FJRF008: Cam Chain Tensioner Survey

[RadioHowie]

That is a defective part. Plain and simple. Yamaha should cover it.

Whether they do or not is another story, but they should take care of it.

 

[gapiob]

A – the model year of your FJR

-->FJR 2007 ABS

B – the number of miles on your FJR when the cam chain noise became apparent

-->43500 miles

C – what action did you take, i.e., replace the CCT yourself, have the dealer do the work, ignore the noise, etc., and at what mileage

-->I have replace the CCT with a friend

D – did replacing the CCT eliminate the problem, i.e., the chain noise

-->Yes, after replace the CCT, no more noise

E – was the problem diagnosed by a dealer and if so, dealer name and specifics

--> it's strongly advise by YAMAHA MOTOR FRANCE (YMF) to change it on FJR without the CCT reference 1MC-12210-00 (with a green dot) before 45000 miles for a normal utilisation, and for cops, it's every 25000 miles. THe two first generation of CCT ,5JW-12210-10 with the blue dot, and 5JW-12210-00 without painting dot are more delicate.
In europe the new CCT appear in 2009

F – were there any problems related to the CCT failure, i.e., cylinder head damage/engine replacement

--> N / A, changement before all problems

G – if the repair/replacement was performed by a dealer, how many days

--> Repair by myself, and a friend in 2 hours

H – paid for by Yamaha or not/under conventional warranty or Y.E.S

--> for YMF, it's a wearing part

I – have you replaced your CCT more than once, including how many times, mileage at replacements

--> Just once

J – did the chain noise begin randomly, or did it begin following valve adjustment, where the CCT needed to be de-tensioned to facilitate cam removal

--> It start randomly.

K - if you are needing to change your CCT are you confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient or are you considering replacement with a manual aftermarket design

--> Yes, the new spring of the new CCT is realy stronger. with a more turn, and a range shorter.

Gatien

 

[lobstr]

A- 2003

B- started 32k miles

C- fixed myself at 33k

D- new cct fixed the problem

E- thanks to this forum, had a good idea what it was

F- no problems

G- did it myself

H- paid for myself

I- 1 time

J- started randomly

K- went with manual aftermarket

 

[harper]

A – 2006

B – No noise apparent, 27000 miles, preventative maintenance

C – replaced the CCT myself directed by audiowize, 27000 miles

D – there was no chain noise

E – no problem, preventative maintenance

F – no failure

G – N/A

H – paid for by me

I – replaced CCT only once at 27000 miles

J – no chain noise, preventative maintenance

K - confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient

 

[Biquer]

A – 2008

B – 68,000

C – dealer changed

D – It was not very noisy so no real change

E – yes, FJ Centre, Bristol England. Ticking at cold start up

F – no

G – none, it was during a routine service

H – paid by me

I – no

J – dealer pointed it out to me

K - blue dot

 

[BkerChuck]

A - 2007 ABS

B - 53,000 miles, noticed noise mostly when engine was cold on start up

C - Changed myself with help of a friend/forum member at a valve check

D - Yes, all noise gone

E - No

F - No

G - Self and friend combined with valve check, took several hours but with breaks taken

H - No

I - Only once

J - Random noise, from having read about it here I knew what it was

K - Yes I believe the new updated part will be fine.

 

[want2ride]

A- 2005 ABS

B- 54186 at replacement, noise begin around 47K

C- I replaced the CCT myself

D- The noise cleared with replacement

E- Dealer was not involved

F- Noise only

G- Replaced it myself

H- Me!

I- first and hopefully last replacement

J- Random

K- I am confident in the replacement part

 

[FJR-AZbrad]

Being a new guy to the forum and the FJR - I'll jump in.

A – 2007 ABS

B – 80K from the PO. I just got the project bike.

C – PO threw up his hands and sold it to me.

D – N/A - top end grenaded.

E – Nope, Came to a stop, started to back into a parking space, then rattle/rattle crunch/crunch. All over but the cryin'.

F – All valves bent. Haven't torn the head down yet.

G – N/A goin' it alone.

H – No warranty.

I – AFIK it is the original.

J – Random and VERY suddenly.

K - Ordered a green dot replacement. And an ebay motor...

 

[John d]

A – the model year of your FJR - 2008

B – the number of miles on your FJR when the cam chain noise became apparent

Not sure, maybe 5000 miles ago, was never loud.

