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HotRodZilla

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As many of you know, I have three daughters. God, if he exists, is pissed at me for my behavior when I was younger and single. So instead of the boy I wanted, I got three girls. Some punishment this is so far...I love my babies and they love me back. The oldest is 11, so no teen years yet. I'm kind of dreading the hormones and drama, but we'll see what happenes.

Since I have no boys, the girls are the only ones I have to do stuff with. They play softball and soccer. They love motorcycles, four wheel drives, swimming, working on stuff and guns. The oldest one is especially into guns. I think mostly because the noise doesn't scare her and she's old enough to be productive with them.

Since she's the oldest, she has the most access to stuff. She has two horses. An Arabian dressage horse she is training to jump and a Paint ranch horse she will learn to rope on. I grew up on a ranch, so stuff I could do from the time I could walk takes longer to teach to kids that live in the city.

Anyway...Back to guns.

Some of you know I shoot competitively and do pretty well. If I had more time and money, I could be great, but I have three girls who are not cheap. I shoot with two USPSA clubs and get together with the Glock guys a couple times a year. I shoot .22 steel matches, sporting clays, Tactical Rifle and Multi-Gun (Three Gun).

Last week, my buddy called me and said some guys from our club who were off on Friday were gonna have a Three Gun match on Friday afternoon. Well, I was off, so I wasn't passing that up. On Friday, I loaded all my stuff up and took the 11 year old with me to the range. My girls go to a Charter School and go Monday through Thursday. They are off in Fridays, which is cool.

So we got to the range and I found the guys on the 1000 yard range setting up poppers and 8" steel swingers with flashers. Basically the poppers are about 6" thick at the widest point and shaped almost like a person. The flashers are swinging plates hanging from a cross member. Attached to the down tube is a white plate in front and an orange plate in back. When the target is hit, it causes the flashers to move, so the shooter and spotters know it was hit. Make sense?

Turns out, we were shooting long distance .223 and not Three Gun, so I had to change modes. I also realized the 11 year old could shoot with us since we were not running and gunning. We got set up and ended up with multiple targets from 200 yards to 500 yards. We kept it short because the wind decided to blow and a .223 isn't worth **** beyond 500 anyway.

We all kind of saw what was going where with the wind and then I put the kid behind my buddie's rifle. It is a very nice JP AR15 with a worked trigger and a Swarovski 1.7-10 scope with bullet drop compensation. She has shot a lot of pistol and some shotgun, but no rifle. She had some ergonomic issues at first, but we got her set.

I decided to start her on the 200 yard popper since it was the closest and easiest to spot for. I helped her adjust for the wind and told her what to do. She missed the first shot and took her cheek off the rifle to look for it. I corrected that and had her do it again. She made another adjustment for the wind and pounded the popper. Beginner's luck I figured, but she hit it three more times in a row.

I moved her to the swinger. After the first hit, I told her to take a second shot before the target stopped moving. She was on and started hitting it with one to two second splits...Boom, whack. Boom, whack....

Well, we'd had enough of that, so I directed her to the 300 yard targets: two poppers and a swinger. She was shooting in a full value 20-25mph wind. Which means we were shooting north, but the wind was blowing almost directly west to east. That kind of wind will blow a .233 round 20-30 inches at 300 yards. Again, I helped her use the hash marks on the reticle to get to the target.

She got her first hit on shot #3 and for the next 10 rounds only missed when the wound suddenly stopped. She blew through three 20 round magazines laughing the whole time.

She is now hooked, which is where the "making of the monster" comes in. This **** is expensive and suddenly I have gun magazines on the kitchen table opened up to tricked out AR15 rifles with adjustable stocks. My buddies rifle does not adjust which made her reach difficult. She wants one that she can shorten like my M4.

I told her that I never made shots like that until I was into my 20s. I didn't have the equipment or the instruction, but she was adjusting well and picking up very fast. I've been a fire arms instructor for 14 years and I've never had an adult student pick up so fast.

I can't ride my FJR alone because I've created 3 monsters. I spend my Saturdays trailering horses around or going to softball games because I've created monsters, and now I've successfully turned my kid onto expensive rifles and optics...I guess its better than boys!!

 
Zilla, I cannot think of one worthwhile hobby that is not expensive. Guns are no exception. Your area lends itself well to LD rifle shooting. Here we have such high humidity that at 500 yards the target is hidden in the fog...

My Dad shot on the USMC rifle and pistol team when he returned from Vietnam. He did some instructing for civilians as well as soldiers. He always insisted that a female IF she had her **** together had some physical advantages over a man. He believed that the heartbeat/pulse did not shake the weapon as much, for several reasons. Yes, I know you have to time the shot between beats but if the rifle does not move as far, it helps.

