Experience or Judgment

[BobbyBlue]

Wow....so sorry to read about this...my 23 year old son rides...Makes me think my old man wasnt so dumb when he bought me a new 76 RD-250 at 15 instead of that Z-1 I wanted sooo bad...16 is pretty grown up these days..at 17 your *** can get shot off in Iraq or Afganistan and there isnt any draft.....still so sad though...my heart goes out to the families of all affected...We ride on....

Blessings,

Bobby

 

[oldryder]

definitely judgement. judgement is what keeps you from getting in over your head. Once in over your head MAYBE experience (and skill and reflexes and dumb luck) can save you.

I'd wager a considerable sum that virtually any male that was riding a motorcycle as a young man can relate at least one (and probably many more) stories of times they came close to some disaster or another thru poor judgement.

I would say an R1 for a 16 year old us just a BAAAAAAD idea!

 

[ctfjr]

Its a sad story all around. My thoughts go out to his parents. From the story it sounds like the father knew the kid was doing stunts & high speed riding with the bike . . . There aren't a lot of 16 year olds that I know/knew who exhibited good judgement all the time.

When I bought my son his 1st bike it was a ujm, a used 750 Nighthawk. As much as I wanted him to ride then I always worried. Now its 15 years later & we are planning a 2 week ride together.

Bottom line the kid's judgement should not have been unexpected, the father could have thought about this a little more.

Its sad anyway you look at it.

 

[boomerang]

Well, this puts this quote in perspective :
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement

Hopefully you have good enough judgment not to get in so far over your head that you live through the experience.

 

[ponyfool]

Judgment is more important because all experience does is shape your judgment.

 

[kulwen]

In my opinion, good judgment is more important than experience.

I think both are important.

Good judgement means not showing off or going to fast.

Experience means knowing in a panic situation means keeping a cool enough head to pull in the clutch.

Knowing experience takes years of street riding good judgement should have been to get a bike with less HP.

I wish the best for the family.

 

[Clark Kent]

Sad, very sad....I've never know very many 16 yr olds that had the maturity for good judgment. I know I didn't.

An R1?

I'm thankful all I had at 16 was a '73 XL250. It got me in enough trouble.

Very few 16 year old boys have ANY judgement. They have only testosterone!

This is terribly classis. Why do you think the auto rates and bike rates for 16 year old boys are astronomical? Because they don't think. AND, they feel they are invincible.

The kids with the hot Hondas do the same thing steet racing.

My son told me when he was 18 and in College he would always wear his leathers and helmet at all times when he rode. So he took his bike to school. I drove 250 miles to his school one day and just sat on main street for his classes to get out.

Sure enough, he came down main street (in the fall) with his buddies. He was wearing swimming trunks and flip flops! That was all he had on!

I flagged him down and he SH-T is pants (the only thing he had on.) I had his buddies help load his bike in my truck (right there on main street) (bike was in my name) and I took it home. He walked back to his apt. as I told him if he even thought of getting on one of his buddies bikes as a passanger without full gear, he would have to pay for the rest of his college by himself!

He got his bike for a Grad. present. (saved me a ton on insurance and the cost of a gift!) AND my son is still alive and STILL pissed at his dad! (too bad)

 

[WinnipegTechGuy]

Well, this puts this quote in perspective :
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement

+1

Great Quote

 

[weekend rider]

Wow loss of life for what an error in judgement from the father or lack of experience being a father???

So sad either way..

I like what Clark Kent did for his son, took the bike and saved a life great job on that one.

That is how I treated my son. He wrecked the truck that I let him drive Keys were on the table when he got home snd the stuff hit the fan instead of me hitting him and he knows it. Now he is married and has his own son to worry about. And you know I am going to be the first to buy him a motorcycle and he will be my ridding partner......