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Pretty cool and filled a niche. They really needed to add XM for the road warriors. :fans:

 
From the link:

Zumo 665: Have a rider in the family? The 665 is Garmin's latest motorcycle-centric nav unit, which appears to be little more than a 660 with the XM weather, radio (with A2DP out), and traffic on board. It's got a slightly newer firmware build than the current 660 that adds additional map layouts and data fields; and don't worry, 660 owners -- you'll get it in the Spring.
 
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What does that last bit about 660 owners mean? Could it be that it can be upgraded to support the new features (with the exception on the onboard traffic, I suppose)?

And, here they go adding even more junk to the box when they can't get what they already have working properly.

The 660 was quite late and got rushed out the door so they wouldn;t lose the riding season last year and the product has suffered as a consequence.

So I'm watching this with interest.

My buddy who is one of Garmin's largest distributors and I were discussing upgrading to the new model just the other day - his recommendation was to sit tight and wait to see what they release, when they release it, what it will cost and how well it will work.

 
I think it means that everything but the new XM features will go to the 660.

Here is the official release from Garmin that hit the world this morning.

Olathe, Kan./January 5, 2010/Business Wire — Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation, today announced the zūmo 665 – a new fully touchscreen motorcycle navigator that includes an antenna for XM Satellite Radio®, real-time XM NavWeather® and real-time XM NavTraffic®. To receive the XM Satellite information, an optional subscription is required. The zūmo 665 is being announced in conjunction with the 2010 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas (Garmin booth, South Hall 4, #35832).

“For entertainment or information, the zūmo 665 makes every road trip more enjoyable and stress-free,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “From back roads to rallies, you can listen to the radio, check the weather and move ahead of traffic as you travel down the road.”

The zūmo 665 comes standard with the GXM 40 XM antenna – simply add an optional XM subscription and you can receive real-time XM Satellite Radio with 170 digital channels of commercial-free music, news, sports, talk and entertainment along with 20 dedicated channels of XM Instant Traffic and Weather when you travel in the United States. With the addition of XM NavWeather, you can access up-to-the-minute weather data and NEXRAD radar graphics from your map screen to stay ahead of the storm. Plus, when you add on XM NavTraffic, you can find out where the trouble spots are and route around them. For a list of the XM Satellite subscription service plans and packages offered, visit www.garmin.com/xm.

Whether you’re riding during a bright day or a moonless night, the zūmo 665 has motorcycle-friendly features any rider will appreciate. With a 4.3” touchscreen color display, the zūmo 665 puts all the information you need in an easy-to-read format as you travel down the road and features a glove-friendly intuitive interface that makes entering information as easy as shifting gears. This durable and waterproof (IPX 7 standards) device comes preloaded with detailed, street-level maps of the United States, Canada and Puerto Rico with over six million points of interest including gas stations, lodging, restaurants, attractions and more. The zūmo 665 speaks street names and will deliver turn-by-turn, voice prompted directions, such as “turn right on Main Street,” via the built-in speaker headphone jack or through a compatible Bluetooth helmet or headset.

This motorcycle-friendly navigator also comes equipped with advanced routing capabilities such as lane assist with junction view that guides riders to the correct lane for an approaching turn or exit, and realistically displays road signs and junctions on the route along with arrows that indicate the proper lane for navigation. In some major metropolitan areas, surrounding buildings are displayed in a 3D transparent view.

The zūmo 665 also has enhanced Bluetooth Wireless Technology with A2DP support for streaming audio in high quality stereo sound, and makes it possible to receive and place phone calls as well as receive navigation cues wirelessly to Bluetooth enabled headsets or helmets. With Bluetooth, riders are free to safely talk on their phone without having to remove their gloves or helmet. For last-minute change of plans or a quick pit stop for food, users can also make calls from the zūmo’s huge points of interest database.

