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Bagger

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Picked up the FJR 'round 2-3ish Saturday and did 150 miles on it. Here are some of my first impressions....

Power: The bike is really powerful, it's no Busa, but compared to the VTX and Gl1800 Wing, it's a rocket! Like Fred, I found that I rode this puppy tooooo fast. I run '10 over' with the Wing, but the FJR is difficult to keep below '20 over'. I'm not sure this is a good thing. I've not twisted the go handle wide open, but did run it to 6500 in several gears.... and there was plenty left! Most running yesterday was from 30 in town to 85 in the Super Slab. I'm impressed with the bikes power compared with other rides I have.

Handling: The bike really handles well. Seems well balanced in slow maneuvers and slips into the other lane for passing like budda. Coming from a Wing (that I think handles like a BIG sport tourer), the FJR feels extremely light and well planted. Side wind does cause the bike to move rather harshly. Much more than the Wing that I've ridden in high winds and movement was less upsetting.... of course the Wing is a couple hundred elbs heavier than the FJR.

Ergonomics: Wow... this is an area that I don't particularly like. The riding position set at the dealer (which I have no idea what setting the front spring load, shocks, bars, seat, yada, yada) was not conducive to my old bones. With in a few miles my right thumb, then right fingers were numb. Weight is transferred from my bum to my hands. This needs changing. The slope of the sticky seat causes my pants to ride up and squishes my nards. I changed the low setting of the saddle to the high end and that helped a bit. I'm 6'2" 220# with a 34" inseam and 35" shirt sleeve for comparison. My back was killing me after 50 miles. A backrest will be necessary as will a custom saddle. I have always used a backrest and had ergos done to the saddles of my rides. My back sucks. The bars need to be moved UP and back... for me at least.

Transmission/throttle: Tranny is smooth on take off. Smoother than any bike I've ridden. Gear engagement is pretty smooth, too. Changing gears, however, requires some throttle control. Maybe I'll get better at it, but I noticed a herky-jerkey deal going on when up shifting. Not to my liking. Throttle tension is excessive.... throttle rocker will be needed for longer rides, IMO. Don't know if it can be adjusted.

Dash: Kewl dash! I like all the information that can be had at a glance. Speedo numerals are a bit smallish for my old eyes, tho. One problem is that I wear polarized Rx sunglasses under my visor and the FJR's info screen is difficult to read at a glance. Same with my cages. 45.6 mpg? Found that odd. Didn't check other info, like instant mpg as I don't really care about that.

Other stuff....

Horn: What a piece of crap. The Wing has the only horn I tho't befitted a motorcycle. The FJRs is pretty dim. I've added a Wing horn to my VTX and may try to do so with the FJR. I know Fred has upgraded.

Fit and finish: I like the color of the bike. Didn't think I would, but it's pretty nice. In some light (or lack of it) it's almost black. I like it. I would have preferred to have a choice, however. Fitment is good. As with all clear coats, the clear is 'soft'. Some side tank deals will be necessary to keep things from scratching it. One does need to watch swinging a leg over the FJR. The right saddle bag will take the brunt of an errant boot.

Oil change/filter change looks pretty straight forward. Kewl. I'll switch to synthetic after the 600 mile dealer deal.

There should be a shroud over the left side exhaust pipe. Too close to the side stand 'handle' and I already have black marks to remove.

Heat: depending on the wind direction, I can feel some heat on my left thigh/leg. But, not excessive.... more than the Wing, but not a big deal. It was only in the mid-70s and I was running at 55-65 most of the time, so I'm sure in town this may be more of an issue, but who does this?

Brakes: Very good compared with other bikes I've ridden. The Wing has linked breaks (no ABS) and the FJRs feel better, but are a bit 'sticky'. Will take a bit of time to get used to, but lever feel is good.

Clutch pull: I dialed it back a bunch...5 ... for the shortest throw. I didn't find it excessive. Same/same with the brake lever.

I have the suspension set on 'soft'... came that way. Feels pretty good, but there is front end 'dive' on braking. That may be something that can be dialed out with adjustment.

Haven't read the manual, yet.... you know how it is. Read or ride.