I can only hope that by doing what you are doing you set their standards high. It always amazes me the things a young man will say to impress a girl. When the young lady knows better, and Daddy is the standard she judges other men by, we can hope for a positive outcome.

My son, my Dad and myself went fishing today. I only have the one boy and he is expensive. My best friend has 3 daughters in high school right now. He calls his house "The House of Estrogen".

 
Anyway...Back to guns.

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I told her that I never made shots like that until I was into my 20s. I didn't have the equipment or the instruction, but she was adjusting well and picking up very fast. I've been a fire arms instructor for 14 years and I've never had an adult student pick up so fast.

, and now I've successfully turned my kid onto expensive rifles and optics...I guess its better than boys!!
HRZ - I cannot think of a better way to prepare her for dating. She will be confident and not take any crap from any boy because … well they just better watch it!

May I suggest that her first date with a guy, she takes them to the firing range to get an understanding.
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Congrats on a caringl fatherhood, its nice to hear success stories !

 
My first experience with a shotgun was on a trap range at the age of 12 with my Dad and his buddies. I literally could not miss. My Dad told me it was beginners luck and it was. I've never shot like that again.

 
You probably do not need this advice, but encourage her on!

It sounds like she's got a real talent. If she starts now and practices hard, she may be able to turn into a competition pro . . . or even an Olympic shooter.

Go HRZ's Eldest!

 
Zilla, awesome story, and nice job! Your daughter picked it up so fast because 1. A good instructor that knew how to instruct her was there, and that she trusted and knew that instructor knew wtf they were talking about, so she listened. And 2. She did not have bad habits already ingrained that you had to un-do, like your "adult" students. Cherish these moments, I still remember fondly taking my boys out and shooting, and shooting as a kid with my dad. Unfortunately I was not a firearms instructor at the time and probably passed some bad habits along the way, but my youngest (14) can knock a deer down with one round and put food on the table. He has not found the joys of the handgun, yet.

Oh, while mine is a boy, the drama is on its way....

 
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Enjoy it while you can. Boys will come along and then you will have another problem to deal with.
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Good job AJ. My four kids grew up shooting on a regular basis. Now the first thing they want to do when they visit is go to the range. The problem is they use my guns and they never bring ammo.

 
Very nice story.

I am a 4H shooting instructor and teach the basics to a lot of youngsters. The girls always shoot better than the boys for the first year or two. I think they are more willing to take instruction.

FWIW, I also have three daughters and no sons. I actually prefer the girls. They love their dad. Mine are all adults now and two of them have families of their own. Grandkids are great too.
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That's pretty cool, AJ!

Enjoy this time in their lives! Eventually they're gonna realize what the rest of us already know - you're a complete idjut that doesn't know ****.
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I'm going to share something here coming from a different angle. Nothing about guns.

A very good friend of mine, who might have had a slightly different yet somewhat similar early life as yours, also was blessed with three girls. When they were first born everyone had a good laugh as George is a character by any definition albeit with a huge heart. Not only did we picture what these girls would do to him but, as a mechanic who had the best over-the-top toys, we wondered who he would get to share all his interests with. Oh, we knew he would be the ultimate sap and would enjoy every moment with them, yet - football? Hunting? Engines?

Over the years there seemed to be little he didn't teach or share with these girls. Living on the water, from the earliest age they all had life-jackets on. He would so enjoy watching them run circles around any of his friends who dared to challenge them on a Jet-ski. Before each had their driver's license they could be seen darting back and forth across the bay on the Whaler, day or night, meeting up with friends or going to work at their summer jobs at various beaches. Each had some sort of Jeep as their first car and each knew not only how to drive it, but how to get it out of trouble should it become stuck off-road or on the side of one. And while I haven't really witnessed it, I understand each can ride a quad like it's second nature.

Fast forward to today, some 20, 25 years since. All of his girls have turned into beautiful, young women (including my God-daughter
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) with plenty going for them yet each couldn't be more different from the other. One is a teacher, laid back, home every evening and seems to have no desire to date much less move away. The next is striking and stylish, working in the fashion industry, fits right in living in Manhattan and has been in a relationship with someone who also seems to be going after what he wants. The youngest is the toughest, at least in personality. Quiet but is involved in many aspects of school, can build the sub-structure of the Home-coming float as well as paint the pretty flowers on the outside and can probably tell you what transfer case goes in any of the popular 4x4's. Also has a nice core-group of friends with a few male interests but smart enough not to get serious with any one in particular. Yet, as different as these girls all are, they each share one very admirable trait - confidence. The quiet kind. You got to know what to look for but once you do, it's enjoyable to watch each of them in a conversation with anyone. Be it friends, adults, authority figures, whoever, it doesn't matter. They each will look you in the eye as you talk, politely and respectfully listen to what you have to say and then walk away not necessarily taking what you said as gospel. Their opinions of others, when asked for, are usually spot on. When they think someone an ass, they can back their judgement up.

