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Looking for a 2nd bike, anyone have experience with the Ducati ST series bikes? I found a couple online but I'm hesitant to buy one without some feedback. Curious about the seating position and the wind protection.

Thanks!

 
I had an ST2 for a year and put about 15K on while I had it. It was a nice bike but wasn't as nice as I had hoped. The FJR has way more power and a lot better brakes. The ST2 doesn't have much windshield and you're really out in the weather, more like the exposure you would have on a sport bike. The seat was bad, a lot of people go with a Corbin. The headlight was really bad and the electrical system was weak. Lots of wiring that should have been heavier. It was expensive to operate with the frequent valve checks and parts were pretty bad too.

It was a lot lighter than the FJR and sounded nice. The saddle bags were good too, although not as nice as the FJR.

One of the main reasons I bought it was that it was really cheap compared to bikes like the FJR. I got crashed on it one day and bought my first FJR with the insurance money that was more than twice what I paid for it.

They do get a lot more attention than the FJR since its a Duc. Kind of funny since the FJR is a better bike in every way.

I don't think the ST2 makes a better sport bike than the FJR and its definitely not a better tourer. The ST3 and ST4 may have more power and better suspensions than the ST2 that might make them better sport bikes, but I never rode any of them.

I hate to leave it that negative, because I wasn't that disappointed with the bike when I was riding it for two summers. But after moving onto the FJR it just paled by comparison.

 
Not at all, awesome report. That's exactly what I am looking for is honest feedback...living in the midwest I end up flying and driving home the bikes I buy more often than not. It's a big commitment to make without experienced feedback.

 
I came to my first FJR about 4-5 years ago from a ST2 that I rode every day. It's a bike that you have to set up for your tastes and I really liked mine. The seat and I got a along great, the DucatiDesigns (https://www.ducatidesigns.com/) headlights with some PIAAs totally blew away the stock light, I had bar risers with a tall windshield. Riding through winters in DC, the Ducati was as reliable as anything I've owned and once the PITA fairings were off (an hour off and another hour on) the engine was very easy to work on. This is after I killed a deer with it:

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The -2 was far better in tight sections than the FJR and I'd say that each has a set of things that they are better at. The ST is far lighter and more on the sport end, while the FJR is a heavier brother more on the touring end of the spectrum. Once you get used to the rattle of the Duck's dry clutch and the thumpiness of the twin, it's pretty addictive and you miss it on other bikes.

 
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From reading in magazines I've been given the impression that the ST3 is the one to have, but you'd still be better off with a Sprint ST or a VFR. If you're keeping the FJR I'd go for an even more sporty bike and soft bags if you still want luggage.

 
I used to ride a lot with a guy in England that had both an ST-2 and later an ST-4. He was a true Ducati-nista so it was tough for him to criticize the bikes. However, he did say the ST-4 was a dramatic improvement over the -2 in terms of comfort and reliability. You're still short on the wind protection, the bags are smaller, I could keep up with him on my K-75S :lol: , and the Duc has a .............chain :angry2: Also the maintenance is pretty spendy. And tough to find a really good mechanic.

But it did have that Duc magical exhaust note. If you do get one, I'd lean pretty strongly for the -4 as it seemed like they got most of the complaints sorted out with that.

But I'll bet you end up on the Feej most of the time.

 
Get an SV650 or 1000 for short rides. They're a hoot
I like what my buddy, who rides a first gen multistrada, had to say when I finally showed him that I just added a 2006 FJR to my garage. This was

in response to my comment that I'd been looking at maybe an ST3 but that the high frequency and cost of maintenance would no doubt p*** me off.

He said: "No doubt. You really gotta want to own a ducati to put up with that kind of stuff, kind of like a mistress. . ."

 
I had an ST4 for 2 years/20k miles, first gen 916 motor. It's more like the FJR than it is different.... except more leaned forward, more wind with fewer options for aftermarket windscreens. Power and performance is similar in that they both have more power and torque than most people need or use. You might say what the FJR is to the ST1300, the ST4 is to the FJR, another step toward the sport end of the spectrum. With the sargent seat I could do a 300 mile day comfortably, but the wind noise bothered me. It's a bit lighter and thinner. If you rack up the miles than the 6k valve adj interval is expensive unless you have the skills to do it yourself. The original owner of my bike had some problems and spent some serious money fixing them, I had almost none in 20k miles. The guy I sold it to rode it a bit, then had some engine trouble and ended up parting it out at about 45k miles. Bummer for them.

the only other thing I'll add is that it is a Ducati, and there are few other bikes - imho, shared by others of course - that have the soul of a Duc. There's just something about the sound, and the feeling you get from that torquey vtwin that sets them apart.

 
Another update in my quest for a second ride for all who've posted... I'm leaning toward the original suggestion from someone - buy a VStrom dual sport for something travel worthy and different. Rather than go even "sportier" than the FJR.

The more I think about it the more I think I might be screwing myself if I bought a really sport oriented bike, because I will end up riding it on all our long trips and I'll be missing the FJR protection and all my farkles the whole time... At least with the Strom she can ride both and have some windshield protection.

 
have owned two stroms, a 650 and a 1000.... excellent all-around machines.... 650 has a very smooth motor and like the fjr they are bulletproof... they are especially well-suited to bumpy backroads, and you can load them up and tour if you want... never really went off-road with mine, and can't see doing it on such big bikes, but some do.... you might look at the versys as well.... said to be sportier than the strom and a lot of fun to throw around

 
Another update in my quest for a second ride for all who've posted... I'm leaning toward the original suggestion from someone - buy a VStrom dual sport for something travel worthy and different. Rather than go even "sportier" than the FJR.
I plan to take my V-Strom 1000 on a shake down cruise this coming weekend. Going to see how it fares as a Touring bike. Have it set up with soft luggage for the camp out right now and I think it feels fine. I've been using it for commuting and exploring local dirt roads to get some experience, as I am fairly new to dirt riding. It is a bike for a tall person. Love the popping exhaust note of the :clapping: cylinders.

 
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