While riding, it’s also easy to access trip information directly from the zūmo’s trip information page like speed, heading, altitude, and a customizable fuel gage that can be modified to the motorcycle’s maximum fuel range. In addition, with the zūmo’s powerful trip planning tools, zūmo owners can create and custom routes via computer and then transfer the save route directly to the zūmo before they begin their journey.

The zūmo 665 is expected to be available in the first quarter of 2010 for $999.99. For additional information, visit www.garmin.com.

About Garmin International Inc.

Garmin International Inc. is a subsidiary of Garmin Ltd. (Nasdaq: GRMN), the global leader in satellite navigation. Since 1989, this group of companies has designed, manufactured, marketed and sold navigation, communication and information devices and applications – most of which are enabled by GPS technology. Garmin’s products serve automotive, mobile, wireless, outdoor recreation, marine, aviation, and OEM applications. Garmin Ltd. is incorporated in the Cayman Islands, and its principal subsidiaries are located in the United States, Taiwan and the United Kingdom. For more information, visit Garmin's virtual pressroom at www.garmin.com/pressroom or contact the Media Relations department at 913-397-8200. Garmin and zūmo are registered trademarks and GXM is a trademark of Garmin Ltd. or its subsidiaries. XM Satellite Radio, XM NavWeather and XM NavTraffic are registered trademarks of XM Satellite Radio Inc.

All other brands, product names, company names, trademarks and service marks are the properties of their respective owners. All rights reserved.

Notice on forward-looking statements:

This release includes forward-looking statements regarding Garmin Ltd. and its business. All statements regarding the company’s future product introductions are forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on management's current expectations. The forward-looking events and circumstances discussed in this release may not occur and actual results could differ materially as a result of known and unknown risk factors and uncertainties affecting Garmin, including, but not limited to, the risk factors listed in the Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 27, 2008, filed by Garmin with the Securities and Exchange Commission (Commission file number 0-31983). A copy of Garmin’s Form 10-K can be downloaded at www.garmin.com/aboutGarmin/invRelations/finReports.html. No forward-looking statement can be guaranteed. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date on which they are made and Garmin undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

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It's on the Garmin web site now. Too bad the manuals haven't been posted yet.

I will go out on a limb and say that I think the 665 is simply what the 660 WILL be (with a to-be-released firmware update) but that it is bundled with the GXM40 radio/antenna. The pricing certainly supports the hypothesis - the retail price of the GXM-40 is $268 and the 665 will retail for $200 more than the 660.

The 665 has the code for the MSN Direct service stripped away and it is replaced with the XM support - and those are simply software libraries that get linked into the code. I'm much more interested in the comments about map options and configurability.

There's no internal hardware in the 660 to support the XM radio - it plugs in to the 'USB' connector (in quotes because the only thing it really shares with USB is the connector and power connections) at the end of the umbilical (bike-mounted) or the cradle (car mount).

 
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I like what I'm seeing and agree with bramFrank about what it basically is.

I never could figure out why they stripped XM off when they went to the 660. The 665 list price is less than what I originally paid for my 550 plus the GXM-30. Too bad the 550 and 665 don't use the same XM receiver, would have been nice to be able to swap the receiver from the 550 to the 665 and vice versa if one of them on the bike went down.

I sent a note to J&M to see if they have any plans of supporting the 665 with the CFRG modules for the CB-2003. Right now they say the CFRG-D-CA04 that I have says it is for the 550 only. Maybe I'll get lucky and it will work as is.

 
The 665 is listed for for $995 plus on presale. I guess it comes with a 1080p display that replaces your windscreen?

Another hint I need to sell my Garmin stock. Maybe I'll have enough to buy a share or 2 of GooG.

 
John from J&M got back to me about the integration of the 665 with the CB-2003 his email is quoted below.

I have heard about the new 665 Zumo but have not seen one yet ,,,,,,
Sure sounds exciting though ,,, so we will see what garmin actually delivers when the time comes ,,,,,,
 
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