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FJRPierre

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Is this still the redneck attitude down south?
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"Ottawa Citizen Apr 10 2007

State officials in Georgia have launched an investigation to determine if mistakes were made when an Ottawa woman was forced to spend more than 11 hours in a detention centre for a pair of minor traffic offences.

"We are absolutely checking into it to determine if what was done was done correctly or incorrectly," said Bert Brantley, press secretary for Georgia governor Sonny Perdue, Tuesday morning.

The investigation was launched after 23-year-old Cheryl Kuehn had her mugshot and fingerprints taken and was forced to strip and shower before being put in a cell with other inmates after being stopped Saturday for failing to stop at a stop sign and speeding after exiting the I-95 in southern Georgia. ..."

(full story below...)

https://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...8cfc7c&k=17270

 
It prob has to due with the fact that she was on I-95 and out of country. That road is a known drug traffic road all along the eastern. seaboard. And the law they refer to is prob for all the illegal Mexicans and other South of the boarder jumpers. At least they arn't discriminating/racial profiling :rolleyes:

 
Thanks FJRPierre :good: ...just crossed them off my list of states to visit on the return trip from WFO this year....don't need that type of crap....no excuse for it....(Illegal alien with a passport?)....ya I don't think so :headbonk: ....

 
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I bet it was TIFT County!!!! Watch those guys!!! I got popped for 94 in 65 with Laser back in late Febuary.... Spotter and Stopper about 1 mile apart... Spotter never came up past the rear of the stoppers car to ID ME or The Bike. I had rain gear on pretty reflective yellow and silver when the officer stopped me, while he was running my license I took off the rain gear(top and bottom) sotred it before spotter ever came on the scene. Also this was just before bike week in Daytona... how many bikes you figure were on the road?? No Positive ID No Ticket sir! Taking it to court... Wish me luck... and This time, I was not speeding! I know Tift County too well, hell I normally smile and wave to their spotters on the overpasses there.... They also sit way back on ON RAMPS. O wait... the article said 95... not 75... HHHmmm got less intelligent types over there too huh...

Well jsut be warned about TIFT County GA.

 
I moved from west central Ohio to north Georgia last year. I have met a number of LEOs in the six months I have been here. All have been nothing but kind, courteous and professional in every respect. Georgia is a beautiful state and has some great riding roads. Don't let some anomaly prevent you visiting one of the nicest states in the south.

 
Same kind of thing happens on I-40 around Memphis. It's a big time drug trafficking route between east and west coasts, so if you have out of state plates on the car expect to be stopped. At least that's the way it was when I lived there in the 90's.

 
To diverge for a moment. You ever notice how often when you read that a car has been pulled over and found to be full of illegal substances, they were stopped for going 90 in a 60 zone. I mean how f*cking dumb do you have to be to transport a load of drugs and speed? There is no question Darwin was right! :)

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(We will now return to our originally scheduled thread.)

 
Sheriff vows to punish rogue Georgia officials

More than one Georgia corrections official could be disciplined over the treatment of an Ottawa woman who was kept in jail overnight after being arrested for minor traffic violations, the area sheriff said Wednesday.

Glynn County Sheriff Wayne Bennett said Cheryl Kuehn, a 23-year-old Carleton University master's student who was driving through Georgia on her way to a Florida vacation, should have been released within an hour of her arrest.

(update on story...)

https://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...1ac1dbd&k=0

 
Ditto on the callous GA attitude: knew a woman who was pulled over for 15 over on a freeway in GA when the traffic around her was moving much more quickly. She was very attractive & an easy mark because LEO's make her nervous. He gave her a song & dance about how he could take her in and book her. (I told her later that she should stop wearing makeup & dress frumpily when on the freeway.) I think the only thing that saved her was that her daughter was asleep in the back seat & the officer didn't see her when initially blipping the vehicle or chasing. She was going over the limit & therefore was guilty. However, there were plenty of other higher value targets on the road & there is a tendency (I know I'll catch hell for this) of selecting the least threatening--or most attractive depending on how you figure it--profiles to stop. But LEO's lives are in danger in a very real way because of the unpredictability of the yahoos they stop (certainly can't blame them for that & I wish it wasn't that way). If I'm a male LEO & I have a quota (I know such things don't officially exist) & I have to make stops, I would prefer to write tickets to young ladies. Attractive young ladies. Attractive young ladies who might be impressed with my authority & power. Attractive young ladies who might be impressed & aren't doing anything Saturday night.

All this is secondhand information & speculation, so feel free to discount it completely.

 
This is the apparent end of the saga. What is clear is that if you are a foreign national arrested in Glynn County, you will be detained and your immigration status will be checked. "Sheriff Bennett said Glynn County policy is to check all foreign nationals, regardless of the offence. In his statement, the sheriff said he has no intention of changing that policy."

According to the Govenor's Office spokesman "... an elected sheriff has the ability to set policy to some extent."

Ottawa Citizen Apr 18, 2007

Georgia jailer fired over Ottawa woman's ordeal

Two others suspended; sheriff says situation should have been quickly resolved

BY ANDREW SEYMOUR

One jail employee has been fired and two others suspended without pay after " officer error" resulted in 23- year- old Ottawa woman Cheryl Kuehn being detained for more than 10 hours at a Georgia detention centre for a pair of minor traffic violations.

In a statement released yesterday, Glynn County Sheriff Wayne Bennett said Mrs. Kuehn's extended stay at the detention centre occurred when a communications officer conducting an immigration check missed the response from immigration officials stating Mrs. Kuehn was legally allowed to be in the United States.