C – what action did you take, i.e., replace the CCT yourself, have the dealer do the work, ignore the noise, etc., and at what mileage

Replaced myself at 90840 miles

D – did replacing the CCT eliminate the problem, i.e., the chain noise. - Yes

E – was the problem diagnosed by a dealer and if so, dealer name and specifics

F – were there any problems related to the CCT failure, i.e., cylinder head damage/engine replacement - No

G – if the repair/replacement was performed by a dealer, how many days

H – paid for by Yamaha or not/under conventional warranty or Y.E.S

I – have you replaced your CCT more than once, including how many times, mileage at replacements

J – did the chain noise begin randomly, or did it begin following valve adjustment, where the CCT needed to be de-tensioned to facilitate cam removal - Don't know

K - if you are needing to change your CCT are you confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient or are you considering replacement with a manual aftermarket design - reasonably confident

 

[1skier]

A. 2008

B. @31,000 (August, 2017)

C. Replaced with O.E.M..

D. Yes, noise gone.

E. No, I heard the noise at idle when the engine was thoroughly warm. It would cycle louder and quieter with a period of 5-10 seconds.

F. No, there were no related problems.

G. N.A. Did the work myself.

H. No warranty.

I. No, the CCT has only been replaced once.

J. Random.

K. I don't know. I'll keep monitoring the noise level.

 

[donaldb]

A – the model year of your FJR

2004

B – the number of miles on your FJR when the cam chain noise became apparent

60000

C – what action did you take, i.e., replace the CCT yourself, have the dealer do the work, ignore the noise, etc., and at what mileage

replaced myself as soon as I heard the noise

D – did replacing the CCT eliminate the problem, i.e., the chain noise

yes

E – was the problem diagnosed by a dealer and if so, dealer name and specifics

no

F – were there any problems related to the CCT failure, i.e., cylinder head damage/engine replacement

no

G – if the repair/replacement was performed by a dealer, how many days

N/A

H – paid for by Yamaha or not/under conventional warranty or Y.E.S

no

I – have you replaced your CCT more than once, including how many times, mileage at replacements

only once

J – did the chain noise begin randomly, or did it begin following valve adjustment, where the CCT needed to be de-tensioned to facilitate cam removal

randomly

K - if you are needing to change your CCT are you confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient or are you considering replacement with a manual aftermarket design

replaced mine with the new Yamaha OEM CCT (blue dot)

 

[kmanflyer]

A- 2005

B- 35125 at purchase: Sounded noisy; had nothing to compare it to.

C- I replaced the CCT myself at 36275 with green dot OEM

D- The noise cleared with replacement, sounded much quieter.

E- Dealer was not involved; searched this Forum for info.

F- No Damage.

G- Replaced it myself; 3 hours

H- No; out of pocket.

I- First; Looked like original.

J- Random

K- I am confident in the replacement part(OEM green dot; newest version). Much stronger spring action than original.

 

[user 6393]

You may want to add an option for those of us with Gen1's who replaced CCT to avoid problems?

 

[RavFJR]

A – 2009

B – 27,000

C – Replaced with green dot myself/shop replacing with manual CCT 

D – Replacement quieted the marbles in a can noise, but still had chain noise

E – N/A

F – Cam chain needs replacing (stretched - yes really)

G – N/A

H – No, out of pocket

I – No

J –slight noise at first at idle. Grew worse within a hundred miles.

K - Not sure. Went from a Blue dot CCT to a Green dot CCT. After talking to repair shop moving to a manual CCT. Green dot coming out. The shop had 2 other bikes (with 1 being another FJR) with CCT failure, 1 having bent valves.

 

[RossKean]

Wow. Very unusual for an updated CCT. Good thing you caught it and recognized what was causing the noise! First I have heard of on a 2008 or later FJR.

 

[RavFJR]

Wow. Very unusual for an updated CCT. Good thing you caught it and recognized what was causing the noise! First I have heard of on a 2008 or later FJR.

Rode to work this morning and still have some kind of noise going on... Can't tell if it's the timing cam chain or the transmission. The noise can be heard on both sides of the bike. A steady metallic noise at any RPM, as if the timing chain isn't getting any oil. The bike runs great, but just have this noise going on that makes me a bit uneasy. Moved my concerns to a new post for discussion.

 

[12tinker]

2006AE

just preventive @ 30K, no noise, did it myself

old one was OEM as no dot

sleeping better

 

[lnewlf]

put the green dot in @ 10 years ago..lot of miles and frequent redlines....still all good..

 

[MotoMike]

2007

53,000km (31,800 miles)

No noise.

 

[Dan S]

A – 2007

B – No noticeable noise at 40,000 miles, preventative maintenance

C – replaced the CCT myself with a green dot following the valve adjsutment document by Dwayne Verhey

D – there was no chain noise

E – no problem, preventative maintenance

F – no failure

G – N/A

H – paid for by me

I – replaced CCT only once at 40000 miles

J – no chain noise, preventative maintenance

K - confident Yamaha's redesign is sufficient