Inflating your odometer reading

[Anthony]

Is it possible to inflate the FJR's odometer reading? It could come in real handy if you wanted a way to simultaneously brag about your false iron butt rally, devalue your bike, and land yourself in the pokey!

 

[madmike2]

I suppose one could put the bike on the center stand, lock the throttle with the bike in 5th gear and take a nap.

Other than that, since it has an electronic odometer, one would need the knowledge of a geek to know how to modify the impulses from the speedometer pickup on the back of the engine and "fool" the odometer.

BUT....why?

 

[slapnpop]

Or you could bribe skooterG for one of his instrument clusters... I'm just sayin'

 

[HYCLE]

Here you go.Linky

Just connect it in place of the speed sensor. Better connect a battery tender and turn on the ignition.

 

[Ignacio]

brag about your false iron butt rally,

Except the Iron Butt Rally uses MULTIPLE other methods to establish mileage than just your odometer. While I only know of a couple beyond the obvious details included with receipts....I know enough to know that's purported IBR mileages aren't made up.

We'll assume you're asking for some other non-sketchy reason that's not clear from your post.

 

[RsvlFeej]

Is it possible to inflate the FJR's odometer reading? It could come in real handy if you wanted a way to simultaneously brag about your false iron butt rally, devalue your bike, and land yourself in the pokey!

Flip the readout from Miles into Km - you'll fool all but the observant (Wait, do GenIIs have that feature? - I know the superior GenIs do).

 

[Anthony]

BUT....why?

I suppose the thought formed when I was reading about people losing their mileage totals when swapping out their entire front end, and how one could add back the lost mileage.

 

[wfooshee]

Just like any motor vehicle, that's what odometer statements on the title are for.

 

[tmc]

Gauge cluster replacements will also cause a "reset". At least on GenI bikes that is.

Which makes filling out title paperwork or bringing it in for service mean that there is near always some math to do. Don't understand why MammaYamma decided to not only keep the mileage within the cluster, but not allow some way to correct it if necessary.

Hindsight really is 20/20 :glare:

 

[Big-D]

Seems like this post is referring mostly to purposely inflating ones odometer.

I did not see anything mentioned about the inaccuracy built right into the bike from the factory. With the diameter of the stock rear tire (180/55-17), my speedometer was showing a 4-5mph discrepancy at 75 mph. This in turn would indicate more miles being racked up than is really being ridden. That computes anywhere from 6-8%. That could mean for every 1000 miles ridden could potentially add an additional 60-80 miles. It could be enough to alter resale value.

After I installed my car tire (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus), my speedometer is still showing a discrepancy of about 2mph according to my GPS. But this particular tire lists its diameter at 25.0", whereas most other car tires this size lists their diameter at 25.1. Many Darksiders claim their speedometer as being dead-on after installing a car tire. That 1/10th of an inch could make all the difference.

Just Saying!! <_<

 

[rickcorwn]

There's a company out there that makes a trailer that has a speedo drive hooked up to the trailer axle. Yup, you guessed it so you can add miles to your bike while you trailer it :blink: :blink: :blink:

 

[wfooshee]

Gauge cluster replacements will also cause a "reset". At least on GenI bikes that is.
Which makes filling out title paperwork or bringing it in for service mean that there is near always some math to do. Don't understand why MammaYamma decided to not only keep the mileage within the cluster, but not allow some way to correct it if necessary.

Hindsight really is 20/20 :glare:

Again, no different than any gauge cluster replacement on any motor vehicle. I had a Chevy once with an electronic gauge cluster****, and the odometer mileage was stored in the cluster. It had to be replaced when everything went dark one day, so my title had a "not actual mileage, indicated plus XX,XXX" or something like that.

It's not a Yamaha design flaw, it's a government requirment for securing the odometer.

 

[wheatonFJR]

You want to what??? Increase the mileage shown on your odo???

WTF?! (wow that's fascinating)

 

[tmc]

Gauge cluster replacements will also cause a "reset". At least on GenI bikes that is.
Which makes filling out title paperwork or bringing it in for service mean that there is near always some math to do. Don't understand why MammaYamma decided to not only keep the mileage within the cluster, but not allow some way to correct it if necessary.

Hindsight really is 20/20 :glare:

Again, no different than any gauge cluster replacement on any motor vehicle. I had a Chevy once with an electronic gauge cluster****, and the odometer mileage was stored in the cluster. It had to be replaced when everything went dark one day, so my title had a "not actual mileage, indicated plus XX,XXX" or something like that.

It's not a Yamaha design flaw, it's a government requirment for securing the odometer.

Hmm... guess that makes sense - when they replaced the ECU in my Miata the readout did not change.

Still, you'd think correction would be possible by dealer techs. Replacing a cluster (for one with less miles), especially on a bike, seems like it is far easier than having the correct equipment and know-how to recal an odometer. Suppose the same could be said for an ECU...

Guess we will all just have to be honest.

 

[Fred W]

Seems like this post is referring mostly to purposely inflating ones odometer.
I did not see anything mentioned about the inaccuracy built right into the bike from the factory. With the diameter of the stock rear tire (180/55-17), my speedometer was showing a 4-5mph discrepancy at 75 mph. This in turn would indicate more miles being racked up than is really being ridden. That computes anywhere from 6-8%. That could mean for every 1000 miles ridden could potentially add an additional 60-80 miles. It could be enough to alter resale value.

Yes, the speedo reads optimistic (high), but the odometer reads pretty much dead nuts with the stock sized tire. Although they both get their signal from the same sender, the speedo is intentionally optimistic to keep people out of trouble. Putting a tire large enough to compensate the speedo will cause the odometer to read low by the same (small) amount.

 

[HotRodZilla]

Seems like this post is referring mostly to purposely inflating ones odometer.
I did not see anything mentioned about the inaccuracy built right into the bike from the factory. With the diameter of the stock rear tire (180/55-17), my speedometer was showing a 4-5mph discrepancy at 75 mph. This in turn would indicate more miles being racked up than is really being ridden. That computes anywhere from 6-8%. That could mean for every 1000 miles ridden could potentially add an additional 60-80 miles. It could be enough to alter resale value.

Yes, the speedo reads optimistic (high), but the odometer reads pretty much dead nuts with the stock sized tire. Although they both get their signal from the same sender, the speedo is intentionally optimistic to keep people out of trouble. Putting a tire large enough to compensate the speedo will cause the odometer to read low by the same (small) amount.

I've heard this before, but is anyone really sure, or is this just kind of an assumption? I know that when I take a trip on the bike and zero the odometer and my GPS, my bike always shows more miles than the GPS. The funny thing is it's about 5% more than the GPS and my speed is usually about 5% higher than actual. I'm betting our odos are reporting slightly higher mileage than we are actually riding.

 

[Fred W]

I know for mine that this is true. My GPS shows me the speedo is optimistic by a 3-4 mph at 60, while at the same time my odometer clicks over an even mile on the "measured statute" miles. These are not the interstate mile markers (those are fairly innacurate). These are announced as "Measured Miles".

 

[Bungie]

Last years EOM my mileage check by the odometer was 4301km, by the GPS 4220. Not a huge diff, but a diff none the less. Guess that means when I do my SaddleSore1600 I'd better do 1700km!

 

[Fred W]

You can't really compare rolling miles to GPS miles. This is pretty well known. A GPS plays "connect the dots" with straight lines between the samples that it takes along the way. This will always be a small bit lower than the actual statute miles following the parabola of the road.

Try a measured mile.