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pronomian

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Been over 20 years since I have been caught speeding. Now I have been nabbed twice in two weeks. First I was going 44 in a 35, LEO let me off with a warning and requirement to show I had valid insurance (I did, just didn't have the card on me). Second was a couple days ago, 50 in a 30, must have clocked me when I was slowing, I was doing over 70. It was on a back road, just paved a few months ago. Absolutely now roads leading into that one, no housing, no school, but one church. Over a mile and it is posted 30, what a bunch of crap. LEO cut me some slack off saying He'd write me up for going 40 so it won't affect my insurance.

Man, if this keeps up I'll have to sell this bike and get a......gulp......a goldwing. If I have to ride like and old man, might as will get a bike that makes me feel old. I had a goldwing, made me feel old just sitting on it.

Mike

 
Been over 20 years since I have been caught speeding. Now I have been nabbed twice in two weeks. First I was going 44 in a 35, LEO let me off with a warning and requirement to show I had valid insurance (I did, just didn't have the card on me). Second was a couple days ago, 50 in a 30, must have clocked me when I was slowing, I was doing over 70. It was on a back road, just paved a few months ago. Absolutely now roads leading into that one, no housing, no school, but one church. Over a mile and it is posted 30, what a bunch of crap. LEO cut me some slack off saying He'd write me up for going 40 so it won't affect my insurance.

Man, if this keeps up I'll have to sell this bike and get a......gulp......a goldwing. If I have to ride like and old man, might as will get a bike that makes me feel old. I had a goldwing, made me feel old just sitting on it.

Mike
Sounds like you got lucky. You got a WARNING and reduced ticket for speeding in areas that have posted limits. You pays your money and you takes your chances. He coulda' got you when you WERE doing 70 in the 30.

Invest in a good radar detector and slow down in town. ;)

 
You may want to call your agent about the 10 over the limit not effecting your insurance...............my understanding is that it does.

I was also told that PJC's (prayer for judgment continued) can be brought up if you have had a ticket within 2 years.

regards

NC

 
I recently got 2 tickets in 6 days. On in NC one in NY.

one 19 over one 15 over.

I've hired lawyers for both of them. They say they can get them down to non moving violations, and hence no points.

ugh..will be over $800 :(

..there goes a full holeshot setup :(

 
You don't need a lawyer.

My soon-to-be ex-wife was caught in New York doing 84 in a 65 in her van (she even admitted doing 75 or so and didn't have current insurance papers with her to boot).

I wrote a long letter to the town in her name telling them that she was not guilty and that I would be forced to fight the unjustified ticket because she was travelling with the traffic and going no faster than anyone else (actually she was in the left lane barreling along going faster than anyone except the officer in pursuit, but I took a bunch of literary license), but given the amount of time and the cost of travelling the 200 miles each way, if they could see some way to make it a non-moving offense I would plead guilty and save everyone the problem.

Somehow 84 became 'parking on the pavement' and I paid her $150 fine, thank you very much.

 
Man, if this keeps up I'll have to sell this bike and get a......gulp......a goldwing. If I have to ride like and old man, might as will get a bike that makes me feel old. I had a goldwing, made me feel old just sitting on it.
I've got an 05 Goldwing and it's a blast to ride and fast too....not as fast as my FJR but still faster than allot out there. By the way catch the video of the Wing doing the dragon and you'll change your mind. See this video.... https://media.putfile.com/Riding-the-Dragon-Part-One https://media.putfile.com/Riding-the-Dragon-Part-Two

 
Man, if this keeps up I'll have to sell this bike and get a......gulp......a goldwing. If I have to ride like and old man, might as will get a bike that makes me feel old. I had a goldwing, made me feel old just sitting on it. Mike
Easy on the 'Wing bashing, Mike. It ain't sporty, but it goes. My 'Wing is my long-distance bike. Check out this recent FJR Forum thread about fast, peg=scrapin', knee-draggin' Gold Wings: Click here.

Re: ticket fighting: law school taught me a few tricks, so I've fought every ticket over the last 20 years. (I must be getting old 'cuz I haven't had a ticket in 4+ years though.) Historical winning percentage: about 60%.

Best win: my officer left the courtroom to change from his civvies into his police uiniform...during the everyone-in-the-court swearing in ceremony. Later that morning he testified. I had (typical defense for me) reams of roadway drawings, radar spread charts, radar tuning manuals, etc., but didn't have to use any of it. I simply said, "Your honor, I move for a dismissal on the grounds that the officer's testimony was given outside the oath, therefore the state (CA) has no evidence against me." Judge dismissed the case, and as I was walking out the courtrom (getting high-fives from other defendants waiting their turn), I heard the judge yelling at the red-faced officer, "Don't you EVER leave my courtroom without checking in with my bailiff..." That was a good day.

