FJR Tech Day III Pictures

[PhilJet09]

Geez Andy, I was already feeling bad about not making it to this...then you had to post a picture of a bottle of Woodford Reserve. :dribble: Dammit!

 

[yamafitter]

While you guys were playing around with fork maintenance, did you notice if the bushings on the Gen 1 wear like the ones on the Gen 2? I have changed my fork oil and springs, but never looked at the bushings.

According to the boys at GP Suspensions, the Gen II will wear the bushings out more quickly than a Gen I. Even though the Gen II forks have a middle bushing there is something in the design of the forks that causes more wear. The fork bushings on my 06AE needed replacement when I had my forks rebuilt last year at GP Suspensions after roughly 40,000 km (24,000 miles).

If any of the Teflon coating is missing from the bushing upon inspection I would consider replacement. The fork relies on the Teflon coating on the bushing to reduce friction and allow the fork to move freely.

 

[RaYzerman19]

It looked to me like the Gen 1 bushings all had teflon on the outer diameter, but was worn off on the inside diameter... copper showing fairly uniformly all around it (as if they are turning during use), and rather ideal IMHO. None were terrible that I could see (no total lack of teflon). BlindSquirrel's were worn but could have gone further, can't remember what he had for mileage.... I'll be pulling my Gen2 bushings this winter (40k miles) and we'll see what they look like.

Thanks Ray. I think I'm going to just flush and refill the fork oil again this winter. If there I am ever able to attend one of the tech days then I may try replacing the bushings and seals, but I don't have the tools or experience to try it myself unless it is absolutely necessary.

Greg, if you'd simply HOST a tech day........ well, never mind, all kinds of sheep-lovin' weirdos might show up..... it ain't a hard job though.

 

[not2shabby]

Hey Geek, I dunno if Gen 2 valves will work in a Gen 1, but I've got compression and rebound valves from mine out in the garage leftover from my Gold valve swap. You'll welcome to them.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Thanks for my new screensaver Andy, nothing makes me happier than seeing pics of my FJR Forum Friends riding, wrenching and laughing along with our favorite bikes!

This ain't what it seems.. I was simply demonstrating a new dance move when Ray backed into me

Nice pictures dorkboi. I think shabby has some valves btw

 

[RaYzerman19]

Just to clarify, Andy needs the aluminum fitting that is on the bottom of the cartridge, it has a hole we'll call a valve, and the bolt (with copper washer) that goes in the bottom of the lower fork, threads into it to hold the cartridge inside the fork. I don't think you replace this for a gold valve installation, but re-use it. The only way to buy this new is to buy a cartridge assembly, I'm thinking.

 

[RaYzerman19]

Thanks for my new screensaver Andy, nothing makes me happier than seeing pics of my FJR Forum Friends riding, wrenching and laughing along with our favorite bikes!

This ain't what it seems.. I was simply demonstrating a new dance move when Ray backed into me

Nice pictures dorkboi. I think shabby has some valves btw

Don't think so, Big Boy... the picture clearly shows I lost my grip with the wrench as I was rammed from the rear. And that old fork oil sure don't make very good lube.

 

[not2shabby]

Just to clarify, Andy needs the aluminum fitting that is on the bottom of the cartridge, it has a hole we'll call a valve, and the bolt (with copper washer) that goes in the bottom of the lower fork, threads into it to hold the cartridge inside the fork. I don't think you replace this for a gold valve installation, but re-use it. The only way to buy this new is to buy a cartridge assembly, I'm thinking.

Ah, if that's the case, then you're right, I had to to use those. Time to start checking Ebay! Good luck.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

It looked to me like the Gen 1 bushings all had teflon on the outer diameter, but was worn off on the inside diameter... copper showing fairly uniformly all around it (as if they are turning during use), and rather ideal IMHO. None were terrible that I could see (no total lack of teflon). BlindSquirrel's were worn but could have gone further, can't remember what he had for mileage.... I'll be pulling my Gen2 bushings this winter (40k miles) and we'll see what they look like.

I was just under 50K miles. Since I am the third owner of the bike I don't know what has or has not been done to it before I got it. I must say things seemed smoother on the ride home.

Thanks Ray and Bust!! :clapping:

 

[Blind Squirrel]

Andy,

Have you checked the fiche on yamahasports.com? https://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/pages/oemparts?aribrand=YAM#/Yamaha/FJR1300ABS_-_FJR1300AS_-_2004/FRONT_FORK/FJR1300AS_(2004_MOTORCYCLE)/FRONT_FORK_(FJR1300AS_-_2004)

Looks like your part may be # 11,34. You can also get new dust covers #23.

Ray,

Take a look at the fiche. It shows the washer going in between the seal and the bushing. I wonder if Yamaha did it that way to protect the seal from the bushing and also to keep the bushing from coming past the seal, like happened when you took my fork back apart?