" There were supervisors on duty at the detention centre who should have been astute enough to not only question the unreasonable delay, which they did, but who should have taken action to resolve a very obvious problem," the sheriff said in the statement, which explained the decision to discipline the employees.

Mrs. Kuehn was on her way to a Florida vacation with her husband, brother- in- law and a friend when she was stopped for speeding and running a stop sign near Brunswick, Georgia, on April 7.

While the Carleton University graduate student should have been briefly detained while her husband posted a $ 222 U. S. bond, she was instead forced to strip naked, shower and don a navy blue jail uniform before being put in a cell with other inmates.

Yesterday, Mrs. Kuehn said from her parents' Ottawa home that she was disappointed someone who was " bound by policy" lost their job as a result of the incident.

" If all they do is fire people on the front line, it is not going to change their policy," said Mrs. Kuehn, who has suffered panic attacks and been diagnosed with acute post- traumatic stress since her detention.

" It's not dealing with the root issue. There should be no ICE ( Immigration and Customs Enforcement) check and there should be no arresting of Canadians for minor traffic violations."

Mrs. Kuehn would like to see changes to state law so that foreign visitors don't have to be taken into custody until they post bond for traffic tickets, along with the elimination of immigration checks for people carrying passports.

According to Sheriff Bennett, the immigration check was conducted in advance of a Georgia immigration law, scheduled to come into effect July 1. While the law states only people charged with felonies or drunk driving should be subject to the check, Sheriff Bennett said Glynn County policy is to check all foreign nationals, regardless of the offence. In his statement, the sheriff said he has no intention of changing that policy.

" I want to make it clear that the process of checking all foreign nationals through the LESC ( law enforcement support centre) is a routine procedure for our office and it will remain our procedure," he said. " It should in no way delay the intake or release of offenders, coming and going."

That stance has caused a great deal of concern among high- profile opponents of the controversial law, which also includes provisions to prevent illegal immigrants from collecting social services and punishes employers who hire illegal workers.

Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, said he anticipated the law could have " unintended consequences" for someone like Mrs. Kuehn, when his group opposed the legislation before it was passed last year.

" In order to prevent this from happening again, we need to make sure the state issues clear and specific guidelines on what the state can and cannot do in relation to" the law, said Mr. Gonzalez, who last week sent a letter to Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue, demanding an independent investigation.

" We need to have more friendly policies to foreign nationals who want to visit or do business in our state," he said, adding Georgia " should not be in the business of enforcing immigration laws," which is a federal responsibility.

Bert Brantley, press secretary to Mr. Perdue, said the governor's office is satisfied with the sheriff's report and does not intend to take more action.

" It appears it was an isolated incident and appropriate action has been taken to correct errors that have been made," said Mr. Brantley

He said it does not appear to be a statewide problem and doesn't appear to have anything to do with the new immigration law.

He said an elected sheriff has the ability to set policy to some extent.

" As long as policy and procedure are followed correctly, I think we are fine and there are no issues," said Mr. Brantley.

The governor's office is monitoring an investigation by the Georgia Department of Economic Development, which has responsibility for tourism, among other areas. Department spokeswoman Alison Tyrer said they are awaiting a report from the sheriff's office.

Mr. Gonzalez said an investigation by the sheriff ' s office isn't good enough. " Our state's economic interests are at stake, as well as our international image."

Atlanta lawyer Jamie Hernan, whose firm represents several immigrant rights groups in Georgia, said Mrs. Kuehn's case is an example of how the law is " flawed."

He said the law is the result of what he perceives as a growing " anti- immigrant" sentiment in the state and Mrs. Kuehn's case could be used to challenge the law and shape policy.

" The perception of the law is it is open season on immigrants in Georgia. ( Mrs. Kuehn's case) needs to be kept at the forefront because it is a classic example of how the law has allowed the state to move backward."

Mr. Hernan, who has offered to represent Mrs. Kuehn for free, if she decides to pursue legal action, said several high- profile groups, including the MexicanAmerican Legal Defence and Education Fund and the American Civil Liberties Union, have taken an interest.

But Sheriff Bennett dismissed critics who accuse his department of being overzealous.

" This incident was not the result of our having poorly interpreted Senate Bill 529 as some have ridiculously asserted," he said in the statement. " Our policy is sound, it just wasn't followed properly."

 
Thanks FJRPierre :good: ...just crossed them off my list of states to visit on the return trip from WFO this year....don't need that type of crap....no excuse for it....(Illegal alien with a passport?)....ya I don't think so :headbonk: ....
Don't skip GA. Just skip Glynn County. Or go to Glynn County and obey the law. It's a very nice area, though not for riding - flat and straight - but the marshes and barrier islands are great to see and explore.

This whole story sounds so much like some B movie that I'm quite sure we're not hearing the whole truth.

 
This whole story sounds so much like some B movie that I'm quite sure we're not hearing the whole truth.
A few people keep saying this; is the implication that somehow the victim was responsible for whatever happened to her...? :ph34r:
good point, Pierre. At least based on what we know, the story should shock us, regardless of whether we live in the States.

 
I moved from west central Ohio to north Georgia last year. I have met a number of LEOs in the six months I have been here. All have been nothing but kind, courteous and professional in every respect. Georgia is a beautiful state and has some great riding roads. Don't let some anomaly prevent you visiting one of the nicest states in the south.
Spoken like a true white boy :clapping:

Actually frayne is probably right, its an anomaly and georgia is a beautiful state.

And for those of you that think this banjo virtuoso came from west virginia guess again

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...was about northern georgia wilderness

 
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