M/C head on w/another M/C

[FJamR]

More than ouch...

 

[jdog109socal]

wooow can you say SQUIDS... bummer for the other guy..

JD

 

[Kevin Daly]

wooow can you say SQUIDS... bummer for the other guy..
JD

That is what you call a bite!

So i guess the lesson here is dont pass on the outside of a righthand corner in heavy traffic on a wet road, especially when there is an imediate upcomming left that does not allow you to actually see the oncomming traffic?

I dont know it was hard to see what this guys mistake was. hope the other guy wasnt killed or otherwise permanently mamed.

 

[madmike2]

I dont know it was hard to see what this guys mistake was.

D'ya think? What an squidly :******: rider!

Riding "over his head"?

Too fast for conditions?

Passing over a solid white line?

For 2 corners he has chosen the wrong line?

Trying to keep up with his buddy/first rider?

Focused on following the front rider?

Thinking his right wrist would compensate for other deficiencies?

Fixated on the approaching bike and steered into him/her?

And that's just a start.... Pity the poor other rider, the actual victim, out for a nice ride. It wouldn't surprise me if they were both D.O.A., for what, exactly? And those types don't only exist elsewhere, they are on our roads, as well. BTDT, only I escaped with a totalled FJR but kept my life.

 

[Kevin Daly]

Yeah,

Actually, i was wondering what happened after he passed the first oncomming bike and started to go wide. I think he locked up the back tire as he dove into the corner, the bike stood up and wobbled, he went outside, i dont think he had time to process the second bike, i could be wrong.

 

[madmike2]

I dont know it was hard to see what this guys mistake was.

D'ya think? What an :******: !

Um... that was scarcasm :blink: Maybe the :******: was in reference to the idiot rider??

Absolutely! I'd never even think that about a fellow discerning, gentlemanly FJR owner and Forum member. Since there was a misunderstanding I will correct my original post.

 

[Kevin Daly]

Well... I dont know if I can be classified as "gentlemanly"

crap now i have to edit out my posts

 

[madmike2]

Too late...I "quoted" them!

From the "squiggle" once the camera sights the second bike, it looks to me as if he fixated on THAT bike rather than looking for an excape route. I've been wrong before, and from the results, the point is rather moot.

Track speeds and apexes on the street: Ungood to the Extreme! This was no "accident", it was an incident.

 

[Bustanut joker]

Darwin would be proud <_< of the squid. Too bad he took out an innocent rider

:jester:

 

[Toecutter]

And since you can't control the antics of, and never want to tangle with, an oncoming vehicle, please visit the applicable link in my sig line for a safety sermon.

Giving them all the room I can afford is the best way to minimize my risk of that happening to me. To bad the innocent victim of this dipshit wasn't farther right, or in a cage, but he took one to ensure this guy won't do that again.

Sad. And disturbing to watch. A real reminder. They should consider prosecuting the lead bike rider as well, for accessory to vehicular manslaughter or felony reckless driving, based on the video evidence.

 

[Murph]

What a marooooooooon! It stinks that, not only do we have to be paranoid about the cagers and road debris, but we have to look out for nitwits among our own too. I like Madmike's laundry list of what that guy did wrong but let me add another ... he shouldn't have been on a bike in the first place. This is why I'm all for people having to earn licenses to procreate, breathe, etc!!

 

[ponyfool]

I think everyone here agrees that the innocent on the on-coming motorcycle didn't do anything to deserve what was thrust upon him by the selfish ******* with a video camera.

Ironic then how people say that traffic enforcement is only about revenue.

 

[madmike2]

I think everyone here agrees that the innocent on the on-coming motorcycle didn't do anything to deserve what was thrust upon him by the selfish ******* with a video camera.
Ironic then how people say that traffic enforcement is only about revenue.

I don't know how many of those posting here have taken that position or have posted to that end. Even you would admit that some enforcement is about revenue. Realistically, breaking a speed law by 5 mph while riding with other traffic (or 10 mph on CA freeways) and being singled out (not in every case, but you know that happens) is one thing; Acting completely irresponsibly, wrecklessly and out of control is another, as this rider was. And yes, I know the letter of the law IS the law, but selective prosecution isn't irony, and that is what causes me to respond when I do. In my mind driving 5 or 10 mph over (I'm thingking 50 or 55 on a posted 45 mph 2-lane, wide shouldered) on an isolated stretch of road where visibility is not hindered by blind corners or elevation changes and the road surface and weather are good isn't the same as 5 mph over on city streets or residential neighborhoods where the variables are infinite and the escape possibilites are extremely limited, but my opinion is certainly not the same as a traffic officer's interpretation of his duty. Of course, he has no idea what my background is, what abilities or common sense I might have.

OTH, when one considers how many people are crashing on some roadways (like the Dragon where they are posted and published by Killboy) one begins to wonder what will take for riders to begin to act responsibly. I find that I am leaning more and more toward the "touring" end of riding.

 

[ponyfool]

You're right Mike, just having a not so hot Father's Day.....sorry for the rant.

In complete agreement with your second paragraph.

I guess after having my wife rear ended yesterday in our less than year old Wagon Queen Family Truckster by a person who was tailgating, suspended and with no insurance and decides to flee after giving her his info before the cops come make me a bit more sensitive to the idea that I'm beginning to think it is more common NOT to be responsible than it is to be.

 

[FJR1300Mark]

You're right Mike, just having a not so hot Father's Day.....sorry for the rant.
In complete agreement with your second paragraph.

I guess after having my wife rear ended yesterday in our less than year old Wagon Queen Family Truckster by a person who was tailgating, suspended and with no insurance and decides to flee after giving her his info before the cops come make me a bit more sensitive to the idea that I'm beginning to think it is more common NOT to be responsible than it is to be.

I just got back from a great fathers day with my daughter and then I had to go for a mc ride tonight. Then I saw this video and your post. I bought a new car and had it three days when I was rearended at a stop light. Thank God it was in my car and not my new FJR.

To quote Honda on this one Stupid Hurts but it also impacted the innocent on this one.

 

[madmike2]

Apology accepted and understood. BTDT...only the miscreant broadsided and totalled the Toyota coupe my two daughters were in. Luckily he was caught (actually restrained by witnesses because his car was disabled). Still, no insurance, expired plate on his car, etc. The same issue arose when my best friend was killed on his Goldwing 4 years ago. Hit and run, no insurance...you know the drill.

Sorry it happened to you and I hope nobody in your family was injured (and yes, we were fortunate that the girls had their seatbelts on and were safely restrained). We are forced to carry uninsured/underinsured coverage because of the rampant number of "those" kinds of people. In effect, we are self-insured, but the state governments won't enact that type of legislation.