As might have shown through a little, I admire these girls but I attribute most of it to their upbringing. Both parents loving and tough but also a father who shared with them just about everything that he was involved in, business or pleasure. It didn't matter boy or girl, he taught them they were capable of doing whatever they wanted and I think he enjoyed every moment of it.

Actually, I know he still is.

 
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Thanks for the replies. I guess I want them to experience as much as possible before they are poor college students and can't afford stuff. RFH is right about good hobbies being expensive though. Have any of you priced a new mountain bike lately or anything fun? A friend and I were amazed at the current ski lift prices. Some around $75 per day and not much cheaper for kids. I remember when they were $35. ****, for us to take a weekend ski trip is nearly 2 grand. I need a better job or something...Hell!!

 
As might have shown through a little, I admire these girls but I attribute most of it to their upbringing. Both parents loving and tough but also a father who shared with them just about everything that he was involved in, business or pleasure. It didn't matter boy or girl, he taught them they were capable of doing whatever they wanted and I think he enjoyed every moment of it.
Actually, I know he still is.
This is the key, IMO. Kids are ridiculously aware. They know when you matter to them, and that makes everything matter more to them.

Nobody ever complains that their kid went astray because they spent too much time and attention on them. Yeah, life is busy. But there are priorities and this is, or at least should be, #1.

Thanks for the replies. I guess I want them to experience as much as possible before they are poor college students and can't afford stuff. RFH is right about good hobbies being expensive though. Have any of you priced a new mountain bike lately or anything fun? A friend and I were amazed at the current ski lift prices. Some around $75 per day and not much cheaper for kids. I remember when they were $35. ****, for us to take a weekend ski trip is nearly 2 grand. I need a better job or something...Hell!!
Yeah, anything that is hobby, or fun, costs a lot of money these days. Also your time. Especially your time. But you'll never invest your money and your time more wisely than by spending it on shared experiences with your kids. These are the best investments in your future that you may ever make.

My wife and I are fortunate enough to have three good (adult) kids, each making their own separate ways in this financially gruesome, modern world. We credit that purely to the choices that we made to spend our time and energy with them when they were younger. Finding the things that we could share a passion for matters immensely.

Too many parents drop their hobbies they are passionate about to do "kid" things (whatever that is). Kids are real people. They know when you are faking it. Don't fake it. Bring them into your passions, wherever you can. Don't just drop out of them "for the kids sake."

 
And, getting back to normal...

The more time and love you give your children, the better the payoff at the end. Because you have to realize that your children are going to be the ones picking out your nursing home. Or worse yet, changing your dirty diaper when you are too old to take care of yourself.

I remind Pop of this from time to time. He really does not appreciate it.

 
If I ever need to have a diaper changed, one of my inexpensive guns and I are gonna have a very serious, one sided conversation. Screw that!!

I want my kids to do whatever they want, and I don't ever want them thinking they can't do something because they are girls. They are all very smart, but very different. The oldest one is very motivated. The middle one is very much like me. She's super smart, but can be lazy. She's gonna be the jock of them. She takes to sports very easily. The youngest is still finding her own, but she's crazy smart and all personality. Sort of don't know what to expect of her yet. I do know she is the "survival of the fittest" one. If its not given to her, she figures out how to take it.

The youngest one, 5 years old is my biggest helper. The other day I was working in the garage. She took my "measurer" and measured everything she could reach. Her tenacity amazes me. Haha...

 
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Still, all in all, you need to tame that monster by purchasing a single stage reloader on Craig's List and insisting that she reload her own ammo. You can buy the components, but let her study the reloading charts and through trial and error come up with a proper load. By the way, the proper load is 25 grains of Hogden 223 with a 55 grain spire point using magnum primers.

JSNS

 
Keep up the good work AJ.

Raised both of my girls as monsters, and they both turned out to be responsible adults. Go figure.

 
Nothing better for a kid than a parent(s) who is devoted to teaching them all they know, lets them fail once in a while, but being supportive and very generous with their time. Enjoy the years you have with them AJ, they go by in a flash!

 
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