Initiation to the Crash Club

[skyway]

Bummer about the crash, but glad you got up and walked away.

I'm also really sorry to hear that you don't have the insurance to get it all healed up. A quick visual at what your looking at for a complete home style garage restoration will be in the order of around $5K. Sounds high, but you have many tweaked $ubframe pieces, not counting paint, plastic, muffler, lights, brackets, who knows what else? The stuff adds up real fast.

Gary McCoy may also have some help with the sticker shock. I would stay away from Ebay on used frame pieces, since you won't know for sure if anything is already tweaked or damaged.

Carefully check everything out and then post up a list of wanted parts, there's a lot of members here with all kinds of stuff lying around in their garages.

 

[IndianaTom]

Damn dude.. I can't help but feel somewhat responsible. If I'd cut class tonight, we would have been riding on the candy *** roads (cause I'm a candy ***) and all we'd gotten was cold.

Glad you're ok man, make that bike right soon.

Tom

 

[Fencer]

Look on the bright side.

with all the mud on the bike - at least its not gay anymore

Glad your OK

 

[shokdimn]

Crash = bummer. Glad you are OK!

 

[vectervp1]

Major bummer dude!

Its going to be pricey thats for sure. I'm willing to bet that your frame is fine. From the looks of it, both the front and rear subframes are toast, losts of plastic done, and of course the exhaust. I'm sure you'll find lots of other "little" things wrong with it, but I'd say totally salvageable! The subframes are going to be pricey though. Estimate $200 for the front one, and $450 for the rear. The exhaust you can either go aftermarket, or find someone willing to sell you a right side used can.... and it just so happens I have one sitting in my garage if your interested.... Body panels are going to run you around $800 for the whole left side. I think Skyway's estimate if $5k is a bit high, but it'll definately be over $2k.

 

[twowheelnut]

Major bummer dude!
Its going to be pricey thats for sure. I'm willing to bet that your frame is fine. From the looks of it, both the front and rear subframes are toast, losts of plastic done, and of course the exhaust. I'm sure you'll find lots of other "little" things wrong with it, but I'd say totally salvageable! The subframes are going to be pricey though. Estimate $200 for the front one, and $450 for the rear. The exhaust you can either go aftermarket, or find someone willing to sell you a right side used can.... and it just so happens I have one sitting in my garage if your interested.... Body panels are going to run you around $800 for the whole left side. I think Skyway's estimate if $5k is a bit high, but it'll definately be over $2k.

Aw, man! I was waiting on you to pull the skooter card! :lol:

 

[skyway]

Major bummer dude!
Its going to be pricey thats for sure. I'm willing to bet that your frame is fine. From the looks of it, both the front and rear subframes are toast, losts of plastic done, and of course the exhaust. I'm sure you'll find lots of other "little" things wrong with it, but I'd say totally salvageable! The subframes are going to be pricey though. Estimate $200 for the front one, and $450 for the rear. The exhaust you can either go aftermarket, or find someone willing to sell you a right side used can.... and it just so happens I have one sitting in my garage if your interested.... Body panels are going to run you around $800 for the whole left side. I think Skyway's estimate if $5k is a bit high, but it'll definately be over $2k.

Don't forget to add what also appears damaged. Instrument cluster, light assembly and surrounding plastic, windshield motor, W bracket, windshield, glove box, at least A+B panel's, any labor paid to a shop for their time?

Maybe not all the way to 5K, but it won't be far off if you purchased all parts from Gary McCoy.

There's certainly things that can be left alone and will be slightly tweaked to the trained eye, but I'm talking good as new.

 

[skyway]

Aw, man! I was waiting on you to pull the skooter card! :lol:

He'll probably be along shortly to chime in. I've been getting updates on repairs from him along with a couple of pieces that needed a little straightening out (gentle persuasion). It seems like the harder you look, the more you can spot thats just a little bit out of place.

Here's a few part prices that will be needed. They are fresh today from UM via the skoot. There's $715.58 to begin with.

[SIZE=10pt]5VS-28356-00-00, Stay 1 $166.44 Front subframe[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]5JW-21190-00-00, Rear Frame Comp. $406.86 Rear subframe[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10pt]5VS-84300-20-00, Head[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]li[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]ght Assy. $142.28 Whole thing including bulbs[/SIZE]

 

[vectervp1]

apparently frame sliders don't work on mud and grass.

Actually they did their job. Frame sliders are designed to save your frame from damage in an accident, not your plastic. Alot of the time, frame sliders will save your plastic, but they are really there to make sure you can still ride your bike home.

Here are a few more part numbers to get your started...

5JW-21651-00-P3 COVER, REAR FENDER

5VS-Y283J-30-P0 BODY, FRONT LOWER 1

5VS-2835G-00-P0 BODY, FRONT UPPER 1

5JW-28351-01-P3 BODY, COWLING

5JW-26280-00-00 REAR VIEW MIRROR A

5JW-8353E-01-00 CASE, METER UPPER

Aw, man! I was waiting on you to pull the skooter card! :lol:

Nah, I'm leaving that dead horse alone for a little while.... I'll pick on him later.... maybe tomorrow, or later tonight.

