F-15 One Wing Miracle Landing
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E1Allen
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Thats pretty crazy. I'm no fighter pilot but I'm guessing that the other wing wasn't providing much lift. Hard to believe the whole thing didn't go Poof!
zzzzip
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vectervp1
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Rogue
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WOW!
WOW indeed.
one talented pilot there.....
but not really so surprising given that military fighters (most of them) actually get very little lift from their wing shape.
they almost all rely on a high AOA in order to generate the required lift.
they have to fly fast and at a high angle of attack in order to stay in the sky.
sure, it would have been as unstable as all hell, and not fun.
probably not many pilots that wouldnt have banged out asap.
he's got some big brass ones that's for sure.....
jason
one talented pilot there.....
but not really so surprising given that military fighters (most of them) actually get very little lift from their wing shape.
they almost all rely on a high AOA in order to generate the required lift.
they have to fly fast and at a high angle of attack in order to stay in the sky.
sure, it would have been as unstable as all hell, and not fun.
probably not many pilots that wouldnt have banged out asap.
he's got some big brass ones that's for sure.....
jason
I saw another report on this one. Pilot indeed said if he had known he would have bailed. Not until on ground did they see the real damage. US team went over to inspect because they couldn't believe it was possible to fly with that much damage. Just goes to show that with enough thrust anythign can fly.
madmike2
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I watched a program about our new high performance fighter aircraft on PBS. Most of them are extremely unstable and can only be flown because of the onboard computers making constant adjustments. I'm sure this greatly helped...along with the thrust. Our engineers can make a brick fly provided they have large enough engines. Wings and ailerons are for steering rather than lift.
feejer222
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My FJR has no wings and it flies OK ^_^
Impressive stuff.
Impressive stuff.
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OrangevaleFJR
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You can thank a modern day genius for the F-15 being able to fly with half a wing gone. John Boyd was an Air Force (USAF) Colonel that had perhaps one of the most incredible military careers since Sun Tzu and frankly, has had a greater impact on military strategy, maneuvers, equipment and capability than any other single man.
Among other incredible accomplishments, he developed the forumulas that were used, and are still used to create military fighters. He identified flaws in previous aerodynamic technology and was highly instrumental in the designs of the FB-111, F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18. He passed on but his aerodynamic physics lives on. Of course, the brass in the Pentagon had his designs altered for various political reasons. The F-16 is longer and has a larger wing surface that the YF-16. The F-18 was only supposed to have one engine...the Navy wouldn't have it. Despite the changes that made the aircraft perform worse than originally designed by Boyd, they were ALL still HUGE leaps above anything else in the world.
Obviously, the F-15 was designed so that the entire surface area, even the fuselage, is a lift generating surface. It also has many hydraulic back up systems for sustainability. Great bird.
John Boyd also has a statue of him in Quantico! Yes! He introduced the ground battle strategies used by the US Marines since Panama and the Gulf War. A USAF Colonel!
He was also a fighter pilot instructor at Nellis in the USAF Fighter Pilot training school and he re-wrote the book for air to air combat, knowing full well that the F-4 not having guns was a huge mistake, he was punished for coming out against the new fighter. He was reagarded world wide as the best fighter pilot in the world, and he never flew in combat!
When asked about his fantastic career, and never making General he said, "There are only two options in the US Military, you can decide to actually accomplish something, or you can accomplish rank. You cannot achieve both."
Sorry, but when I see videos like this being commented on, I just have to give credit where credit is due. John Boyd, the modern military genius, the most significant military mind since Sun Tzu. IMHO.
He was from Erie, PA.
By the way, Israeli fighter pilots are among the very best in the wolrd...they get a lot of practice
Among other incredible accomplishments, he developed the forumulas that were used, and are still used to create military fighters. He identified flaws in previous aerodynamic technology and was highly instrumental in the designs of the FB-111, F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18. He passed on but his aerodynamic physics lives on. Of course, the brass in the Pentagon had his designs altered for various political reasons. The F-16 is longer and has a larger wing surface that the YF-16. The F-18 was only supposed to have one engine...the Navy wouldn't have it. Despite the changes that made the aircraft perform worse than originally designed by Boyd, they were ALL still HUGE leaps above anything else in the world.
Obviously, the F-15 was designed so that the entire surface area, even the fuselage, is a lift generating surface. It also has many hydraulic back up systems for sustainability. Great bird.
John Boyd also has a statue of him in Quantico! Yes! He introduced the ground battle strategies used by the US Marines since Panama and the Gulf War. A USAF Colonel!
He was also a fighter pilot instructor at Nellis in the USAF Fighter Pilot training school and he re-wrote the book for air to air combat, knowing full well that the F-4 not having guns was a huge mistake, he was punished for coming out against the new fighter. He was reagarded world wide as the best fighter pilot in the world, and he never flew in combat!
When asked about his fantastic career, and never making General he said, "There are only two options in the US Military, you can decide to actually accomplish something, or you can accomplish rank. You cannot achieve both."
Sorry, but when I see videos like this being commented on, I just have to give credit where credit is due. John Boyd, the modern military genius, the most significant military mind since Sun Tzu. IMHO.
He was from Erie, PA.
By the way, Israeli fighter pilots are among the very best in the wolrd...they get a lot of practice
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ScrapeApe
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OrangevaleFJR
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People that fight for a living generally need to think of themselves as the best. If they don't, they kinda resolve to die as they go into battle and how many people can keep that mentality up for very long?
ScrapeApe
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I'm not degrading the spirit of our fighting forces. As an F-15 maintainer, I know first hand the attitudes of Eagle drivers. There has not been an air-to-air "kill" since the first Gulf War. Our pilots are well trained, the best. The true spirit lies within the Marines and Soldiers. Those are the guys on the battlefront as I type this. Sure, there are a few Hog and Viper drivers gettin "down" in it, but their numbers pale in comparison to our ground forces. There are more fighter pilots on golf courses today than flying combat missions................
Gary
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I was an avionics tech on 15's from '81 til '92. It's one of the last fighters that was "stable", meaning it didn't need computer intervention to be flown.
The ailerons are hydraulically driven, but controlled by old-fashioned cables, pulleys, and sectors. The stabs (elevators) have dual control, augmented (computer intervention to balance stick input with airspeed/density, so you get more deflection at lower speeds and more subtle deflection as speeds increase) and unaugmented, old-school manual control.
In training to maintain flight controls they used to show a video of a test pilot intentionally inducing a spin, then releasing the controls. If he has enough altitude, the plane will recover straight & level, all he had to do was release the stick.
Newer designs won't do this without the computer helping. They're unstable in 1 or more axis, with the flight control system constantly interpreting pilot input and making corrections to keep the plane under control.
The ailerons are hydraulically driven, but controlled by old-fashioned cables, pulleys, and sectors. The stabs (elevators) have dual control, augmented (computer intervention to balance stick input with airspeed/density, so you get more deflection at lower speeds and more subtle deflection as speeds increase) and unaugmented, old-school manual control.
In training to maintain flight controls they used to show a video of a test pilot intentionally inducing a spin, then releasing the controls. If he has enough altitude, the plane will recover straight & level, all he had to do was release the stick.
Newer designs won't do this without the computer helping. They're unstable in 1 or more axis, with the flight control system constantly interpreting pilot input and making corrections to keep the plane under control.
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