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Can anybody recommend a source to help me select a decent place to stay for a family ski vacation this coming February?

I know there's a lot of left coasters here who are familiar with the Tahoe area.

I'm not asking for particular places necessarily (although, that would be welcome) but just a good source for info and guidance. There is so much info available online and I can't easily differentiate the bull from the good stuff.

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks

Russ

 
i don't know about tahoe but my cousin's always go to steamboat springs in coloradoi don't know about tahoe but my cousin's always go to steamboat springs in colorado

 
Send me a PM about what you are looking for. 4 people...6 people? Incline Village...Squaw Valley or do you know. Condo or home? Hotel? I don't have a location for you except that you are from Boston so I don't know what you know about the area. BTW there is not **** for snow here yet. Let us all pray for rain.

 
i don't know about tahoe but my cousin's always go to steamboat springs in coloradoi don't know about tahoe but my cousin's always go to steamboat springs in colorado
They say when you get old, you tend to repeat yourself.... You tend to repeat yourself... You tend to repeat... Ummm :p

 
Can anybody recommend a source to help me select a decent place to stay for a family ski vacation this coming February?
My daughter and I stayed here this past summer for our vacation:

https://www.squawvalleylodge.com/html/lake-tahoe-lodging.asp

Really nice condos and very reasonably priced (at least when we were there)... full kitchen so you can save some $$ by cooking at "home"... also, have stayed at the Best Western Timber Cove Lodge (South shore) on a couple of road trips... very nice rooms, great views of the lake, and right on the beach... :)

 
I lived in Tahoe City for a lot of years (and in Steamboat Springs for 2 years, BTW), lived in South Lake Tahoe a couple years ago, live a little over an hour away from the north shore now, have skied nearly every resort in the region at least once, and the better ones several hundreds of days. I still have clients on both the north and south shores, and used to represent Squaw Valley Ski Corp. and Ski Lake Tahoe. I've skied since I was 1 1/2, my dad was a patrolman, I've skied many 100+ day years during my 20s, have had maybe 20 season's passes at Squaw, Alpine Meadows, Sugar Bowl, Kirkwood and Heavenly, and I still have a lot of friends in Tahoe. For the resorts at which I've had passes since 1974, I can even show you the powder stashes known to the locals, where it gets tracked out first, etc. It's not for nothing that I have the handle I do -- skiing has been a religion for me all my life, and you're talking about my back yard.

Send me a PM with a little more info about what you have in mind -- north or south shores, how many in the group, skiing abilities, planning on skiing a number of areas or focusing on one, high end or more moderate budget, etc. and I can tell you what you want to know.

 
Send me a PM with a little more info about what you have in mind -- north or south shores, how many in the group, skiing abilities, planning on skiing a number of areas or focusing on one, high end or more moderate budget, etc. and I can tell you what you want to know.
I think he wins... ;)

 
And pray for rain and snow...or you're going to be "rock" skiing and boulder jumping. :eek:

A couple of resorts are making snow right now. So far, Nature has not been kind.

 
Stay at the Ridge Tahoe ..at the top of the hill overlooking Tahoe and the Carson Valley..Nevada. A great place is Wallies in Genoa Nv...about 30 min from the lake , has a great set of hot pools!!!

Cary

 
Can anybody recommend a source to help me select a decent place to stay for a family ski vacation this coming February?

Yup, exskibum.

The only thing I can add is that with a family you'll want a condo or house. Here's a source I've always been happy with: VRBO

 
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i don't know about tahoe but my cousin's always go to steamboat springs in coloradoi don't know about tahoe but my cousin's always go to steamboat springs in colorado
They say when you get old, you tend to repeat yourself.... You tend to repeat yourself... You tend to repeat... Ummm :p

i was drunk, get off me :p

 
My daughter and I stayed here this past summer for our vacation:
https://www.squawvalleylodge.com/html/lake-tahoe-lodging.asp

Really nice condos and very reasonably priced (at least when we were there)... full kitchen so you can save some $$ by cooking at "home"... also, have stayed at the Best Western Timber Cove Lodge (South shore) on a couple of road trips... very nice rooms, great views of the lake, and right on the beach... :)
For me, the north shore is better than the south shore, summer or winter, and I definitely prefer Squaw as no. 1 and Alpine as no. 2 for skiing. I agree about the Squaw Valley Lodge (rehabbed my knee in their exercise facilities there in the summer of '88) -- right there at the lifts, nice enough, but I wouldn't expect their room rates to be as expensive as the Resort at Squaw Creek or as all the much newer stuff built in IntraWest's project (that for the uninitiated, takes up a part of what was the even larger parking lot). The kitchenettes would also be on my mandatory list.