Besides, SkooterG has probably spent enough money on rebuilding Flipper that he could have bought another FJR.... oh wait... he did!

Damn, looks like I'm not waiting that long after all!

 

[Scab]

Dang. Sorry dude.

But, welcome to the club. Me and Odot have meetings every third Thursday. BYOB.

 

[Toecutter]

Yeah, these things, being high performance machines, go like hell and stop great, but they don't bounce very well. Lots of little damaged bits, but you won't have a good idea of how cheaply you can get it fixed until you get an "Odot estimate".

Is that gonna get me bad karma?

 

[Scab]

Oh, yeah, Toe. Between that and the tang bag fiasco, it can't be good.

 

[Mike-H]

Dang. Sorry dude.
But, welcome to the club. Me and Odot have meetings every third Thursday. BYOB.

Ya they both meet where they can park their respective bikes against trees :lol: ....

 

[Scab]

Dang. Sorry dude.
But, welcome to the club. Me and Odot have meetings every third Thursday. BYOB.

Ya they both meet where they can park their respective bikes against trees :lol: ....

Same tree. Different sides.

 

[Mike-H]

Dang. Sorry dude.
But, welcome to the club. Me and Odot have meetings every third Thursday. BYOB.

Ya they both meet where they can park their respective bikes against trees :lol: ....

Same tree. Different sides.

:good: .....

 

[TruWrecks]

Damn. That really sucks for the bike, but it's great you're intact.

Lessons learned from wrecking my Busa:

Pull ALL the body work off and inspect everything very carefully.

Make sure all of the motor to frame mounts are not cracked or tweeked.

Pull the rear sub-frame off. If the mount points don't line up correctly, it's bent. The amount it's bent will tell you if you need a replacement.

Pull the front sub-frame from the bike. Check the same way as the rear.

Check all the welds in the frame for cracked paint. That will be an indicator of a bent part.

The rear swing-arm is pretty tough. It's probably fine. It would be good to check it anyway. The pivot bolt mounts would be a good place to check for damage. Since the FJR has a shaft drive, you'll want to check the gap between the wheel and the drive hub in front and rear. If the gap is the same, and the pivots are in great shape, the swing-arm should be straight.

If all the frame pieces are good the rest will be mainly cosmetic.

 

[SkooterG]

Dayem! I know you all try to emulate me and ****, but when it comes to crashing.........DON'T BE LIKE SKOOTERG!!!!!

First of all, the important thing is that you are still with us, and relatively unscathed from what it appears. That's the important ****. As for your poor FJR, I feel your f***ing pain. All too well my friend.

Unfortunately, you have waaay more than cosmetic damage. I'll get to that later.

Comments on some of the other posts I have read in this thread:

- 03 forks are not interchangeable with 04 forks as caliper mounting positions are different. 03 fender will fit, but as was pointed out, it's not the same color.

- Like many said, tear that sucker apart. You WILL find more broken stuff you were not aware of/anticipating.

- Sliders can hurt you in soft stuff. In my playa crash, the slider doug in, actually broke the mounting bracket, and slid forward breaking the plastic fairing. I will provide piccies at a later date. There must have been a hell of a lot of force being transmitted through that thing. -Shudder-

- Waves you see in the rear subframe are normal. Freaked me out too the first time I crashed my FJR.

- As for repair costs, everybody is right kinda.

If you were to have a dealer do a repair estimate with labor included, you're looking at $4,000+ damage in my not so humble opinion. BTDT. It might come out less, but not much. Now, if you do the work yourself and order parts through a discount supplier like University Motors, the actual repair cost will be much less. Probably around half.

From what I can see, you definitely need new front and rear subframes. The skewered rear end is cause your rear subframe is bent. Since I wasn't there, and don't know exactly how the FJR bounced I can't say for sure, but the swingarm is a tough hombre so I doubt it's bent. Also, like skiwi ******ed on about, most of the crap in the nose will need to be replaced. Replacing the front subframe is going to be a major PITA.

Dude, what a freaking bummer. I am slowly repairing my FJR. Lots fubar'd on mine even though I rode it for 4,000 miles after the crash before I started repairs. Amazing the **** that gets tweaked every so slightly.

All I can say is I am feeling the love :wub: for our favorite ******, as I keep sending him **** to unbend. He also machined me up some GSG Moto slider bracket spacers that I was missing. Hell of a dude. Even if he is a ******. A class act. Now if only he would get off his arse and ride his FJR here so I can compare **** to an unbent FJR.

 

[madmike2]

Now if only he would get off his arse and ride his FJR here so I can compare **** to an unbent FJR.

What...you've used up all your "friend time" with people who are closer? Don't want to face the abuse? :dribble: Let's keep our favorite machinist busy in the workshop making neat things for us to buy! :yahoo:

 

[odot]

Well, I guess it's time the "Crash Club" started looking into a t-shirt business. Apparently, there are enough members to warrant sales. My rear subframe is tweaked, too....almost the same as yours....haven't got into tearing that down yet but I do have the whole front fairing off(glued back together with fastweld and ready for a paint job). Good thing you are ok....I wasn't as lucky.

 

[cougar8000]

Glad you are ok Keith. Bike is replaceable.