 
One thing I've notice as most have I'm sure is this bike while booking along at 80 sure feels like 50 and this can lead to trouble. I have also noticed there seems to be too little space where one can safely and comfortablly find a place where the FJR can really stretch its long legs, as in really wind the sucker up and make this puppy walk routine. I have this irresistible urge to move to the high desert region of Nevada for some unknown reason.....um....well, you know what I mean. PM. <>< :dribble: :eek:

 
Two things:

1) Never admit guilt online, most folks may not take this seriously, but some day everything you post will be archived, (Google gets most stuff today already) and some resourceful prosecutor using Google or some other means, will be able to easily get a record of everything you post/email/etc.

2) You should check on your options, in MN often if we go to the pre-trial hearing and ask nicely we can often get a Stay of Abdication, or Continuance for Dismissal (I believe you plead guilty on the first one and not on the second) This allows us to pay the fine (or a little more) and keep the ticket off of our record

AS LONG AS: you don't get a similar violation in the next year...

Lucky for us in MN the records are kept at the county level, and I've known people who have gotten a continuance in one county and before there year was up they got another ticket.. but in a different county... They went and got a continuance in that county also. (no this is not me)

I know a Criminal Defense Lawyer in MN who suggests doing this everytime you get a ticket... That way you always have a clean record, which means every ticket ends up being the first ticket, and hopefully helps you should you have a string of bad luck. Also this keeps your insurance from seeing it... and raising your rates.

-bvw.

 
Suck it up and eat the ticket. You earned it if you were doing 70 in a 30 and got off with a 50 in a 30. If you don't want to pay, then you gotta avoid the play.

 
+1 on what valetz had to say. Check your options. Every state varys what it will allow. Many Eastern states use prosecutors and you can go in before seeing the judge and arrange to plea bargain to a non-moving violation that won't affect your insurance.

Other states, like Oregon, have Traffic courts that don't operate like normal courts. No prosecutor, very little options other than guilty, not guilty (goes to trial set later) or no contest. Oregon also gave up on 'traffic school' some time ago and now the ODOT sends you nice letters if you get more than 3 "incidents" for nearly any reason in 24 months. Incidents include things like accidents, regardless of fault, non-moving violations like window tinting and parking in a handicapped space, etc. as well as the expected speeding and failure to obey a traffic control device, i.e. all moving violations.

The first letter, after 3 incidents restricts your driving for 30 days, not allowing driving from midnight to 5 am and warns you that a 4th incident will result in an automatic 30 days suspended driving privledges. You can actually be suspended for 30 days to 5 years, solely dependant on the ODOT board of review and how they decide after reviewing your driving record. You can appear before the board with or w/o a lawyer, but most people that appear before the board end up with longer suspensions, (or so the nice ladies at DMV tell me).

Oh sure, you have two now and you think it'll never happen to you. Life is funny that way. I had a not at fault accident where a guy t-boned me at 20 mph. I had right of way, he didn't, very clear situation with two local cops as witnesses to the incident too. Still counted as a "preventable accident" as far as ODOT was concerned. Then I got nabbed on a cheesy 1 point violation in the neighboring state and next thing I know, two letters arrive. First a warning, second a suspension. The last ticket was in August, the suspension covered Nov 24th to Dec 25th. Not a coincidence me thinks. :glare:

I used to get a speeding ticket every couple of years or so. No big deal, no insurance issues. (I'm still in ultra-preferred). I live in Oregon, it's just a part of life when the speed limit is 55 most places and only 65 on "urban interstates", plus speeding tickets are used for revenue enhancement. WA is the same on the revenue enhancement part.

3 years ago when I got suspended for 30 days, I investigated my options, then just ate it and bought a bus pass for Dec and dealt with my suspension. I can't say I didn't get the two speeding tickets or have the accident, though not at fault. The last one was cheesy, but I was still the rider selected out of the dozen guys in our group that were guilty to get the ticket. It didn't help that my FJR was so new it didn't have plates yet. :p (not required to display temp tag in OR, but you are in WA. Oops!)

I haven't had a ticket since. I did slow down for a while, but now I still drive/ride the same way I always have. Mostly +10 on the interstate. In town I go the speed limit or very close. Plenty of other road users pass me. I have to admit I'm more aware now and watching more for 'the man' since it matters more to me, but I quickly realized that it was more hazardous to ride at the speed limit than more with the flow of traffic.

Just a story to caution you to be aware of the options and consequences in your home state.

 
just get really loud pipes, remove the balance weights off you bike, and put them 180 degrees from where they were. Now the ride will be loud and rough, so you won't go so fast! :p :p fast and smooth certainly allows the MPH to creep up on ya.. actually -- that's why I got rid of the CBR1100XX--- found myself going way to fast, way too many times.

i have no real advice...

 
I was thinking along the same lines as Rickster - why not just take the shifter off your FJR so you never get out of first gear. Should reduce the risk of speeding tickets dramatically.

a no price farkle that could pay for itself in no time.

 
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