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While checking the off topic about the cop that got pulled over speeding with his daughter as pillion. I clicked on the link to the article about the stripper/drug dealer. Another articles tag line caught my eye on the right side. This is ridiculous and a heck of a way to die. :blink: I wouldn't want to be the guy that was drunk. :assassin:

https://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?...so=news.rgj.com

 
Seems odd that his friends were looking around the accident scene for his 'body' rather than looking for him. I guess they were sure he had died in the crash. I think I would have hoped for a better outcome and looked for the person to see if he could be helped.

 
Ummmm, being the dead kid or his family would not be too great, either.

How drunk was the 54-year-old to not feel the crash or notice the impact, that the motorcyclist had actually crashed through the window, or that the guy was at least partially in the car!!! I don't feel sorry at all for the drunk driver- I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

 
RIP to the rider.

If the driver was that drunk he should get capitol punishment, because he knows it illegal and he put others in grave danger with his decision to drive.

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I hope the car driver gets 25 years.

This accident is only reinforcing my opinion that it’s a good idea to stay of our bikes on Friday and Saturday nights. I read that 70% of all bike fatalities take place in the first few hours of Saturday and Sunday mornings when the most DUI drivers are out on the road at the same time.

Unfortunately most of the Saturday and Sunday morning biker fatalities are caused the bike riders them selves in single vehicle accidents.

Get in and off the road early on Friday and Saturday nights, sober.

 
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How drunk was the 54-year-old to not feel the crash or notice the impact, that the motorcyclist had actually crashed through the window, or that the guy was at least partially in the car!!! I don't feel sorry at all for the drunk driver- I hope he gets the book thrown at him.
Was the drunk driver truly unaware of the crash? or was his reasoning so impaired that it just wasn't important enough to matter? My opinion, FWIW, is that he knew something bad had happened but his reaction was to run for home rather than dealing with it more appropriately.

With regard to staying off the road Friday and Saturday nights, that may help but the DUI drivers are out there at other times too. On Thursday evening around 8pm we lost our electricity after an incident on the main road close to our house. (I won't call it an accident because that driver most likely drank the alcohol knowingly, and then knowingly got into her truck). On a straight four lane road with a wide median, speed limit 40mph, she managed to take out two light poles and about twenty feet of block wall. The road was closed for several hours. Crews from the power company, the City and the Cable company were there most of the night never mind the large number of emergency personnel.

When will WE, as a community, learn that DUI is not acceptable? What will it take?

Jill

 
Motorcycle Fatalities Increasing: Read the October 2001full report "Fatal Single Vehicle Motorcycle Crashes" (DOT HS 809 360) from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA); a study recently conducted on motorcycle accidents and safety

Here's a summary of NHTSA DOT HS 809 360:

Single vehicle motorcycle crashes account for about 45 percent of all motorcyclist fatalities. More than 38,000 motorcyclists have died in single vehicle motorcycle crashes between 1975 and 1999. The report claims to provide data for insight into possible causes for these fatalities. According to the report, from 1990 through 1999, there were a total of 11,038 fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. During that same time period, there were an estimated 294,000 non-fatal single vehicle motorcycle crashes. Of these, an estimated 39,000 involved property damage only and 255,000 involved injuries. Motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes decreased each year from 1990 to 1996, reaching a historic low of 937 in 1996 and again in 1997. In 1998, the fatalities increased to 1,042 (11.2 percent increase); in 1998 and in 1999 they increased to 1,140 (9.4 percent). The overall increase in motorcyclist fatalities from 1997 to 1999 was 203 (21.7 percent).

Report Conclusions: Findings from the FARS (Fatality Analysis Reporting System) data illustrate possible reasons for motorcyclist fatalities in single vehicle motorcycle crashes:

• Helmet use among fatally injured motorcyclists below 50 percent

• More motorcyclist fatalities are occurring on rural roads

High blood alcohol levels are a major problem among motorcycle operators

Half of the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash

Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway

• Undivided roadways account for a majority of the fatalities

Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding as an operator contributing factor in the crash

Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night • Collision with a fixed object is a significant factor in over half of the fatalities

Braking and steering maneuvers possibly contribute for almost 25 percent of the fatalities

• More riders age 40 and over are getting killed

Almost one third of the fatally injured operators did not have a proper license

1998 Motorcycle Facts:

• 2,284 motorcyclists died and approximately 49,000 were injured in highway crashes in the United States.

• Per mile traveled in 1998, a motorcyclist is approximately 16 times more likely to die in a crash than an automobile occupant. And 3x (times) as likely to be injured.

• Head injury is a leading cause of death in motorcycle crashes.

• In 1998, 46% of fatally injured motorcycle drivers were not wearing helmets at the time of the crash.

• NHTSA estimates that motorcycle helmets reduce the likelihood of a fatality by 29% in a crash.

In 1998, 41% of all motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes were speeding.

Nearly one out of five motorcycle drivers (18%) involved in fatal crashes in 1998 was operating with an invalid license at the time of the collision. Motorcycle drivers involved in fatal crashes in 1998 had higher intoxication rates than any other type of motor vehicle driver at 31%.

• In 1998, 500 motorcyclists lives were saved due to helmet usage; 307 could have been saved.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

 
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I had to go back and read the article again. I thought I remembered that it said the bike was traveling at 80 MPH, and it dose.

I don’t think all the blame can be put on the car driver. What about the bike rider? He did not deserve to die. No one does. The report has the bike rider traveling at 80 MPH. I used Yahoo yellow pages to find a hotel in Perris, CA. The desk clerk said Highway 74 it is not an interstate Highway. She said it has many businesses along the road and the speed limit is 45 MPH.

80 MPH is not cool in an area like that with many driveways. Maybe if the car driver hadn't been drinking he might have seen the biker. We all know how fast you can close on things doing 80. Maybe it takes 3 seconds for someone who stops at the driveway to get far enough out into cross traffic for someone to plow into the rear window. 3 seconds at 80 mph is 352 feet. That is more than the length of a football field. How many of us look that far down the road when entering it from a driveway?

I'll probably get flamed here, but I think the rider bears a large portion of the responsibility here. Nobody should have to die from their or other's mistakes. But it happens. I don't know exactly what the accident area was like, whether or not there were lots of driveways or not, whether it's one lane or two in each direction, but the speed limit was 45 MPH not 80 MPH. And yes, you've got to be ****** up to be hit like that and have someone fly into the back of your car and not notice it. But the rider ****** up as well by going that fast. How much slower he would have had to be going to avoid the accident is also something we don't/won't know. What's obvious is that two people ****** up. And one died as the result. The blame goes to both sides. And the percentage of blame for each is something that will likely never be determined to any degree of accuracy.

If the driver was not drunk and stayed at the scene of the accident, he most likely would not have been charged with anything. Its very likely the bike rider would have been held responsible for the damage to the car.

Bottom line, take this incident to heart and ride accordingly. You never know when circumstances will conspire against you. Ride safe, live long and prosper.

 
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I agree that the rider is partially at fault for excessive speed, since 80mph is not legal anywhere, even on the freeways.

Having said that, Hwy 74 is a very long road with a varied character. There are 15mph turns in places, and residential/business areas in others. There are also long, straight, boring stretches. I'm guessing that most of the SoCal members have been guilty of a little excessive speed in that area. If nothing else, one just wants to get out of Perris, which is a dull and extremely HOT place to pass through.

I'm not condoning his speed, especially at night, but just trying to understand.

Jill

 
Unfortunately BOTH persons were doing something unsafe, and they'll both pay for it. The rider paid with his life. The DUI driver will have to live with the emotional trauma that will ensue when they sober up.

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