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Looks like an awesome ride. My wife and I are hoping to do the alps next year if all goes according to plan. Thanks for posting the video.

 
Yep, I'm going to Zurich in 2 weeks for work, have been looking around at possible rides as I only have to work one day! Very confusing to say the least.

Hopefully can get down to Italy. Definitely will check out what Switerland has to offer.

A friend was there last year and did an Edeilweiss tour. He couldn't speak more highly of the area.

 
Yep, I'm going to Zurich in 2 weeks for work, have been looking around at possible rides as I only have to work one day! Very confusing to say the least. Hopefully can get down to Italy. Definitely will check out what Switerland has to offer.

A friend was there last year and did an Edeilweiss tour. He couldn't speak more highly of the area.
Hey Mike,

You might want to PM afterburn from the board. I think he's based in europe ...or goes there alot. He might have some ideas/suggestions for you.

Cool video BTW!. You also might check with Stef.

 
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Am I the only one who noticed the FJR rider is leaning the wrong way in every single corner? It looks funny to see the guy lean to the outside of every corner.....

 
The great part is that a lot of dealers in Europe will rent motorcycles and most of those can be talked into finding a loaner helmet, too. I rode the big VStrom there before it came to the US and had a blast.

Wash the helmet before use as you have no idea who had it on their head before you, though. (eeewwww)

Bob

 
Am I the only one who noticed the FJR rider is leaning the wrong way in every single corner? It looks funny to see the guy lean to the outside of every corner.....

You're right ... it's really obvious ... I kept trying to correct it while I was watching. :unsure:

JW

 
Am I the only one who noticed the FJR rider is leaning the wrong way in every single corner? It looks funny to see the guy lean to the outside of every corner.....
This is quite good driving technic for this twisties.

It's actualy very good for low speed obstacle bypass in city ride too.

So I recomend You learn it, it may save You some day.

Looking at the video I'm more concerned on left corner cutting. It is common in Alps but it is also common that a car comes towards You and You find Yourself on his side of the road.

 
Hey Mike,You might want to PM afterburn from the board. I think he's based in europe ...or goes there alot. He might have some ideas/suggestions for you.

Cool video BTW!. You also might check with Stef.
Is Stef still about, or is that a different Stef?

 
Hey Mike,You might want to PM afterburn from the board. I think he's based in europe ...or goes there alot. He might have some ideas/suggestions for you.

Cool video BTW!. You also might check with Stef.
Is Stef still about, or is that a different Stef?
There's only ONE Stef. You know...teerex...Italian FJR Forum...

 
Well then according to that link Stef is no longer with is, he moved to England and traded the Feejer for a FZ1!

 
Am I the only one who noticed the FJR rider is leaning the wrong way in every single corner? It looks funny to see the guy lean to the outside of every corner.....

This is quite good driving technic for this twisties. It's actualy very good for low speed obstacle bypass in city ride too. So I recomend You learn it, it may save You some day.

********. The rider is sloppy, according to every track and class I've ever been to, as well as by common sense. Leaning against the turn may work as a fast reaction to get the tires around a small pothole or similar obstacle in your lane and you can ride this way if you want. You see it a lot in city riding. However, this maneuver uses up the cornering capability to the low side of the bike. Go into a sweeper a bit too quick, leaned properly toward the inside, and you can bring the bike down lower. Go into the same sweeper leaning away from the corner, sitting on the high side of the bike, and you'll either ground out or go wide.

Bob

 
There's only ONE Stef. You know...teerex...Italian FJR Forum...
Well, thank you sir :D

he moved to England ...
Unh-uh. Not this guy. BTDT going on 20 years back and I served my time.... :blink:

I guess I'm responsible for this bit of confusion. My Forum handle's Teerex51 but my name's Stefano (hence Stef).

I was on the other board too (FJROwners) as Teerex but I kinda fell asleep.... ;) ...and I recall there was a Stef there.

This video is old stuff (goes back to our former sleazy-Board days) and the Dutch-plates FJR rider is indeed leaning the wrong way, while pushing the bike into the bends.

While this may be good when you're dodging traffic cones at slow speed :D , IMHO you really should not ride like this for the good reasons Bob mentioned above...

Stef aka Teerex

 
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********. The rider is sloppy, according to every track and class I've ever been to, as well as by common sense. Leaning against the turn may work as a fast reaction to get the tires around a small pothole or similar obstacle in your lane and you can ride this way if you want. You see it a lot in city riding. However, this maneuver uses up the cornering capability to the low side of the bike. Go into a sweeper a bit too quick, leaned properly toward the inside, and you can bring the bike down lower. Go into the same sweeper leaning away from the corner, sitting on the high side of the bike, and you'll either ground out or go wide.Bob
Well on the training courses I'm going to mostly there are instructors for every day riding, not track days. I know You wouldn't ride bike with this stile on race track.

What our instructors explain is (all for normal city/road riding not racing):

1. riding technic leaning with the bike (correct by Your opinion) is good for the resons You already mentioned, but has bad side, that Your silhuete is wider. And in left corners (in Europe moslty) Your head is the target for upcoming trafic. So in narrow road this may not workout. And it's true You can go thru the corner with greater speed and have more lean space if needed.

2. riding techinc is bad for the reasons You mentioned, but it gives You narrower silhuete. But You can reach bike limits faster.

3. riding technic the don't aprove for road driving is leaning off the bike. They allow for max. speed thru the cornering, but limit You maneuver ability.

It is up to each to decide and take responsibility how it would ride in ceartain condition. But I think each should be aware of all techincs and possibly trained all of them.

 
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