FJR has one or two keys?

[fjrbird]

I recently obtained a pre-owned 2006 FJR and don't actually know the history of the bike. The private party that sold to me has barely ridden it for around 400 miles on top of 20k that the previous owner puts on. The bike has two keys. One for ignition and the other side bags. Both are different. Is it the way the new bike equipped with? Secondly, how do I know the recall records the bike has gone thru service? Is there a web site from yamaha that we can punch in the VIN and get the history? Thanks for your input.

 

[Ignacio]

The FJR is supposed to have one key.

Probably had the ignition done, but the dealer slacked off and didn't rekey it. Only way to know for sure is contact a dealer and have them look it up....althought they were also supposed to stamp something on the bike...but probably slacked that one too.

 

[fjrbird]

"stamp something on the bike"? Where exactly is the stamp? I think I have few sheet of paperworks from the original owner tuck in the saddlebag with the selling dealer name on it. I can call them if they have some records of it.

Thanks Ignacio.

 

[Ignacio]

"stamp something on the bike"? Where exactly is the stamp? I

See FJRF003 in this area. That thread has information including a copy of the actual technical bulletin including stamping details and direction that dealers should rekey bikes to match.

 

[SkooterG]

When the ignition recall is completed they are supposed to stamp, or punch a 'dot' next to the VIN on the frame. You can call Yamaha's corporate customer service phone number and give them your VIN and they will tell you if recalls have been done or their is anything outstanding.

 

[kamal]

The FJR is supposed to have one key.

Probably had the ignition done, but the dealer slacked off and didn't rekey it. Only way to know for sure is contact a dealer and have them look it up....althought they were also supposed to stamp something on the bike...but probably slacked that one too.

+1.

If so, the key that fits the bags should also unlock the seat - right?

Al.

 

[TouringRider]

The FJR is supposed to have one key.

Probably had the ignition done, but the dealer slacked off and didn't rekey it. Only way to know for sure is contact a dealer and have them look it up....althought they were also supposed to stamp something on the bike...but probably slacked that one too.

+1.

If so, the key that fits the bags should also unlock the seat - right?

Al.

Yes.

 

[Fred W]

While some folks may be miffed at the inconvenience of having to carry two keys, that may actually be a "preferred" configuration.

You could put the two keys on one of those quick detachable key chains so you could quickly open one of the bags or the seat while the bike is still running!

Just sayin'... sometimes you've gotta look for the silver lining.

 

[Eric L]

While some folks may be miffed at the inconvenience of having to carry two keys, that may actually be a "preferred" configuration.

You could put the two keys on one of those quick detachable key chains so you could quickly open one of the bags or the seat while the bike is still running!

Just sayin'... sometimes you've gotta look for the silver lining.

or you could just carry a spare of the same key

 

[FredandJeannesRacer]

Maybe the first owner kept the side cases,

And the second owner replaced them.

 

[Fred W]

While some folks may be miffed at the inconvenience of having to carry two keys, that may actually be a "preferred" configuration.

You could put the two keys on one of those quick detachable key chains so you could quickly open one of the bags or the seat while the bike is still running!

Just sayin'... sometimes you've gotta look for the silver lining.

or you could just carry a spare of the same key

And when you lose the keychain with the only two keys on it....

Yeah I know. Make more copies.

Either way, doesn't seem like such a huge deal to me to have two keys to the bike.

 

[TomInPA]

Maybe the first owner kept the side cases,

And the second owner replaced them.

I'm guessing the ignition key is different from the bags, seat and fuel locks. The ignition recall is the most plausible explanation.

 

[fjrbird]

Thanks all for you chime in. I just called the Yamaha Customer Service and was told there is no record of recall on this vehicle regarding the main switch. She runs it by VIN. She said the vehicle should have the following recall service:

1. Wire sublease 990061

2. Main switch 990051

3. Wire harness 990062

Only the hand shifter and trunk base recalls were done and shown on Yamaha record. I told her if it is possible the dealer does the work but does not file it with Yamaha record, she said yes, it happens. LOL. So potentially a recall vehicle can be serviced twice or more if each of the dealer never bother to file with Yamaha. But what about the part order or service charge refund that the dealer receives from the Yamaha for servicing the recall. That should in the book keeping somwhere. Anyway, I'll have the original dealer name that the first owner bought and will make some phone calls.

 

[ionbeam]

...So potentially a recall vehicle can be serviced twice or more...

So recall items like the ignition switch can be identified as a replacement switch by having a yellow band around the end of one of the wire bundles coming off the ignition switch. No band = no recall; yellow band = recall part installed.

And the CCT by a colored dot...

 

[bramfrank]

One solution is to take a fresh key and have one side cut to match the ignition and the other cut to match the rest of the bike. You simply need to insert the key in the appropriate orientation for it to work in one lock or the others. Being a US bike at least the keys are priced reasonably - lots cheaper than the rest of the world's transponder keys.

 

[Top_Speed1]

One solution is to take a fresh key and have one side cut to match the ignition and the other cut to match the rest of the bike. You simply need to insert the key in the appropriate orientation for it to work in one lock or the others. Being a US bike at least the keys are priced reasonably - lots cheaper than the rest of the world's transponder keys.

Yep $2.77 here: eBay FJR Key Blanks

Any good Hardware store can cut one side to your ignition config, and the other side for your bags. As mentioned you would just turn the key 180 degrees if it didn't work when inserted. If it were me and I had this situation I would probably mark with a paint dot maybe the ignition up (or down as you prefer).

 

[NMRoadRunner]

The same key lock was used for the ignition recall, at least mine was. The key should be the same for both. The key code in your owner manual will tell you which is the correct key supplied for the bike, won't it?

 

[Fred W]

The same key lock was used for the ignition recall, at least mine was. The key should be the same for both. The key code in your owner manual will tell you which is the correct key supplied for the bike, won't it?

Yes. If the dealership bothered to actually read the recall instructions they would have swapped the lock cylinders between the new, electrically updated ignition switch assembly and the old, potentially bad, recalled ignition switch assemebly so that the owner retained the same key for ignition, side bags and (potentially) trunk lock. It is right there n the instructions that Ignacio linked to. But apparently many shops do not read well.

Also, when an owner has a failure of the ignition switch (outside of the recall), many dealers, who don't know diddly-doo about locks and such, would just swap out the entire ignition and hand the owner two new keys to carry with their old two.

 

[Bounce]

my gen 1 has 5 keys. all cut the same. 2 with the Yamaha plastic logo head on them. 3 plain metal.