I know that I have to do something about the bars. Manual did say that the dealer had to adjust the bars. Maybe someone can tell me how to DIY.

Anyway, this is long enuf ..... more later if anyone's interested.

BAGGER

 
I know that I have to do something about the bars. Manual did say that the dealer had to adjust the bars. Maybe someone can tell me how to DIY.
Bagger,

Congrats on your new machine !!

There was a thread last week about adjusting the bars -

06 Handlebar Adjustment

I did it myself last Friday - took me about 10 minutes. And it's a 6mm, not a 7mm.

Take your time - look at things, understand how it works. Not a difficult job at all.

This will move them back - but I would still like to have them about 1" higher. Someone out there is going to have to design a riser for these.

Enoy !! :D

 
Side wind does cause the bike to move rather harshly.
I agree that the FJR can be a handful in heavy cross winds, especially loaded and passenger aboard. Others here will disagree with us both.

With in a few miles my right thumb, then right fingers were numb. Weight is transferred from my bum to my hands. This needs changing.
A couple things seem to contribute to this. Small diameter grips, throttle spring tension(both can be changed/adjusted), not using your body to keep weight transfered off your hands. Releasing a tight grip on the throttle will help as well.

A backrest will be necessary as will a custom saddle.
Not sure how this will help when riding as the position is a forward one. It could be used though if want to sit up in the seat every once and a while. Custom saddle for sure though if you want to do any amount of long distance riding.

Transmission/throttle: Tranny is smooth on take off. Smoother than any bike I've ridden. Gear engagement is pretty smooth, too. Changing gears, however, requires some throttle control. Maybe I'll get better at it, but I noticed a herky-jerkey deal going on when up shifting. Not to my liking.
The FJR does not enjoy being shifted slow or at low rpm's. Not sure about the "herkey-jerkey" symptoms you descride, maybe your lugging the motor?

Horn: What a piece of crap.
You got that right!! Follow this link to change your perception of a motorcycle horn.

LOUD *** mofo bike horn

I know that I have to do something about the bars.
Later this week I will be looking to see how feasible manufacturing handlebar risers are for the '06. I'll let you know what I find.

 
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skyway - let me know about the risers, too. I'm thinking about an inch, too. I'll try a different combination today (headed out in a couple of minutes). I already have mine in the most upright position and would be more comfy with at least another inch.

 
skyway - let me know about the risers, too. I'm thinking about an inch, too. I'll try a different combination today (headed out in a couple of minutes). I already have mine in the most upright position and would be more comfy with at least another inch.
+1

Put me on that list, too !! :D

 
Well, found the tread regarding changing the handle bar position. Who has a 2.5 mm allen wrench? I don't. Made do with something else from my Chinese tool collection.

Took me about 30 minutes. Probably because repositioning the bars was not all that EZ what with the wires/cables yada, yada. But, they are now positioned in the 'back position'.

Saddle is in the high position as well. Added a Throttle Boss, too. Going out for a ride in the wind so I'll check back later to see how this helps.

Skyway.... I'm not holding the throttle too tightly. Been riding for over 30 years. It's the way the bike's position is.... leaning forward puts weight on your hands. And with the throttle being tight, I think these tend to do this. Of course, different body types and sizes effect comfort as well.

BAGGER

 
Bagger,

congrats on the new bike! as far as ergos, your body will adjust after some time,

I too had some shoulder and back discomfort, added risers , A throttle lock and

after my body adjusted to the position all was good. For longer rides Did end up with a Russel day long saddle, seat was never an issue again.......Enjoy !!!

Ray

 
Break it in and change to synthetic. Don't wait til 5k. No need to. Once its broke in its broke in. Heat cycles no extended redline and vary rpm's. Cars and motorcylcles are now coming with synthetic in the crankcase. Do not be afraid, move into the new millenium.

 
Literally met a fellow, Saturday morning, who flew in from Colorado on Friday to take delivery of NEC's (now) unclaimed #2 '06 FJR. We had breakfast and then I took him to NEC to get THE bike. I went home and got my FJR and then he followed me thru some southern Michigan countryside to put some miles on her b4 changing his oil to take off on the new bike for Texas and other parts.

