear bar) - the sides are cupped pretty badly on the rear. Replace the front and rear as a set even though the front looks like it has a few more (thousands) miles left on them. As for the cupping on the sides of the rear? Dunno why. I run 42 psi religiously on the rear. Upgraded suspension etc etc. Heavy throttle hand?

 
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I've been replacing tires on 3 FJR's since '04 and used several brands over the years. All of them got me about 8,000 miles per set on pretty much the same roads (local, tours to CO, NM, WV, AR etc.) and same twist on the right grip. They might vary 500 miles each way. Some sets had the front and rear wear out at the same time, and some had the front cup so badly they went with the rear (even though the same brand and model of tire didn't do that on the set before.)

So I am at 6,000 on this set of 023GTs and I can see I will make more than 8,000 miles-- maybe 10,000 for a change. I (strangely) have not had them in the wet except for a short stretch on interstate, so I can't say how good they are wet. But for what I do and how I ride, I like them enough to order another set today.

Not to make this a tire thread but as far a miles go, it looks like I will get a few more miles than the usual 8,000 with other tires I've used.

 
By the time the center is worn down (but never beyond the wear bar - replace them just before or about level with the wear bar) - the sides are cupped pretty badly on the rear. Replace the front and rear as a set even though the front looks like it has a few more (thousands) miles left on them. As for the cupping on the sides of the rear? Dunno why. I run 42 psi religiously on the rear. Upgraded suspension etc etc. Heavy throttle hand?
No, I get pretty much the same thing, just at a slightly slower rate. The cupping on the sides of the rear doesn't really bother me that much. It happens because we (both apparently) like to power out of corners. :yahoo: Nothing wrong with that by the way. Just a fact of life. If you hit the throttle coming out of corners on a regular basis you will cup your tires because the applied torque will flex the tread blocks and cause the leading edge to wear away faster than the trailing. You could probably get more miles out of them until they are completely smooth and ragged like many you see pictured on the forum, but it is completely a personal decision. I, like you apparently, prefer to err on the side of safe, early changes. When you are riding a baloney skin and get stuck out n the rain, a single hydro-plane event can be a real life changer. It is just money, for these tires, after-all.

Although I have reasonably good experiences with the PR2's through sebveral sets now, I'm really starting to think there may be a better tire combo out there for me somewhere. It is such a personal situation, it is almost impossible to take queues from anyone else unless you know for certainty that they ride exactly the way that you do. Not really sure what the magic tahrs are just yet, but I know it doesn't involve any damn square tire on the back. :p

 
...Although I have reasonably good experiences with the PR2's through several sets now, I'm really starting to think there may be a better tire combo out there for me somewhere. It is such a personal situation, it is almost impossible to take queues from anyone else unless you know for certainty that they ride exactly the way that you do. Not really sure what the magic tahrs are just yet, but I know it doesn't involve any damn square tire on the back. :p
Have the same opinion. There is no "one size fits all" for tires or windscreens...

 
By the time the center is worn down (but never beyond the wear bar - replace them just before or about level with the wear bar) - the sides are cupped pretty badly on the rear. Replace the front and rear as a set even though the front looks like it has a few more (thousands) miles left on them. As for the cupping on the sides of the rear? Dunno why. I run 42 psi religiously on the rear. Upgraded suspension etc etc. Heavy throttle hand?
No, I get pretty much the same thing, just at a slightly slower rate. The cupping on the sides of the rear doesn't really bother me that much. It happens because we (both apparently) like to power out of corners. :yahoo: Nothing wrong with that by the way. Just a fact of life. If you hit the throttle coming out of corners on a regular basis you will cup your tires because the applied torque will flex the tread blocks and cause the leading edge to wear away faster than the trailing. You could probably get more miles out of them until they are completely smooth and ragged like many you see pictured on the forum, but it is completely a personal decision. I, like you apparently, prefer to err on the side of safe, early changes. When you are riding a baloney skin and get stuck out n the rain, a single hydro-plane event can be a real life changer. It is just money, for these tires, after-all.

Although I have reasonably good experiences with the PR2's through sebveral sets now, I'm really starting to think there may be a better tire combo out there for me somewhere. It is such a personal situation, it is almost impossible to take queues from anyone else unless you know for certainty that they ride exactly the way that you do. Not really sure what the magic tahrs are just yet, but I know it doesn't involve any damn square tire on the back. :p

Thanks Fred! :)

 
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