If I were going to ski one mountain, it would be Squaw (second through fifth places in that poll are well back, except that Alpine (my no. 2) is the better mountain for powder days, since Squaw gets tracked out much faster). Squaw is also the most expensive, but the variety of trails, sheer size of it, huge selection of true double black diamond runs, and its excellent variety of non-skiing amenities (swimming pools, ice rinks, etc) and shopping and eating opportunities, make it the choice. February is high season, however, and it ain't cheap. OTOH, it is the total one mountain ski package. Word of caution, however, unless you stay in Squaw, then you better rise early to beat the traffic on Highway 89 between Tahoe City and Squaw or Alpine, and to a little lesser extent between Truckee and those two mountains if you stay over there.

If I were going to ski two mountains, I'd stay at Squaw, ski it mostly, and get in one day over at Alpine Meadows.

Northstar is known as Flatstar to locals, is over-run by Bay Area acolytes in a hurry to get there (and hurried while there) so the runs are unchallenging, except by their crowded nature. I just don't enjoy the social aspect or the skiing there. Heavenly, Kirkwood and Sierra at Tahoe are almost too far from the north shore to make it convenient to do a full lake sampling -- can be done, but easier for 2 or 3 guys staying at the Lake with that intent than trying to get a family out of the house early enough to avoid the awful traffic congestion that anything other than a very early start will engender.

Heavenly probably has the best view of all the mountains -- its view of the Lake is spectacular, and looking out at Nevada from the other side isn't bad. The Nevada side of it is really the better skiing. If you go up the California side and the wind is blowing, you may not be able to get over to the Nevada side due to a wind hold on the lift you need to take. The California side tram and the gondola can also get shut down in wind. The result can be all day lift lines on the Calif. side. Pretty unchallenging mountain, IMO, except for the Motts and Killebrew Canyon areas and a couple bump runs on the Nevada side and the Gunbarrel part of the California side (some other stuff exists, but you can get lost if you don't know the mountain and what to expect in those places).

Kirkwood is 30 miles southwest of South Lake Tahoe, so it's the most remote from the Lake. I really like the mountain, and the Wall is one of my favorite runs anywhere. Problem is that it doesn't have a lot of vertical, so after a great top section, you have a flat lower part of the runs and are back on the lifts quickly. Still, lots of fun stuff to explore. Best thing to recommend it is that it is surely the best bang for the buck on a full season pass, and it gets lots of snow.

Sugar Bowl is closer to me, so I've had a few passes there. Second ski resort in the west (a year or two after Sun Valley, ID). But like Kirkwood, the vertical isn't huge, and though it has good steeps and some good runs, they are somewhat short by Sierra standards, and certainly by Rockies standards.

Just agbout the only mountain I haven't skied is Diamond Peak in Incline, but it doesn't have much challenge, and gets the lowest snowfall, while being the first to melt off in the area. Mount Rose is good, with some short but great challenging terrain finally accessible in the chutes.

Homewood is on the west shore, beautiful views of the Lake, like Heavenly's only on a much smaller scale. It's pretty tame, but a fun and relatively inexpensive family place.

Long and short of it is that if I were coming across the country to ski and get the most out of a vacation without the aggravation, here's what I'd do -- stay at Squaw, ski 4 or 5 days there, and take one day to go over to Alpine Meadows. The Squaw Valley Lodge (or someplace with a kitchenette) would be my likely base, so that after stocking up for the week, I wouldn't have to leave the valley and fight traffic except for one foray one canyon over at Alpine Meadows, and I'd go early that day (7:00 - 7:30) to eat breakfast there and hang out while the parking lot fills and the lifts get ready to open.

