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In the superstock class in the UK traction control is not allowed but telemetry is.

Telemetry is the downloading of elctronic data from the bike at the end of the race or practice session allowing you to keep a record of the settings and to work out what effect any changes that you made might have had.

Traction control is controled by the on-board computer. It compares the revolutions of the front wheel and the rear wheel. When the rear wheel starts to rotate faster than the front it switches off one of the cylinders, thus reducing the drive to the rear wheel and stopping it spinning, the computer then switches the cylinder back on and the bike stays rubber side down.

Because telemetry is allowed a front spindle sensor is allowed, which leaves the opportunity there for the indescriminate to program in traction control. This is easily findable by the scrutineers....unless the team is clever.

They can do a couple of things, one is to program traction control in, but set the computer to return to a default setting as soon as the ignition is switched off. When the rider goes out to race he has traction control. He comes into Park Ferme having won the race and switches off the bike. The computer then switches back to the 'other' engine map which doesn't have traction control so when the scrutineers receive a complaint from another team because our cheat was able to drive out of corners like he was on rails, they cannot find any evidence.

The other trick is to use 2 engine maps. One gives traction control the other does not. The traction control map trips in when the front wheel passes lets say 30mph (again using the spindle sensor as the switch). The bike is checked by the scrutineers and they can find no sign of traction control in the engine map. They think 'aha, maybe we should have the bike running and set it on a dyno'. This still will not trigger it as the front wheel is stationary. The same trick can be done to enhance power output to illegal levels....but only with the front wheel doing 30mph.

I mention all of this because the championship leader and runaway pole setter in the superstock class has today been disqualified for failing to go to Park Ferme after setting pole. You just don't do that. He was visibly faster on the straights and out of the corners at the last round, and was the talk of the paddock. It seems someone must have lodged a complaint and he was tipped off.

 
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Cheating in racing? How unthinkable!

Years ago, AJ Foyt had his race car in for tech inspection and was getting more & more upset because they were niggling him on minor items. The had the fuel tank out to make sure it didn't have too much capacity and found that it held something like a pint beyond what was allowed. The chief inspector said something like

"Sorry Mr. Foyt, but that's 27 tech violations."

At which time the great AJ got in the car - still without a gas tank - fired it up, yelled "Make that 28, *******" and burned rubber right out of the garage. The tech inspectors had missed the fuel in the frame tubes.

 
Years ago, AJ Foyt had his race car in for tech inspection and was getting more & more upset because they were niggling him on minor items. The had the fuel tank out to make sure it didn't have too much capacity and found that it held something like a pint beyond what was allowed. The chief inspector said something like "Sorry Mr. Foyt, but that's 27 tech violations."

At which time the great AJ got in the car - still without a gas tank - fired it up, yelled "Make that 28, *******" and burned rubber right out of the garage. The tech inspectors had missed the fuel in the frame tubes.
"Great"?? right-o... this is 1 of 2 reasons why I don't watch NASCAR, the other being the boring "go fast, turn left" stuff.

Seriously though, when you've got a literal black box like the ECU, you can hack it quite a lot. I think trying to ban TC is a little pointless, but I also don't really like racing with TC. So you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. :( Trying to ban it just penalizes the ethical guys, so make it legal and put everyone back on the same footing.

F1 successfully bans it by having everyone use the same ECU, but then everyone also races the same engine configuration. That won't work in bikes with twins, inline-4s, V-4s, V-5s, steel valve springs, pneumatic valve springs, etc.

 
Bag on us rednecks all you want...

We are the ones that originally coined the phrase, "There's only two kinds of racers, losers and cheaters. The difference being, who get's caught!"

Not every race secret is clearly illegal, but that doesn't eliminate the need and desire to keep it exactly that, SECRET. Sometimes you try something that MAY be against the rules, yet you know better than to tell anyone because we all know that word gets around. The officials are just as likely to divulge your secrets and blow your competitive edge as anyone.

Anytime you are noticeably faster than all the rest, somebody is likely to protest. An experienced racer knows to "suck it up" and refuse the protest/tech inspection if the secret is a good one. You must then focus on finding a better way to hide it or abandon it altogether.

 
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Cheat!!.

Ducati got caught out 2 races ago doing a bit of "rule stretching"

MotoGP bikes have a 1 litre fuel over flow bottle, but Ducati was actually filling it up before a race to give them a bit more.

They attracted attention by having a black over flow bottle, others had clear bottles.

The bottle size has now been reduced to a 250cc capacity.

 
And the Patriots video taping was done purely for the entertainment of their third cameraman in his own living room. Riiiiight. :glare:

 
Brings up a good point with regards to sport tourers,

I wonder how long before ABS and Traction control both are standard items on bikes like the FJR..

Time will tell,

WW

 
Bag on us rednecks all you want...
We are the ones that originally coined the phrase, "There's only two kinds of racers, losers and cheaters. The difference being, who get's caught!"
Well I for one am glad Josh Hayes got DQed at Daytona. 'bout time somebody got a smack upside the head for cheating.

 
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