Darkside or not to Darkside.

[Bungie]

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/10-reference-faq-forum/400426-design-differences-between-car-motorcycle-rim-tire.html

Found this is some random surfing. I'll leave it for you to decide if running a car tire on a bike is a good idea. I have made up my mind (though I still have a CT on my 04).

 

[user 86528]

I'm going to try Lightsiding. I'll be fitting some m/c tyres on my car. Terrible mileage from them I expect but it should go round corners like its on rails!

 

[Fred W]

That post was far too long to read all the way through. But I think I get the gist of what he is saying.

As you know, I am not a fan of dark-siding. But, I have to say that I have never heard of a car tire coming off of a motorcycle rim (unintentionally) even with the far lower pressures than is normally used on a moto-tire. So, although he and his resources make excellent points about the bead locking functional designs being non-optimal, they just do not seem to actually matter in the real world application.

IMO, the real problem with running car tire on a motorcycle that leans to turn is that it screws up the geometry that determines handling of the motorcycle, this due to the cross sectional shape of the tire. He never even addresses that side of it (from what I could tell).

 

[dcarver]

That's a good read.

 

[Auburn]

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/10-reference-faq-forum/400426-design-differences-between-car-motorcycle-rim-tire.html
Found this is some random surfing. I'll leave it for you to decide if running a car tire on a bike is a good idea. I have made up my mind (though I still have a CT on my 04).

Great read. Wish I could understand all of what was said. The engineering behind it all is amazing.

 

[ionbeam]

Wellalrightynow. I tried to swallow the whole book but my eyes wore out. I sprayed it with Bull Shit Spray which normally reduces these articles to a few words, but the tome remained. There is a great listing of 'facts' from which 'information' is distilled out. While a lot is presented I'm not sure progress was made. The whole time I was looking through the thesis that runs about the length of War and Peace, I had an image in my head that wouldn't go away............

 

[Bungie]

Just a side note. I'm not staying with M/C tires for safety or engineering reasons. I'm staying with them because my bike handles like shit with a C/T on. (though I will admit the Xalto handles much better than my first kick at the can. Still socks donkey-dick though).

 

[RossKean]

I have done the car tire thing (25,000 miles) and, like Bungie, it was not my cup of tea (for most applications). I would still consider throwing one back on the bike for a major tour where I didn't want to have to be concerned with swapping a tire before getting home. The referenced post appears to provide a lot of information that suggests that a car tire is BAD without providing real evidence that it is unsafe - accidents or failures. Maybe we can discuss for 41 pages (like they did) to see if we can all come to some kind of agreement.

 

[bgross]

Thanks for the link.

The article reads like an exhibit that a lawyer's "expert witness" would throw at a jury to impress/baffle/bore them to tears. Looks impressive/baffling/ boring on paper and might convince those with an intellectual inferiority complex, or who believe anything that their favorite politician/priest/infomercial salesman tells them.

The opposing lawyer would introduce his "expert" who would simply point out the "thousands of Darksiders with tens of millions of miles of actual riding experience who have never, ever experienced any of the dire consequences suggested by "scientists".

Now, about those WMDs....

 

[HotRodZilla]

That Goldwing guy is what us Mexicans refer to as "Full of Shit." Yet another jackass that loves to hear himself talk. Imagine being trapped with that toolbox in an airplane for 16 hours.

Big words and drawings do not a smart man make.

 

[Fred W]

Wellalrightynow. I tried to swallow the whole book but my eyes wore out. I sprayed it with Bull Shit Spray which normally reduces these articles to a few words, but the tome remained. There is a great listing of 'facts' from which 'information' is distilled out. While a lot is presented I'm not sure progress was made. The whole time I was looking through the thesis that runs about the length of War and Peace, I had an image in my head that wouldn't go away............

Yeah, you got me to watch. Pretty funny really. :thumbsup:

"Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!"

 

[rushes]

Is this a NEPRT test?

 

[ionbeam]

Yeah, you got me to watch. Pretty funny really...."Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!"

The tire analysis kinda reminded me of the Battle of Wits, to the Death.

 

[Fred W]

Yeah, you got me to watch. Pretty funny really...."Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!"

The tire analysis kinda reminded me of the Battle of Wits, to the Death.

I got that. The unfortunate problem is, stuff like that never dies.

 

[ionbeam]

I got that. The unfortunate problem is, stuff like that never dies.

Well, the last time we launched a thread on tire tread we spawned the mother of all NEPRT with a still ongoing 182 page Frankenstein that never lives or dies.

Car tire...bike tire...car tire...bike tire, let me help with the ultimate decision maker. One way you win, and the other way you don't lose.

 

[Justin]

One way you win, and the other way you don't lose.

:lol:

 

[majicmaker]

No Darksiding for me.

 

[RadioHowie]

ME EITHER!!!

(car tire on a motorcycle...what a dumbass idea)

 

[SoCalFJR1300]

Just a side note. I'm not staying with M/C tires for safety or engineering reasons. I'm staying with them because my bike handles like shit with a C/T on. (though I will admit the Xalto handles much better than my first kick at the can. Still socks donkey-dick though).

I agree with you on the handling but it's funny, the guys that use them say they handle fine.