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FiveOon05

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Over the past few weeks I ve noticed a bit of a wiggle in the front tire as I am coming into or in mid turn. I ve only noticed it going to the right in longer sweeper type turns. Air pressure is about 36psi front and rear and I usually check before heading out. Anybody got any ideas or suggestions?

Fiveoon05

 
Worn tires.

Worn wheel bearings.

Worn/loose steering bearings/head.

Incorrect suspension settings.

Worn shock oil.

Worn shock seals (You didn't blow one, did you?)

Shot springs.

Colder temps.

Tire inflation.

Bush.

The changing polarity of the Earth.

Give us a bit more info...

 
Something to think about...is the wiggle while you're running at a steady speed, or while you're in an accel/decel mode?

Try this test...in a safe, no traffic area:

Smoothly accelerate to about 60 mph in 1st or 2nd. Drop the tranny into neutral and while in a straight line, release the handlebar and coast. Does the bike go into a noticeable wobble/headshake around 50mph?

Don't try this if you aren't comfortable with 1) getting into neutral at 60mph, and 2) coasting down past 50 with your hands off the grips.

When/IF you start to get a headshake, don't panic. You won't go into a terminal tankslapper, but it CAN be disconcerting. Just put your hands lightly back on the bars. The wobble will stop.

I'm willing to bet you start to get a headshake right at 50mph. I've experienced it now on 2 FJRs with worn/cupped front tires. In fact, I'd be REAL surprised if it doesn't, following your "wiggle" description.

This "wiggle" is beginning to be referenced fairly frequently now that the forum is maturing. I'm thinking this is a fairly common problem on FJRs with front tires approaching the 3/4s of their useable life. The first FJR I drove, an 03 with 27K miles, had a badly cupped Avon on the front and wobbled terribly around 50mph. I told the dealer and they took it off the showroom floor until they could get the tire replaced.

My personal FJR is an '04 and the front tire, a Metzeler (gasp!) is approaching the 10k mile mark on the tire (5k in the last 2 months) and it's starting to cup and wobble. I'm going Avons for my next set to see how they do, but it just seems to be a fairly typical problem (cupping) with modern, heavier, more powerful bikes.

Oh, TWN...

So...this male penguin goes out for a Sunday ride and his bike breaks down. Luckily for him there is a garage nearby and he coasts on in. The mechanic says "I'll take a look at it but it's gonna be awhile." The penguin says, "That's okay, I see an ice cream stand just down the road and I think I'll go get myself an ice cream cone." So he waddles over to the stand and gets himself a double-scoop vanilla ice cream cone. It's a little tricky holding on to it with his flippers, and he gets ice cream on his beak and his face. By the time he's finished the cone, he's back at the garage. The mechanic looks up from under the fairing and says, "Looks like you blew a seal." The penguin indignantly replies, "It's ice cream, buddy. I ain't that kinda guy."

 
Man...if only my front end wiggled more...sigh....maybe if my mom had named me Tyrone....sighhhh.....enjoy it with those wide sleepers.... :D

bobby

 
Dang! I thought this thread was going to be one of Motorgods new avatars! :chicka:

 
Oh, TWN...
So...this male penguin goes out for a Sunday ride and his bike breaks down. Luckily for him there is a garage nearby and he coasts on in. The mechanic says "I'll take a look at it but it's gonna be awhile." The penguin says, "That's okay, I see an ice cream stand just down the road and I think I'll go get myself an ice cream cone." So he waddles over to the stand and gets himself a double-scoop vanilla ice cream cone. It's a little tricky holding on to it with his flippers, and he gets ice cream on his beak and his face. By the time he's finished the cone, he's back at the garage. The mechanic looks up from under the fairing and says, "Looks like you blew a seal." The penguin indignantly replies, "It's ice cream, buddy. I ain't that kinda guy."
...so the penguin turns to the polar bear and says, "Hey, no soap radio!"

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! ;)

 
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My personal FJR is an '04 and the front tire, a Metzeler (gasp!) is approaching the 10k mile mark on the tire (5k in the last 2 months) and it's starting to cup and wobble.

Oh, TWN...
Holy smokes!!! 10K miles on a Metz front tire. The left and right sides of the tread were almost gone by the time mine got to 7k miles.

 
Glad someone posted this. I've got about 7,200 on my Metzlers and the front end does feel kinda squirrly (spelling?). Not really something I can say happens at xx speed at xx angle of bank, etc, just an overall squirrly feel I run 40 in the back and 39 in the front. The tread on the tires actually looks real good, but I guess it's time to think about new tires before the prime riding season. Will probably go with the Pilot Roads.

 
Honestly, I don't think it's tire brand-specific. There have been as many posts about "wiggly" Avons as Michelins as Metzelers. Someone's bound to chime in any second with "mine is just fine--never done it" but I'd bet those people are the exception, not the rule. I know too many people, and have read too many posts on this and other forums, concerning vague, unsteady handling from the front end on heavy, powerful motorcycles with tires that are beginning to show wear and/or cupping.

It's the nature of the beast. My ZRX did the same thing with the OEM Bridgestones, and the replacement Pilot Sports, but so far, knock wood, hasn't displayed the symptoms with my Pilot Powers, but I've also heavily upgraded the suspension.

And it's not a matter of worn-out tires. My Metz has 3-4K left on it, but it IS starting the ol' Hamamatsu Headshake. When it gets really scary, not just annoying, I'll toss it for a new set of Avons.

 
...so the penguin turns to the polar bear and says, "Hey, no soap radio!"

That is soooo funny! :haha:

 
Hey FiveOon...I run 40psi up front ( I now have the Avons )...I came to realize early in the life of my last set of tires (OEM ...stones) that cupping was going to be a problem. I read elsewhere that 36psi is not enough for this bike...I know, I know, the manual calls for 36...BUT, if you want to reduce the rate of cupping and you want your tires to last longer overall, you will run at least 40psi minimum, front to back. Cheers! :assasin:

 
I'll tell you what, with a little over 4k on my Z6 front, I'll never ride them again. The front end flops into turns because of how the tire wears. And the front end is a lot more vague as compared to the Avons. Lesson learned.

 
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