Do they make shop manuals for cars too?

[ponyfool]

I am wanting to locate the daytime running lights relay for my new Grand Prix (2007). I don't like that the DRLs are the low beams. I want to change it to the front fogs or the high beams. I figure the DRL relay is the place to start.

Any idea how/where to get a shop manual?

 

[radman]

Complete GM Factory Service Manual Set

Hunnert and sixty beans, but since you just got the car, it will be money well spent and still valuable when you sell it.

 

[SilverHound]

Damn! I was pissed that the FJR Manual was $80. I just looked up the manual for my Dodge Magnum at that link...$425!!! Yipes! Glad I only work on my bikes.

 

[v65]

Complete GM Factory Service Manual Set
Hunnert and sixty beans, but since you just got the car, it will be money well spent and still valuable when you sell it.

Ever use their online manuals?

 

[HotRodZilla]

Cant you just get a Clymer Manual at an auto parts store? My dad has taken his 1983 Nissan truck apart and put it back together twice using his.

 

[ponyfool]

I want specific wiring diagrams, etc. My car has DRLs that are on the low beams with reduced voltage. I want to replace the low beams with HIDs and you can't run HIDs on reduced voltage, so I want to rewire the DRLs so they are on the high beam lights at reduced voltage instead.

Plus, I would like to have everything the wrench monkey has when something goes wrong with the car.

 

[C&C]

Whenever I get a new vehicle, one of my first purchases is the shop manual (if it saves you one trip to the dealer or repair shop you get your money back). Here's where I go: www.helminc.com

 

[user 213]

Pony - Take a run down to Powells Books downtown and you will probably be able to find a used manual for much cheaper. Often in great to perfect shape. Might want to find out what years are the same first in case they group years together or sell individual year manuals. A year or two off may be the same, or not. You'll want to know that ahead of time.

 

[Bounce]

I just went through this with my Subaru STi. The shop manuals are very expensive and would deforest a small planet if printed out. You can't access the details that you find in our $60 FJR manual on-line without a hefty subscription (that they figure only a dealership or other high-volume service shop could justify).

What I found was that all the manuals (several each for interior, exterior, electrical, engine, transmission, EFI, traction control, AWD, and so forth) are available on-line in searchable PDF format. Once again, they charge a subscription fee that is insane for the garage mechanic. However they had a 48 hour trial subscription for about $45. I bought that, got on line and downloaded the **** out of all the different PDF files as quickly as I could. I got them all but they were broken down into very small pieces so it took a little determination to get them.

The main problem in using them is that you have to narrow down what part of all these documents is needed for the item you're researching. Once you get to the right PDF file, you can search for the details but until then it's a hunting expedition.

I would guess they would be about equal (in pages) to one of those long catalog collections you see and parts counters.

The point is that they are much better than any Clymer. Which is why most people would choose a factory service manual in the first place. Perhaps if you search the factory web site you'll find something similar.

 

[El Toro]

Whenever I get a new vehicle, one of my first purchases is the shop manual (if it saves you one trip to the dealer or repair shop you get your money back). Here's where I go: www.helminc.com

I used to always buy the shop manual for my cars and trucks too. Helm was the most common source I used dating back as long ago as when War Child first changed the coolant on a motorcycle.

Helm used to be the official supplier for some of the US auto companies.

 

[radman]

Whenever I get a new vehicle, one of my first purchases is the shop manual (if it saves you one trip to the dealer or repair shop you get your money back). Here's where I go: www.helminc.com

I used to always buy the shop manual for my cars and trucks too. Helm was the most common source I used dating back as long ago as when War Child first changed the coolant on a motorcycle.

Helm used to be the official supplier for some of the US auto companies.

And still is AFAIK. Hell, Helm shows it for $25 less. Wasup with that?