He was grinning so wide thought his face might split...guess "Colorado Ken " kinda liked his new FJR!!!! We had a fun,uh...rapid ride on some curvy backroads that are getting pretty again as Spring starts poppinn in northern IN/southern MI. Hope Ken has a safe and enjoyable meandering trip on his new FJR all the way back home to Colorado. It was fun meeting someone who was really looking forward to getting his bike. Unlike me he didn't have or ride an FJR prior to yesterday morning. Quite a difference from his Triumph Tiger...ride safe, Ken. DFO :D

 
Did around 125 miles on the Feejer this afternoon. All back roads. Was very windy... 25-35 mph gusts. Sorta tosses the bike around, but I've ridden many times with winds nearly twice this high, so I'm not all that concerned. But, the bike does move around a bit. Could be upsetting for noobs.

Tried to stay pretty close to the 'posted limit', but soon found that I was running 20 over (again!). Crap! :dribble: This bike is just not made to pedal around. Even in the wind and with all the helmet noise. Gonna have to add a radar detector to the machine I feel sure.

So, I set the bars to the back position (what a joke "adjustable bars"..Hah!), and the saddle to the 'high' position. I tried to scoot forward a bit to take the pressure off my hands. It did help a bit, but man.... I gotta tell ya, between my back and my hands, I'm dunn. Stick a fork in me. I can't believe that you folks find this bike 'comfy'. :(

A backrest will keep me from hunching over and some risers would straighten me up some.... think the risers should be an INCH taller. I need to contact a saddle maker... and wait for someone to make risers.

I gotta tell ya, I love the power and the handling of this bike. It's simply wonderful. If we can get the ergos correct for me, I'm gonna really love this bike. But, for now.... 125 miles on back roads is 'bout all I can do.

Thanx GunMD.... those look like something I'll look into for the pipes. Look same/same, but I'll wait to see if they are.

fjrvtx1300 (I got one of those, too, bro...! :clap: ) I agree with you. I have had Vettes, and 2 BMWs that were delivered with Mobil 1. I've switched to synthetic in all my bikes pretty early.... Harleys, Valk, Wing, VTX13, lawn mowa, yada, yada. I like it. Thanx.

BAGGER .... sore in CT-land

 
Literally met a fellow, Saturday morning, who flew in from Colorado on Friday to take delivery of NEC's (now) unclaimed #2 '06 FJR. We had breakfast and then I took him to NEC to get THE bike. I went home and got my FJR and then he followed me thru some southern Michigan countryside to put some miles on her b4 changing his oil to take off on the new bike for Texas and other parts.
He was grinning so wide thought his face might split...guess "Colorado Ken " kinda liked his new FJR!!!! We had a fun,uh...rapid ride on some curvy backroads that are getting pretty again as Spring starts poppinn in northern IN/southern MI. Hope Ken has a safe and enjoyable meandering trip on his new FJR all the way back home to Colorado. It was fun meeting someone who was really looking forward to getting his bike. Unlike me he didn't have or ride an FJR prior to yesterday morning. Quite a difference from his Triumph Tiger...ride safe, Ken. DFO :D
That's a great story. It sounds like you got to share in some of the excitement. That was nice of you, by the way, to take him out for a quick break-in ride. Good job!

 
Don B:

What is your reason for waiting until 5 K to change over to synthetic oil?

 
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murf.... don't ask. Been there several boards ago. Valks, Wings, VTXs, yada, yada. Just don't ask. :assasin:

Change it when you wanna change it.

BAGGER

 
Do not change to synthetic after only 600 miles.  Wait at least 5k.
Please, for the love of....Do not start that crap on this thread :p

Break it in and change to synthetic. Don't wait til 5k. No need to. Once its broke in its broke in. Heat cycles no extended redline and vary rpm's. Cars and motorcylcles are now coming with synthetic in the crankcase. Do not be afraid, move into the new millenium.
I have had Vettes, and 2 BMWs that were delivered with Mobil 1. I've switched to synthetic in all my bikes pretty early.... Harleys, Valk, Wing, VTX13, lawn mowa, yada, yada. I like it.
Or the grand illusion of the new millenium. Do Syn if you want, but not for extended change intervals. Details, arguments, evidence

Hey, you started it. Finish it here if you must.

