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Toecutter

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As I settled in on the freeway for today's twenty minute commute, something felt strange in the attitude of my bike, like the rear end was a little lower. Just after I dismissed it, I looked down and my SmarTire display was flashing a "-13" for the rear tire. ****! I limped along, hoping to make it to the station. A half-mile away from arrival, it changed to "-15" (26 psi).

Popped it onto the centerstand, walked around, and without even rotating the tire, there's a nice sheet metal screw head direct center of the tread smiling at me.

Now I get the added concern of running a plugged tire until the end of its life, which will now definitely be before WFO.

I'm probably just beyond the warranty depth too. :fingers crossed:

 
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Stripped your Avon faith? A sheet metal screw would have got any tire... I don't get the connection. Did you find more holes beyond the screw? :dntknw:

 
Stripped your Avon faith? A sheet metal screw would have got any tire... I don't get the connection. Did you find more holes beyond the screw? :dntknw:
Because of Carver & Toecutter, we now have exhaustable proof that Avon Tyres are unlucky. They get metal bits in them at a extraordinarally high occurence rate... :)

 
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Hey Toe, I'll take that tire off your hands and gladly run it until WFO departure date! :rolleyes: To be fair, I'll even trade you a worn Pilot Road so you have some rubber to roll on until then too! :yahoo:

Signed,

Avon Destroyer Don

ps - 2800 miles is all I got then Ashe calls me a 'hooligan'? Jeeesh, what up wid dat?

 
I only got 900 miles out of the new Avons before i picked up a 4" nail in the center of the tread.... <_<

Plugged it and it's as good as new! :D

 
I only got 900 miles out of the new Avons before i picked up a 4" nail in the center of the tread.... <_<
Plugged it and it's as good as new! :D
Free Road Hazard Warranty my good man!

Can you say new tire?
Wow! Good to hear. I picked up a flat out west last year on a fairly new Avon with less than 2,000 miles on it. I wish I'd known about that. I'm assuming I can go to avon.com and read about it.

 
Stripped your Avon faith? A sheet metal screw would have got any tire... I don't get the connection. Did you find more holes beyond the screw? :dntknw:
It's about the Cosmos. 27,000 worry-free miles, then one day after reading about Carver's sieves, mine gets perforated. Coincidence? A fool believes.....

 
Stripped your Avon faith? A sheet metal screw would have got any tire... I don't get the connection. Did you find more holes beyond the screw? :dntknw:
It's about the Cosmos. 27,000 worry-free miles, then one day after reading about Carver's sieves, mine gets perforated. Coincidence? A fool believes.....
Step on a crack, break...???

Black cats???

Walking under ladders???

Breaking a mirror will bring you bad 7yrs. luck???

Mount an Avon???

I dunno, T.C., a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I'd more believe its Don, with his FJT Voodoo Doll, sticking pins in the tires. Y'all got something interpersonal goin' on you'd like to confess share? :dribble:

 
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Stripped your Avon faith? A sheet metal screw would have got any tire... I don't get the connection. Did you find more holes beyond the screw? :dntknw:
It's about the Cosmos. 27,000 worry-free miles, then one day after reading about Carver's sieves, mine gets perforated. Coincidence? A fool believes.....
Step on a crack, break...???

Black cats???

Walking under ladders???

Breaking a mirror will bring you bad 7yrs. luck???

Mount an Avon???

I dunno, T.C., a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I'd more believe its Don, with his FJT Voodoo Doll, sticking pins in the tires. Y'all got something interpersonal goin' on you'd like to confess share? :dribble:
Careful MaduumusMikeus... or the voodoo doll will be you! :unsure: ...so, just went out to check the bike.. surprisingly enough none of the freaking holes have magically healed themselves, even though I put the entire bike on the healing bench..

 
Stripped your Avon faith? A sheet metal screw would have got any tire... I don't get the connection. Did you find more holes beyond the screw? :dntknw:
It's about the Cosmos. 27,000 worry-free miles, then one day after reading about Carver's sieves, mine gets perforated. Coincidence? A fool believes.....
Maybe I should rethink my ride with Kieth tomorrow? :unsure: After all, I've read about Carver's and your woes! :eek:hno-smiley: Besides, wadaya got to worry about? You have one of the biggest karma accounts I know!