I wouldn't bother with Diamond Peak and probably wouldn't go to Mt. Rose -- too far from other stuff (though not a bad choice if staying in Reno) for the amount of variety it offers. I'm not a big fan of urban South Lake Tahoe, so Heavenly wouldn't be on my list for that kind of vacation. If I did do that -- heed the above suggestion of the Ridge or another lodging facility on the Nevada side right on the mountain. If you're into gambling (I'm not), Heavenly is more attractive, since South Lake Tahoe/Stateline is the venue to go to for that. And if that's important to you, consider staying in the expensive accommodations at the base of the gondola just over the state line in Stateline (Vail Resorts owns most of that).

Quiet and cheaper with little night life and further away -- Kirkwood for some great snow, good fun and a quiet place to saw logs at night before getting up to do it over again. If you rent a house in Alpine Meadows (almost no real lodging facilities) is a better way to do that, since I'd put Alpine higher on the good mountains list -- but you will probably have a short drive from the house to the parking lot.

You can stay in Tahoe City or Truckee and drive, but again, beware the traffic if you don't get out early, and also heading home at teh end of the day. You can stay in South Lake Tahoe and drive, too, but again -- to me the Heavenly traffic and parking hassles would take away from the vacation. From South Lake Tahoe you can ski Heavenly, Sierra Tahoe and Kirkwood if you're into driving to them, and it isn't usually too bad to get to and parked at Sierrra Tahoe or Kirkwood, but you are talking about February, so again, go early, especially on a weekend day and double especially if you're talking President's weekend or week -- that is crazy all over the area.

If you want more, let me know. As to lodging guides, it'd be easier to narrow it down if you pick the resort and part of Tahoe you think you want to stay in.

HTH some,

Rich

 
TRAFFIC!! Take notes on Rich's advice. Pull up your maps program and look at the roads and distances.

.....Over 1/2 the roads around the lake are 2 lanes......

Yes, Hwy 89 from Truckee toward Lake Tahoe (& Squaw) starts as 4 lanes for about 2 miles. Hwy 89 from Tahoe City (North shore) South is 2 lanes for 30 miles. Hwy 28 from Tahoe City North is 4 lanes through the commercial/populated area but soon after Tahoe Vista (Mount Rose Hwy) it becomes 2 lanes again for 15 miles (?) until it meets Hwy 50 heading South toward Stateline.

Think snow and ice, lots of cars, 2 lane roads, bad tempers, inexperienced Winter-weather drivers. Eeewwwww!!

We don't even ride our motorcycles up there "in season" during the Summer.

My daughter and son-in-law come up here and "hit the slopes", usually with a group of their friends from Fresno. They like Kirkwood and Heavenly BUT she snowboards...he skis. And their snowsport friends are a mixture of talents, as well.

[SIZE=8pt]Eye hasn't bin ther fer yeers. En them dayz, mah eye-dee-ar of Winter sports wuz tuh set en thuh lodge by thuh far-place en watch while sippin' onna hot-buttered-rum, Whoooeeee!! [/SIZE]

 
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FWIW Kirkwood is my favorite but it's a ***** to do day trips there from the Sacramento area. But they do have some pretty good deals on multi-day family packages with lodging. And they almost always have more snow than anybody else. I bought season passes for several years at Sierra at Tahoe which were good at Northstar as well and I couldn't agree more with exskibums opinion of "flatstar". But it is a well developed resort with good bars and resturants and if you're all beginners flatter is better. Where ever you go you'll do better mid week for price and crowds.

 
Adding to what Mike said -- this is a much larger area than it might look on the map. There are a lot of ski areas in the "Tahoe Area", but Mike's right about the nature of the roads, adn especially about our drivers -- most of our flatlanders do not know how to drive in the snow. On top of that, Hwy 89 between north and shouth shores, while having spectacular views of Emerald Bay, gets closed in winter with some frequency. If it snows, there's a high probability that avalanches will cause its closure, sometimes for days. The east shore route is windy, not usually prone to avalanche, but a headache to drive in the winter when it's the only way between north and south shores. And noting that I was on the TMA steering committee for the Tahoe City/Truckee/Kings Beach area, I can reliably assure you that if you're traveling along Hwy 28 between Incline and Tahoe City as a part of your planned route to and from the mountain, you have certainly added a substantial amount of delay and aggravation to your ski commute, even before you hit the gridlock on 89 between Tahoe City and Squaw.