 
Do not change to synthetic after only 600 miles.  Wait at least 5k.
Why should you wait till 5K to change to synthetic? I generally change after first 1000 miles? Just wondering what your reasoning was.. :unsure:

 
Do not change to synthetic after only 600 miles.  Wait at least 5k.
Please, for the love of....Do not start that crap on this thread :p

Break it in and change to synthetic. Don't wait til 5k. No need to. Once its broke in its broke in. Heat cycles no extended redline and vary rpm's. Cars and motorcylcles are now coming with synthetic in the crankcase. Do not be afraid, move into the new millenium.
I have had Vettes, and 2 BMWs that were delivered with Mobil 1. I've switched to synthetic in all my bikes pretty early.... Harleys, Valk, Wing, VTX13, lawn mowa, yada, yada. I like it.
Or the grand illusion of the new millenium. Do Syn if you want, but not for extended change intervals. Details, arguments, evidence

Hey, you started it. Finish it here if you must.
Or the grand illusion of the new millenium. Do Syn if you want, but not for extended change intervals. Details, arguments, evidenceHey, you started it. Finish it here if you must.
I run my Wing at 8000 miles before changing. Been doing this since the first oil change..... 'round 1000 miles.

I don't have any problems with the clutch, the motor, the tranny..... nadda. Mobile 1 15/50 red/gold cap works for me, bro.

Everyone can use which ever oil, synthetic, hybrid, yada, yada that they want. Change it whenever you want..... or NEVER! I don't care. :)

It's up to the individual. Let's not start a thread regarding oil and it's merits or what ever. Use 20/40 and change it every time you ride. Don't matter to me. Won't change the way the bike rides either.

I'm dunn...... (sigh)

BAGGER

 
I am pretty much happy with the stock ergos on the bike. The seat I found real hard, but after I put my seat beads on it, it felt much better. My only real complaint is the front end dive on braking. I will increase the pre-load on the front springs and increase the compression dampening and see if that helps. As problematic as the anti-dive valves are on the GL1800, I still miss not having one on this bike.

I couldn't find the Magnum Blaster horns so I added FIAMM Freeway blasters instead. They are plenty loud. I might go look to see what a set of GL1800 horns cost just for grins. I have never heard any horn as loud as the ones on the Wing, on bike or car.

Going to also have to figure out a way I can move the Valentine One from bike to bike so I can use it on the FJR. Something tells me I am going to need it.

I won't be able to ride the bike all week due to work, so I am pretty bummed. Did manage to get 500 miles on it, so I went ahead and did the oil and rear drive fluid change 100 miles early.

I need a throttle lock right away, or a cruise control. I also need a ram mount for my 376C GPS and a RKA tank bag. I think I see where I will mount the Autocom under the seat and I will probably put the Ipod in the fairing pocket and use the Ijet remote for it. So much to do, so little time. I would have liked to had it road ready for Arkansas to go meet the COG guys next weekend, but it doesn't look like that will happen. Maybe that is a good thing, I was at the COG event in 2003 when four (or was it five?) FJR's crashed. Maybe I should stay away from Arkansas for a while. My suspicion is that due to the rapid acceleration of this engine, that it would be real easy to blow your entrance speed on successive corners if you aren't real careful how you accelerate on corner exits. I had similar problems on the Wing (though not as bad) when I first got it, as I was not expecting the acceleration and torque it has.

I get a bit of the Herky Jerky shifting Bagger mentioned too. It probably is a GoldWing thing, and is not something wrong with the bike, but due to the shifting habits you develop on the Wing. I suspect it will just take time for me to make the adjustment.

I would like another inch on the windshield in both width and height. I also will be disabling the auto-retract feature as soon as I have time to.

As I mentioned in another thread, the ABS saved me from an accident already when a car came to a sudden stop in front of me on the interstate. I grabbed too much front brake, and the ABS kept the front wheel from locking. I was not ready for the amount of stopping power the 4 pot brakes have on this bike.

 
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