pista
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Not mine but perhaps somebody here could use it.
It's front seat only and has a buy it now of $250 with free shipping.
It's front seat only and has a buy it now of $250 with free shipping.
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The link to the sale would be helpful. It ain't Friday
Twigg
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It looks to have the added "heavy weight" spring option, which I believe is what the square thing at the rear of the seating area is. And based on the large spread on the wings, I've gotta figure it was originally made for a big guy
Still a hell of a deal.
Still a hell of a deal.
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Twigg
Just an old, bald man!
The "heavyweight spring" is simply a heavier spring fitted in the normal place, that is horizontally between the wings.
That piece at the back suggests that the original owner only had the front done and an extra pad was added to fill in the space between the seat and an aux. gas tank.
If you can get the production number off the base of the seat, Russell will be able to tell you the original spec.
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No. I don't think so.
Twigg
Just an old, bald man!
Fred ... Go look at the seat design on the Russell website.
There is ONE spring, and the heavyweight spring requires zero extra parts that would not fit the stock seat, whether single or two piece. That square bit at the back has nothing to do with the seat construction, it is an extra pad the buyer wanted and when I have seen them before on Russell seats, they are there to fill a gap.
The spring Russell fits is a flat spring anchored in the wings and running side to side. When you weigh more than the prescribed amount, they simply fit a thicker spring.
This may help:
https://www.day-long.com/seat_patent.html
There is ONE spring, and the heavyweight spring requires zero extra parts that would not fit the stock seat, whether single or two piece. That square bit at the back has nothing to do with the seat construction, it is an extra pad the buyer wanted and when I have seen them before on Russell seats, they are there to fill a gap.
The spring Russell fits is a flat spring anchored in the wings and running side to side. When you weigh more than the prescribed amount, they simply fit a thicker spring.
This may help:
https://www.day-long.com/seat_patent.html
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I have looked at their web site way more than is natural for any human, and that link doesn't help at all. I've seen that tired old photo many times before, considering that I've already sent them too much of my money already over the years. But that drawing doesn't depict the construction of the seat or spring. Those are all super-proprietary top secrets. They would have to kill you if they revealed them to you.
OTOH, what I have noticed first hand is the square (or rectangular) thingee on many Russell seats in the past, and have always wondered why it was there. The only thing that I can come up with is that it has been present on the seats that I later found out have the heavy weight option.
There is some correlation to this, though I have not done extensive research on it. Otherwise, it is hard to understand why they would waste the space behind an (obviously) larger rider with that 2" bolster that could be better used for the large riders own derriere. FWIW I do not have the heavyweight option in mine, nor the rectangular rear cushion area.
OTOH, what I have noticed first hand is the square (or rectangular) thingee on many Russell seats in the past, and have always wondered why it was there. The only thing that I can come up with is that it has been present on the seats that I later found out have the heavy weight option.
There is some correlation to this, though I have not done extensive research on it. Otherwise, it is hard to understand why they would waste the space behind an (obviously) larger rider with that 2" bolster that could be better used for the large riders own derriere. FWIW I do not have the heavyweight option in mine, nor the rectangular rear cushion area.
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Twigg
Just an old, bald man!
We've flogged this horse long enough, but I will say that I have seen plenty "heavy duty" Russells that do not have that bolster which, in any event, is behind the rider's ass, and would be useless for anything other than lumbar support.
You may be right about the springs. As I said, I am not positive.
But, I can't make heads or tails of when they decide to stick that extra square thing on the back and thought that maybe they are hiding some part of an anchoring point for the heavier springs under it. If it is just a matter of substituting a stiffer spring why would they charge an extra $45 per seat for the option?
But maybe the square thing is for folks that like to sit close to the tank and they just use it as a "filler" to push you forward?
Those people that have the square thing on their seats may have more knowledge of what it is.
But, I can't make heads or tails of when they decide to stick that extra square thing on the back and thought that maybe they are hiding some part of an anchoring point for the heavier springs under it. If it is just a matter of substituting a stiffer spring why would they charge an extra $45 per seat for the option?
But maybe the square thing is for folks that like to sit close to the tank and they just use it as a "filler" to push you forward?
Those people that have the square thing on their seats may have more knowledge of what it is.
Twigg
Just an old, bald man!
If you look at the way a "Tanji" style tank fits on the FJR, that extra pad would sit right between the front of the tank and the base of your spine ... I think it is simply a pad for added comfort.
I've seen them before, both as a comfort pad and sometimes simply to fill in a gap.
I've seen them before, both as a comfort pad and sometimes simply to fill in a gap.
One seat that I am thinking of in particular that seems breaks these rules is local NERDS bbdig's. His has that square thing.
He doesn't have any aux fuel cell. He is taller than me (at ~ 6'3") so I wouldn't think that he would want to sit closer to the tank than necessary or need the push forwards. And he had his seats made up together "dual" as Mrs bbdig still rides with him often. But he told me that he did ask for them to build it with the heavy duty seat suspension.
I'll have to ask someone at Russell what that square thing is all about.
He doesn't have any aux fuel cell. He is taller than me (at ~ 6'3") so I wouldn't think that he would want to sit closer to the tank than necessary or need the push forwards. And he had his seats made up together "dual" as Mrs bbdig still rides with him often. But he told me that he did ask for them to build it with the heavy duty seat suspension.
I'll have to ask someone at Russell what that square thing is all about.
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TomInPA
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You got a great deal. Surprised it wasn't offered on the forum.
Bustanut joker
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You wont regret it bro.. Ya stole it.
Before you do, get it adjusted.
You bought a seat made for another guy. He may not have been shaped exactly the same as you. That is why they call them "custom" seats.
You bought a seat made for another guy. He may not have been shaped exactly the same as you. That is why they call them "custom" seats.
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