 

[Bustanut joker]

So, this past weekend was FJR Tech Day III at Casa de Bustanut joker.

We got to Bust's place around 10:30 that night. Bust was in ... uh ... rare form.

I'll leave it at that.

Some work was underway, but it was getting late and didn't last long, so eventually we just sat around shooting the ****.

Bust disappeared (AKA went to bed and passed out) and a few of us stayed up and this guy - TripperMike, all the way from Minnesota! - rolled in at 3:30 Saturday morning.

Yeah... But I was up @ 5:30 A.M. and chatted with Mike and the Battle Axe before they called it a night. Seem's like yer bike was disassembled and being reworked before yer silly arse was outa bed Saturday momrnin'

So put that in yer pipe an smoke it thimbledik

 

[beemerdons]

"...and chatted with Mike and the Battle Axe before they called it a night."

The Battle Axe! Dude, you've got a fecking death wish! Sleep light, Bust!

 

[madmike2]

Thanks for my new screensaver Andy, nothing makes me happier than seeing pics of my FJR Forum Friends riding, wrenching and laughing along with our favorite bikes!

So THAT'S how Andy's FJR front got "forked"...it was a double-team effort.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

So THAT'S how Andy's FJR front got "forked"...it was a double-team effort.

What are you taliking about? These guys are PROS!

I think it had something to do will Dolly hanging out on Andy's bike:

 

[beemerdons]

I may have to switch to this as my new screensaver: WAY UGLY AND UGLIER!!!

 

[madmike2]

I may have to switch to this as my new screensaver: WAY UGLY AND UGLIER!!!

It takes two to Tango.... :dribble:

Er....uhm....Don, my friend, remember the old "Pot-Kettle-Black" dilemma! :bleh:

Hugs and kisses.

 

[beemerdons]

Andy,

Have you checked the fiche on yamahasports.com? https://www.yamahasportsplaza.com/pages/oemparts?aribrand=YAM#/Yamaha/FJR1300ABS_-_FJR1300AS_-_2004/FRONT_FORK/FJR1300AS_(2004_MOTORCYCLE)/FRONT_FORK_(FJR1300AS_-_2004)

Looks like your part may be # 11,34. You can also get new dust covers #23.

Ray,

Take a look at the fiche. It shows the washer going in between the seal and the bushing. I wonder if Yamaha did it that way to protect the seal from the bushing and also to keep the bushing from coming past the seal, like happened when you took my fork back apart?

Blind Squirrel, RaYzerman19 and Yamafitter, Last night at Midnight Arizona Time I received a phone call from Sooze, Sheila, Andy and Bust. It was a real pleasure talking to Sooze and Sheila of course, like it always is; talking to those other two obnoxious fuckers, well really not so much ese!!!

However, BikerGeek99 related that his FJR is now fixed and that he was riding it back to Ohio. I know the culprit was the "valve" and after those two jerkoffs got off of the phone it kept bugging me what kind of valve would be in a motorcycle front fork. I have Blind Squirrel's link open and my 2003 FJR Shop Manual open to Chapter 4 and to pages 60-69. The microfiche shows part #11,34 and my hard copies show part #18 "Oil Flow Stopper"!

So here's my question: Did BG99's valve (spindle, taper) or "oil flow stopper" fail due to in service use or did it get damaged in the FJR Tech Day III disassembly??

Reason for my question is because Miss Lucy Liu has never had her front or rear suspension touched; and I do mean never, I have to start this project muy pronto!

 

[Bustanut joker]

I suspect it was damaged the last time they were worked on.

The Cap screw on the bottom was tightened by either the incerdible Hulk or Superman. I had three foot of pipe on both of them and had to really lean into it to brake them loose. The broken side cut loose with a loud snap.

All the bolts/ Screws were tightened to excess. I have several allen wrenches that resemble pretzels now.

Did ya happen to notice who's phone that came from? he's outa control.

 

[beemerdons]

I suspect it was damaged the last time they were worked on.

The Cap screw on the bottom was tightened by either the incerdible Hulk or Superman. I had three foot of pipe on both of them and had to really lean into it to brake them loose. The broken side cut loose with a loud snap.

All the bolts/ Screws were tightened to excess. I have several allen wrenches that resemble pretzels now.

Did ya happen to notice who's phone that came from? he's outa control.

Just got off the phone with SkooterG a few minutes ago, he was heading out to his "date" with WheatonFJR, TriggerT, griff and the rest of those Chicagoland whack jobs.

SkootyG said the same exact thing you just related, part wouldn't be damaged during normal usage, it may be worn but certainly not damaged through normal operation.

 

[beemerdons]

My Fine Fellow FJR Forum Friends: I thought you might like to see the unedited, true and non altered version of this infamous FJR Tech Day III photograph!