SacramentoMike
Not Safe For Work
So much information and so many opinions here, I just have to add some more, especially since what's here is extremely confusing, often contradictory, and sometimes just wrong. Simplest way to say it, if it wasn't the best way to ride, at least as far as current best thinking is concerned, why would ALL the top riders be doing it?
per Uncle Hud:
Parks' course, and his book, are titled Total Control--High Performance Street Riding Techniques (emphasis added). It's all about the technique, which he teaches you should use all the time, whatever kind of roads or riding. It's written for the street rider because everybody should be doing it. The second step, by the way, is "Pre-Position Body". As part of this step, Parks says, "The important rule here is to keep the centerline of your upper body to the inside of your bike's centerline." My emphasis again. Best illustration of this is Russperry's first pic above, but it's not necessary for you to do it the way Marc Marquez is doing it in the picture.
To illustrate that, just one more quote from Parks: ". . . on the other hand, if you are riding a cruiser or tourer and don't want to radically hang off the bike, simply do the minimum necessary to follow the rules (he means his Ten Steps), and you will significantly improve your ability to control the bike."
I took his course, and ever since, I apply his ten rules for cornering pretty much every single time I go around a curve--usually just that "mininum necessary," but always at least that minimum. It's good practice, and becomes natural fast. And by the way, I'll add a strong recommendation to see when this course is offered near you, and also to buy the book. $20 here, on Amazon.
per Uncle Hud:
I agree with everything Hud said, but I'll add one thing from Lee Parks' "Total Control" class, step ONE of his Ten Steps to Proper Cornering: "Reposition Foot" pull your inside foot back as you approach a turn so only the ball of your foot is on the peg. Awful things can happen to your foot, or all the rest of you, if that gets caught hanging under the peg, or even if the road kicks your foot back off the peg.In brief, I was taught that when you take a left-hand corner,
1) you hang your left butt cheek off the bike -- that is, right butt cheek and thigh on the seat,
2) reach your chin towards your left grip while deeply bending the left elbow and wrist, and
3) keep your head as vertical as possible while looking at the exit point of the corner.
Item one moves your lower body towards the inside of the curve, item two moves your torso and head towards the inside of the curve, and item three ensures you're looking ahead for debris/potholes/obstacles on your intended line of travel. The deep elbow/wrist bend avoids throttle faux pas and keeps your fingers ready for lever duty. All together, they drastically reduce your lean angle.
Parks' course, and his book, are titled Total Control--High Performance Street Riding Techniques (emphasis added). It's all about the technique, which he teaches you should use all the time, whatever kind of roads or riding. It's written for the street rider because everybody should be doing it. The second step, by the way, is "Pre-Position Body". As part of this step, Parks says, "The important rule here is to keep the centerline of your upper body to the inside of your bike's centerline." My emphasis again. Best illustration of this is Russperry's first pic above, but it's not necessary for you to do it the way Marc Marquez is doing it in the picture.
To illustrate that, just one more quote from Parks: ". . . on the other hand, if you are riding a cruiser or tourer and don't want to radically hang off the bike, simply do the minimum necessary to follow the rules (he means his Ten Steps), and you will significantly improve your ability to control the bike."
I took his course, and ever since, I apply his ten rules for cornering pretty much every single time I go around a curve--usually just that "mininum necessary," but always at least that minimum. It's good practice, and becomes natural fast. And by the way, I'll add a strong recommendation to see when this course is offered near you, and also to buy the book. $20 here, on Amazon.
Don't agree with any of that, except the last sentence. If it's useful, why not make it a habit? Makes it a lot easier to "extract that last bit of cornering performance" when you really need it. How else will you be able to do it then, if it isn't natural to you?At sane street speeds, hanging off the bike is simply not required and not necessary. It is really for extracting that last bit of cornering performance. Any of the old school racers before the hang off revolution would ride rings around anyone here on any bike while sitting straight up in the saddle. That said, a bit of weight transfer towards the inside of the turn is useful in getting this heavy pig to handle.