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Chaparrel Motorsports is having a tire sale on '023GTs. Just picked a set up for $209.88 with free shipping. Sale ends January 31st...act now!
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Who else likes these 023gt's? Do they wear unevenly like BT021 fronts? I've run BT021's and PR2's on a K1100RS, the BT fronts didn't hold up and PR2's were a vast improvement. Currently have Pirelli Diablo's on my FJR with plans to replace with PR2's soon. Before I do, I'll consider this 023gt alternative. blufjr says they are comparable to PR2's but exceptional in the lean cuisine (to paraphrase).Chaparrel Motorsports is having a tire sale on '023GTs. Just picked a set up for $209.88 with free shipping. Sale ends January 31st...act now!
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I only have experience with the front 023GT, but have 4200 miles on it so far, and it's my new go-to front tire. Stick and feel is similar to the PR2 in my opinion, but I didn't like the PR2 because after a few thousand miles, I felt they caused poor turning capabilities. It would fall into the turn really easily, but then it required a fair amount of effort to straighten it back up again. I find the 023GT much more neutral in that regard. No signs of cupping either, with religious diligence to keep it at 40-42 psi.Who else likes these 023gt's? Do they wear unevenly like BT021 fronts? I've run BT021's and PR2's on a K1100RS, the BT fronts didn't hold up and PR2's were a vast improvement. Currently have Pirelli Diablo's on my FJR with plans to replace with PR2's soon. Before I do, I'll consider this 023gt alternative. blufjr says they are comparable to PR2's but exceptional in the lean cuisine (to paraphrase).
Good to know. I went thru 3 sets of BT's, the last set was 020's, and cupping was typical despite inflation at the recommended psi for a K1100RS. 1,000 miles of Hwy 101 from Santa Cruz trashed my 1st set, but they were slightly under-inflated and I was mostly leaned forward putting more weight on the front tire. I've heard others complain about excessive cupping with that generation of BT's, which is why I steered away from them. Sounds like the 023GT is entirely (no pun intended) different.I only have experience with the front 023GT, but have 4200 miles on it so far, and it's my new go-to front tire. Stick and feel is similar to the PR2 in my opinion, but I didn't like the PR2 because after a few thousand miles, I felt they caused poor turning capabilities. It would fall into the turn really easily, but then it required a fair amount of effort to straighten it back up again. I find the 023GT much more neutral in that regard. No signs of cupping either, with religious diligence to keep it at 40-42 psi.Who else likes these 023gt's? Do they wear unevenly like BT021 fronts? I've run BT021's and PR2's on a K1100RS, the BT fronts didn't hold up and PR2's were a vast improvement. Currently have Pirelli Diablo's on my FJR with plans to replace with PR2's soon. Before I do, I'll consider this 023gt alternative. blufjr says they are comparable to PR2's but exceptional in the lean cuisine (to paraphrase).
I see you reside in Folsom, CA. For me, going 5 or 6K miles would ONLY allow 2 or 3 RT's from Seattle to the In-N-Out Burger in Folsom.So, what's the mileage on these tires? I get about 7K tops from my PR2's. So, these would be what? 5K? 6K?
PC,So, what's the mileage on these tires? I get about 7K tops from my PR2's. So, these would be what? 5K? 6K?
By the time the center is worn down (but never beyond the wear bar - replace them just before or about level with the wear bar) - the sides are cupped pretty badly on the rear. Replace the front and rear as a set even though the front looks like it has a few more (thousands) miles left on them. As for the cupping on the sides of the rear? Dunno why. I run 42 psi religiously on the rear. Upgraded suspension etc etc. Heavy throttle hand?PC,See, here's the thing. You say you've been trashing your PR2s in 7k, but I bet that is the rear tire (replacing the front at the same time) and probably they are most worn on the sides.
Am I right?
No, I get pretty much the same thing, just at a slightly slower rate. The cupping on the sides of the rear doesn't really bother me that much. It happens because we (both apparently) like to power out of corners. :yahoo: Nothing wrong with that by the way. Just a fact of life. If you hit the throttle coming out of corners on a regular basis you will cup your tires because the applied torque will flex the tread blocks and cause the leading edge to wear away faster than the trailing. You could probably get more miles out of them until they are completely smooth and ragged like many you see pictured on the forum, but it is completely a personal decision. I, like you apparently, prefer to err on the side of safe, early changes. When you are riding a baloney skin and get stuck out n the rain, a single hydro-plane event can be a real life changer. It is just money, for these tires, after-all.By the time the center is worn down (but never beyond the wear bar - replace them just before or about level with the wear bar) - the sides are cupped pretty badly on the rear. Replace the front and rear as a set even though the front looks like it has a few more (thousands) miles left on them. As for the cupping on the sides of the rear? Dunno why. I run 42 psi religiously on the rear. Upgraded suspension etc etc. Heavy throttle hand?
Have the same opinion. There is no "one size fits all" for tires or windscreens......Although I have reasonably good experiences with the PR2's through several sets now, I'm really starting to think there may be a better tire combo out there for me somewhere. It is such a personal situation, it is almost impossible to take queues from anyone else unless you know for certainty that they ride exactly the way that you do. Not really sure what the magic tahrs are just yet, but I know it doesn't involve any damn square tire on the back.
No, I get pretty much the same thing, just at a slightly slower rate. The cupping on the sides of the rear doesn't really bother me that much. It happens because we (both apparently) like to power out of corners. :yahoo: Nothing wrong with that by the way. Just a fact of life. If you hit the throttle coming out of corners on a regular basis you will cup your tires because the applied torque will flex the tread blocks and cause the leading edge to wear away faster than the trailing. You could probably get more miles out of them until they are completely smooth and ragged like many you see pictured on the forum, but it is completely a personal decision. I, like you apparently, prefer to err on the side of safe, early changes. When you are riding a baloney skin and get stuck out n the rain, a single hydro-plane event can be a real life changer. It is just money, for these tires, after-all.By the time the center is worn down (but never beyond the wear bar - replace them just before or about level with the wear bar) - the sides are cupped pretty badly on the rear. Replace the front and rear as a set even though the front looks like it has a few more (thousands) miles left on them. As for the cupping on the sides of the rear? Dunno why. I run 42 psi religiously on the rear. Upgraded suspension etc etc. Heavy throttle hand?
Although I have reasonably good experiences with the PR2's through sebveral sets now, I'm really starting to think there may be a better tire combo out there for me somewhere. It is such a personal situation, it is almost impossible to take queues from anyone else unless you know for certainty that they ride exactly the way that you do. Not really sure what the magic tahrs are just yet, but I know it doesn't involve any damn square tire on the back.
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