Medic Alert

[kaitsdad]

OK - I did the search, found lots of references to medical information, medic alert, etc., etc.

BUT -

No where am I able to find a list of the information that should be part of your medical/contact information.

Perhaps those of you in the medical field - EMS, Nurses, Doctors, LEO's, Firefighters, etc. could add to this - what would you like to see?

I'll take a stab at it - please add to the list -

Some of it's obvious -

Name

home address

contact information - name, relationship, contact numbers.

Medical insurance information - company, policy #, phone numbers

ALERGIES LISTED if any.

Medical conditions listed, if any.

Medications listed (if any) dosage, etc.

Pacemaker?

Heart Valve?

Donor - yes/no

Basic statement - 'no extreme measures to be taken' or 'plug me in, I want to live as a vegetable'

oh yeah - blood type

list blood borne pathogens - HIV, HepC - this to protect the EMS folks - ?

 

[GalaxyBlue]

I believe you got the basics covered...

I know a few guys who have this info taped to the side of their helmets inside of a little pouch. I think every rider should have the basic info stated above for WHEN you go down, Not IF.

My $.02 added...

 

[evilmedic13]

OK - I did the search, found lots of references to medical information, medic alert, etc., etc.
BUT -

No where am I able to find a list of the information that should be part of your medical/contact information.

Perhaps those of you in the medical field - EMS, Nurses, Doctors, LEO's, Firefighters, etc. could add to this - what would you like to see?

I'll take a stab at it - please add to the list -

Some of it's obvious -

Name

home address

contact information - name, relationship, contact numbers.

Medical insurance information - company, policy #, phone numbers

ALERGIES LISTED if any.

Medical conditions listed, if any.

Medications listed (if any) dosage, etc.

Pacemaker?

Heart Valve?

Donor - yes/no

Basic statement - 'no extreme measures to be taken' or 'plug me in, I want to live as a vegetable'

oh yeah - blood type

list blood borne pathogens - HIV, HepC - this to protect the EMS folks - ?

The HIV/HEP C as well as pacemaker, etc is part of med condtions, just so you know. I hate it when people list asthma, DM etc and then tell me AFTER I ask if there is any HIV etc and they say yes as if it's not a disease :angry2:

Do NOT list your ins anywhere someone can get a hold of it. When the bill comes or you come to it'll still be there t cover what it will. If someone gets a hold of it there are ways to access info that is very personal(ss# home address). You don't want anybody knowing your address for one main reason, they may not be med personnel and now know you're not home, the rest you can figure out. There are some scumbags here that read obits and rob the deceased persons house at the time of the funeral!

Donor might be good, but isn't that carried on your states DL? In IL it is.

How about D.O.B?

As far as"basic statement" unless you have the document for DNR orders present and valid(yes valid) it won't do you any good. As much as we'd love to honor your request, your family will sue our ***** off and we will possibly lose our licenses for neglect, I might feel bad for you but not bad enough to lose my job for it.

Out here for the most part, they will match and cross type your blood anyway, sometimes things are wrong on those things. Also, it takes about 3 mins to do, meanwhile they're still assessing you.Usually when I see a med alert it has

Name........DOB...........Allergies............meds..............med conditions..........and a few have DR names. The DR name might be handy for contact info, ins etc.

Just my .02, I've also been away for awhile waiting for this ear to heal so some stuff has slipped from memory. Just stick w/ the KISS principle and you'll be "golden".

 

[evilmedic13]

I believe you got the basics covered...
I know a few guys who have this info taped to the side of their helmets inside of a little pouch. I think every rider should have the basic info stated above for WHEN you go down, Not IF.

My $.02 added...

Also, leave it where we can see it! If hat helmet's off your head for some reason or I have to take it off for some reason, I'm not worrying about the helmet. Besides, if it's a bloody mess, I'm not even gonna touch it cuz I don't have time(nor do you) to clean it and read it. I don't mean to be brusque,it's just thatin the worst case scenario it's brutal. There's a lot for us to figure out(tx wise) and a lot going on usually , and we realy don't want to spend anymore time at the scene than we need to, your life depends on it.

Then again, if it's minor(non-life threatening) and you're in a lot of pain and can't answer questions I may seek this info if it's close by because 1)I may dope you up for pain management purposes 2) You're in too much distress to answer alot of q's.

I'll usually keep it to a minimum if you're that bad.

 

[twowheelnut]

I keep this in my billfold:

"If found dead or dying, just push my ass off into the gutter. Part out the bike on eBay and send the proceeds to the Widow 'Nut. You'll most likely find her lounging by the pool with the cabana boy Enrique, sipping a Pina Colada at the Hoity Toity Beach Inn and Insurance Payoff Resort, St. Lucia, The Caribbean."

:blink:

All kidding aside, doesn't Barabus have it on his helmet along with 'Don't Remove Helmet'?

 

[wpbfjr]

in my experience as a street medic for 20 years:

if you went down on a motorcycle, then chances are 99% you are a trauma patient....

i'll know in a few seconds if you have a heart rate and resperations... if no heart rate, i'll know in a few seconds if you have a pacemaker when i expose your chest to begin CPR and i see the pacer and surgery site on your chest, or i'll see the electrial pacer spikes when i connect you to a heart monitor/defibilator...

throat/esphogus cancer? i'll know when i have a difficult time intubating you per protocol because you are unconsious/unresponsive...

diabetic? checking your blood sugar is protocol and is done at the same time intravenous fluids are started...

in fla, if you really want to be DNR, then wear a medic alert bracelet, and have the state required original yellow copy of the state approved dnr form...

a place to consider storing the paperwork if not on your person/helmet is the inside lid of your saddle bag... fedex has waterproof/ziplock type shipping label pouches that will adhear to the shape of the lid... most likley the saddle bag will be burst open in the type of accident you are unable to communicate from...

oh, in south florida, if you code secondary to trauma, we'll not work you per protocol... the trauma codes survival rate is something like .01%...

the things you listed are very important, but only to the hospital if you've survived the golden hour of trauma...

dana

p.s. if twn goes, dibs on mrs twn, i dig wealthy women that are way smarter than i'll ever be... fact... :blink: :blink: did i mention my real name? Enrique :rofl:

 

[GunMD]

I have a card that I got from a template on this web site.