 
I'm getting a set of Avon Storms put on as we speak. Avon has a warranty for the tires? Nothing about it on their website. Can someone please fill me in?

 
I'm getting a set of Avon Storms put on as we speak. Avon has a warranty for the tires? Nothing about it on their website. Can someone please fill me in?
Road hazard damage in the first 1mm of treadwear gets you a free replacement. Mine's at least 3 or 4 mm into itself. :ermm:

Maybe I should rethink my ride with Kieth tomorrow?
As long as it's not Keithaba, you should be OK. :lol:

 
I dunno, T.C., a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I'd more believe its Don, with his FJT Voodoo Doll, sticking pins in the tires. Y'all got something interpersonal goin' on you'd like to confess share? :dribble:

Well now, that explains all the tire issues happening around the board. Don's Voodoo Doll! And here we thought is was just bum tires. Don knock it off will ya. PM. <>< :blink:

 
Well, just put a new set of tires on (Had the dealer do it. Roseville Yamaha. Zac Mickel is the Service Manager and he is great!. He did the 17 mpg fix and put a new Yamaha Top box mount on. Will be a while till the new Yamaha Top Box will be in, mine was cracked and will be replaced with a new one.) But I digress.

The head shake which has plagued me since new and became much worse with the Avon Storms, is GONE. I had a very mild head shake with the OEM tires (Z-6's?). Much more pronounced with the FIRST set of Avon Storms. Oddly enough in the last 1,000 miles of wear the head shake actually lessened. Worst at exactly 50 mph, to the point that you wouldn't want to take both hands off the bars.

Well, put a NEW set of Avons Storms on (I bought them long ago, just in case.) and there is absolutely NO head shake. Bike is stable as a rock, any speed accelerating or decelerating. :clapping:

I got 7,000 miles on the rear. The front still had a lot of tread left, but was developing "weird" wear patterns (Kind of like "troughs" on either side of the center strip and some cupping. The cupping only occurred at one location and resulted in a wobble or bump, noticeable at walking speeds. I assume that was part of my 'head shake'.)

Bottom line; what was/is the difference? It could be the tires, but I'm kinda leaning toward the the theory the technician that installed this set of Avon's tires did a "better" job of it. The first time they (a Honda dealer) installed the first set of Avon Storms did so "on the ground" on the center stand. He didn't follow any particular "formula" when remounting the tire and rim. Perhaps the Yamaha tech (a five star) followed an approved sequence of remounting wheels. I noticed he did use a torque wrench while doing the warranty work.

One comment regarding RideOn TPS (tire protection system). I got a nail in the rear Avon Storm in the first 1,000-2,000 miles. I plugged and patched it from the inside and ran it all the way out. I was through the center wear bar, but no cord showing yet. At any rate, when I plugged it I decided to put RideON in. I sprayed the rim with an anti corrosive spray (Honda brand) put the TPS in and replaced the air with helium. I get the helium free and use a little tank which I get filled free at Costco. The tank allows me to maintain my tires with helium. One tank full has been enough to fill and maintain my tires through the last 5-6000 miles of use. I was curious as to whether there would be any corrosion and asked Zac to let me examine the wheel. I even offered to clean the wheel off to save his technician the headache (if any).

Well, unfortunately by the time Zac got to his technician he had already replaced the tires. I did get a chance to talk to the technician and ask him if there was any sign of corrosion. The technician said the wheel looked like "new" and it was no problem washing the RideOn off the rim. Someday I will get a chance to look for myself. Based on these results, I'm going to put RideOn in both front and rear. It has saved my a%# 3 times so far and I am sold on it. :clapping: YMMV Since I can see I'll be replacing tires 2-3 times a year I don't think corrosion will be a problem.

Bottom line the Storms are better than the OEM Z whatever's that came with the bike. However, I kinda like the the idea of a ME880 rear with a softer front tire. I think I will try that combination next. Perhaps I'll even try the latest greatest "Cheapo" milage tire. I'm constantly watching the tire threads. One thing for sure, with this bike I'll get plenty of chances to "test" different tires.

LC

 
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