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Will the G2 tube help smooth out a 05 or is just for 06 up.
G2 tube
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ionbeam
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The G2 is only intended for Gen II years '06 and '07. The Gen II '08 does not have a
concentric eccentric throttle pulley so the G2 is unnecessary.
Edited: For accuracy.
Edited: For accuracy.
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Don't you mean eccentric?
As in: I think all the '06 and '07 2nd gen throttle pulleys (and some of their their owners) are eccentric.
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ionbeam
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Umm, yes, that's what I meant, thanks for fix. Can I hire you as my proof reader?Don't you mean eccentric?
As in: I think all the '06 and '07 2nd gen throttle pulleys (and some of their their owners) are eccentric.
Capt. Bob
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Sure. Make mine 80 (proof)Umm, yes, that's what I meant, thanks for fix. Can I hire you as my proof reader?Don't you mean eccentric?
As in: I think all the '06 and '07 2nd gen throttle pulleys (and some of their their owners) are eccentric.
Cdogman
Bad Boy
Yes, The G2 will help if the goal is smoothness... Regardless of the year. It does what it is intended to do.
Practice also helps allot.. Instead of "Rolling On" when I load up in a corner I was told (ST-ART Track day instruction) to think of my wrist as having a thousand positions. I dont roll on setting maint. throttle in a turn. I turn my wrist to position 1-2-3-4-5 whatever. Then I am not modulating the roll of my wrist. I have a practiced position of 1, that Is lets say for argument, .5 Degrees after the cable tension starts. Position 2 is 1.0 Degrees..
That helps me allot. No smooth roll-on... Position one, then two.. then three.. Then after I have my Maintenance throttle in place.. I choose a roll on point.. By then Throttle snatch is no longer an issue
Anyway, That worked for me to help reduce snatch... and upsetting the chasis in a turn
Practice also helps allot.. Instead of "Rolling On" when I load up in a corner I was told (ST-ART Track day instruction) to think of my wrist as having a thousand positions. I dont roll on setting maint. throttle in a turn. I turn my wrist to position 1-2-3-4-5 whatever. Then I am not modulating the roll of my wrist. I have a practiced position of 1, that Is lets say for argument, .5 Degrees after the cable tension starts. Position 2 is 1.0 Degrees..
That helps me allot. No smooth roll-on... Position one, then two.. then three.. Then after I have my Maintenance throttle in place.. I choose a roll on point.. By then Throttle snatch is no longer an issue
Anyway, That worked for me to help reduce snatch... and upsetting the chasis in a turn
clutchless1
Well-known member
I actually looked at the G2 Throttle Tube I purchased and noticed how the G2 had a slight ramp to give the throttle a slower reaction compaired to the stock setup. I thought about it and figured if I screwed it up I could throw the plastic tube away. I brought out my trusty dusty Rotary Tool and ground more of a ramp in the plastic tube than the G2 had. Once finished I reinstalled the stock plastic tube and never looked back (I still have the aluminum G2).
So there are many ways to fix the throttle problem. I absolutely agree with Cdogman's suggestion about the different positions his wrist can imitate. Between the spring unwind (center one only), the G2 install, and Cdogman's suggestion we may have this thing about perfect. It's almost funny most of us aren't engineers, but we all come together and discuss our problems. Once this is done we all come up with a creative fix for something the factory didn't think about.
So there are many ways to fix the throttle problem. I absolutely agree with Cdogman's suggestion about the different positions his wrist can imitate. Between the spring unwind (center one only), the G2 install, and Cdogman's suggestion we may have this thing about perfect. It's almost funny most of us aren't engineers, but we all come together and discuss our problems. Once this is done we all come up with a creative fix for something the factory didn't think about.
This picture shows exactly what the G2 throttle tube does:
The stock 2nd gen throttle tube (on the left) is a linear pull tube, but the diameter of the pulley is large. The G2 tube has a ramped, or cam shaped profile. The smaller diameter section encountered in the first degrees of rotation allow "finer" control and the larger diameter section allows less total rotation.
So now you know what you need to dremel away if you want to make the stock tube have a "G2" profile...
AFAIK, the 1st gens did not have the same throttle smoothness problem as 2nd gens so I'm not so sure you'd get significant improvement on them. Does anyone have a picture of a stock 1st gen throttle tube? I wonder why the problem only exists on 2nd gens? Were first gens already ramped? Maybe they were of the smaller diameter all the way around?
Enquiring minds...
[edit] You know I was just looking at that picture again and one undesired consequence of the G2 ramped profile is that the throttle cable would have to be kept looser to accommodate the difference in the two cables (open cable and return cable). I like to keep mine with almost all the slack dialed out...
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fossilrider
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Yes, the G2 although designed to fix the problem with 06's, will make the 05's and below even smoother. I know as I installed it on mine last year. For me it was a great addition to an already great ride, it helped me control the abruptness of the fuel injection.
I'm sure that you didn't think to take a picture of the stock '05 tube, but do you recall if it looked to be about the same diameter as the 2nd gen one above?
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