And evil -- I HEAR you about Kirkwood from Sacto -- even worse from Auburn, which pisses me off, since it was either $299 for a slightly restricted pass again this year (or $339), offering almost exactly the same access as Sugar Bowl was on their slightly restricted (but at $529 before Halloween)!! First year without a pass for me in a while -- but may have access to some comp tickets at a few different mountains this year. Sugar Bowl needs to do something about getting a ski train connection from Sacto and Colfax to their doorstep! I'd pay their $529 and be riding the train every weekend if that was available.

 
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Holy Cow!

Thanks everyone- I am most grateful for the most excellent replies. And humbled. This forum is a great place. I keep sayin'

Rich,

I have been to Squaw, Alpine Meadows, and Kirkwood, albeit 25+ years ago. Before family and middle age. My memory is that my skiing preference is in the order listed above. Glad to see that aligns with your recommendations. I cannot remember nightlife/accommodations from that long ago. Apparently the skiing is still most important to me.

We stayed in a rented house in South Lake Tahoe. Nothing special- easy drive to casinos as I recall which was good for some of our 20 sumpthin crowd.

This time I'm more interested in the skiing and mountain ammenities. My bride and I have made several trips 'out west' over the years, mostly before kids. We love the Salt Lake City/Park City area, Vail/Keystone/Beaver Creek area and Steamboat too. We took the kids to Steamboat for a week 6 years ago for their first taste of Western Skiing. They loved it. They've both been on skis since age 3. The youngest actually 'skied' afew runs inutero. They're both in high school now.

Its good to hear that Squaw still is a preferred destination. Your advice sounds spot on. I'll be checking out Squaw area info. I hope you don't mind a few PM's for details.

Pray for snow everyone.

Thanks,

Russ

 
I have been to Squaw, Alpine Meadows, and Kirkwood, albeit 25+ years ago.
Pray for snow everyone.

Thanks,

Russ
Russ, 25 years ago and imagine.....the roads haven't changed much! Hwy 89 from Truckee is now a 4 lane under 4-6 lane divided I-80. There are more stores and eateries in Truckee. North Shore hasn't changed much and is still a motorcycle destination for lunch in the Spring or Fall. There is some really good food in Tahoe City, but Rich is more familiar with "names".

Uhm....e are praying for snow. We are in desperate need of water next year.

 
Russ, 25 years ago and imagine.....the roads haven't changed much! Hwy 89 from Truckee is now a 4 lane under 4-6 lane divided I-80.
When I was on the TMA steering committee (14 -15 years ago now), we were trying to get CalTrans to widen the shoulders on 89 so that we could cone it off into 3 lanes for morning and afternoon ski traffic with 2 lanes in the required direction. Problem was that CalTrans was wise to that ruse, and it appears there are different colors of money in their parlance. One color for increased capacity and another for maintenance and safety work, like shoulders might be considered. They decided we were trying to increase capacity, that they didn't have that color money in the budget, and wouldn't go along with our suggested shoulder maintenance. Still, they have made considerable improvements to some of the worst sections over time and widened it some. Unfortunately, that still doesn't cure the bottlenecks you hit at Squaw Valley and Alpine Meadows roads, where the traffic backs up on the way into the parking lots. Not a fun drive if you're a half hour later than you needed to be to miss it.

And there is the number one reason I've been buying seasons passes to Sugar Bowl while living in Auburn -- the older I get, the tougher it is to get out of bed early enough on a weekend to avoid the Hwy 89 traffic to Squaw. (Number two reason is that until this year's increase, the Sugar Bowl pass has been cheap enough to make it the easy choice over the much more expensive Squaw pass and the not quite as much more expensive Alpine pass.) It was a different matter when I lived 8 miles away.

 
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exskibum...(slight thread hijack)

Are there any resorts in the Lake Tahoe area that snowboarders should avoid (e.g., long, flat traverses between lifts or peaks)? I might have have a mixed crowd. FWIW, Steamboat Springs and Jackson Hole can be bad for the less than expert snowboarder.

boardsNbikes

 
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