My P-89 is a pre-Brady and holds 15 115 grain hollow points. If I put two in the same hole does that make it an 18mm?
Yep, they make a big hole. My Berettas, also pre-ban, are loaded with hollow points, and for all the talk here and elsewhere on the net that you need a cannon for self defense and that the 9mm** is the phallic equivalent of a 22 short, I sure wouldn't want to get hit by one, especially if it's loaded with hollowpoints or fragmenting bullets. I'll concede that pointing a .45 or .50 muzzle at someone is probably a little bit more intimidating to that person, but by the time you get to the point of pointing a gun at someone, you sure as hell better not be counting on intimidation.
So . . . it looks like the gun debate is almost the perfect microcosm for the issues raised in this REAL motorcycle thread. After all, most HDs have more displacement and are bigger than most ricers, and one can claim that they're American made (except for NUMEROUS imported parts) and American tradition, so THAT's why they're so much better and so much more "real". :lol:
And that kinda begs the question for me: why do we ride and own handguns (among other activities)? Because of what it says about us? Or do each of us have better reasons related to the activity itself? I'd bet that it's some mix of those two things for everyone, and that we succumb to the temptation of running others' choices down for the primary purpose of covering some of our own less noble reasons. I doubt any of us are exempt.
**BTW, I may be wrong, but I've long labored under the belief that a 9mm spits a .357 inch diameter bullet and has a .380 inch outside diameter shell casing -- same as a .380, a .38, a .357 and all the rest of the .38 calibers (supers, etc). I have never heard that a 9mm is a .37 caliber, but maybe that's the result of the conversion from metric to english measure?