Look for the link that says "ICE Card DIY Template".

I modified it and keep in in the clear "ID" pocket on my Icon reflective safety vest.

 

[wheatonFJR]

...so a wallet is not the place to keep your info?

 

[kaitsdad]

Thanks for the information, everyone - I've now modified what I carry.

And my wife keeps talking about 'Sven, the pool boy'...... :blink:

Should I be worried?

 

[RenoJohn]

kathy is a nurse supervisor including trauma at our local big hospital and she insists that I carry a card. She says basic info:

-Name

-Person(s) and number(s) to contact in emergency

-Known drug alergies

i've put more on my card(S!) which are printed in bright colors, laminated, and in my wallet and in my tank bag. The wallet is the critical one. I also tell my riding buddies (when not solo) where that I have emergency cards and where they are.

When you get dragged into the hospital, the first thing they dig for is your wallet .....they rifle through it to find out who the hell you are. If you don't have one, or there is not data it *CAN* cause delays. Kathy spends a lot of time with the police asking them to to back to the accident, trace the VIN # blah blah blah ....if the person had just basic info it would save a ton of time. Remember, the quicker they can do what they need to do, the quicker they can tend to you and your issues.

At the bottom of my card it says:

"Please take good care of me ...Kathy and my family love me" LOL LOL

Sidenote: During LEO encounters i've seen officers take notice of the bright card through the plastic on my tank bag. I don't think it hurts ..it shows some responsibility.

 

[turbodave_98]

On the advice of my dear wife, I wear always a MEDICAL ALERT bracelet on my right wrist. It gives name, current medical major problem(abdominal aneurysm), allergic to xxxx, and emergency contact person and number.

 

[evilmedic13]

...so a wallet is not the place to keep your info?

It's a good place to keep it, the hospital will find it very useful. The Medics won't, too busy tearing everything off to make sure everything is where it should be and treating it to lok thru it. Also, by me the furthest trauma center is 12mins away...9 if I'm driving so, time is on our side to get it done quickly.

 

[BobbyBlue]

As I have lived through 9 MI's, 5 bypasses, have an BV/ICD pacer and CHF, all at 42!!!, I wear a medic alert bracelet with name, blood type, current implant, and heart failure. I dont mention that I have no insurance or am on disability on advice of my attorney ! I do know that when it aint yer time it wont matter ! I think I'm gonna change my name to Enrique...

Bobby

 

[MsLilly]

I worked in an ER for 10 years and it was my job to try to find out who our patients were if they were unable to talk. If you have your information in your wallet, that is usually the first place we start. I have actually had people come in the ER that had NOTHING on them!! I went thru every pocket in every piece of clothing, even looked in shoes on one guy...nothing. We never did get an id on the guy and he didn't live. Always carry something on your body!! Maybe a tatto would be good!

 

[spike13]

in my experience as a street medic for 20 years:
if you went down on a motorcycle, then chances are 99% you are a trauma patient....

i'll know in a few seconds if you have a heart rate and resperations... if no heart rate, i'll know in a few seconds if you have a pacemaker when i expose your chest to begin CPR and i see the pacer and surgery site on your chest, or i'll see the electrial pacer spikes when i connect you to a heart monitor/defibilator...

throat/esphogus cancer? i'll know when i have a difficult time intubating you per protocol because you are unconsious/unresponsive...

diabetic? checking your blood sugar is protocol and is done at the same time intravenous fluids are started...

in fla, if you really want to be DNR, then wear a medic alert bracelet, and have the state required original yellow copy of the state approved dnr form...

a place to consider storing the paperwork if not on your person/helmet is the inside lid of your saddle bag... fedex has waterproof/ziplock type shipping label pouches that will adhear to the shape of the lid... most likley the saddle bag will be burst open in the type of accident you are unable to communicate from...

oh, in south florida, if you code secondary to trauma, we'll not work you per protocol... the trauma codes survival rate is something like .01%...

the things you listed are very important, but only to the hospital if you've survived the golden hour of trauma...

dana

p.s. if twn goes, dibs on mrs twn, i dig wealthy women that are way smarter than i'll ever be... fact... :blink: :blink: did i mention my real name? Enrique :rofl:

The protocol may be different depending on where you live............... I am a diabetic and was involved in an automobile accident a year ago on Easter Sunday. I had a problem with my blood sugar and passed out while driving on I-70. I hit an abandoned car on the side of the interstate. I had a medic alert bracelet on my key chain. No one knew that I was diabetic and in insulin shock until a Deputy arrived at my house and woke my wife up. At that point it had been several hours since the accident. Everyone assumed that I was drunk or intoxicated. I now have a medic alert necklace and have and ICE card in my wallet.

A few pics of the truck that I was driving.....I am so lucky that I did not hurt anyone else!

Pics

Its all good now, but I did lose almost all of last riding season.

 

[dean]

cyclegadgets.com offers for free a little medical information document that folds up and sticks inside a pouch on your helmet.

https://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=MICS

i have one, and i try to buy from them when possible; if a company's cool enough to provide free gear that may contribute to saving my life, i'll try and give them my business when possible.

 

[VMax_03]

cyclegadgets.com offers for free a little medical information document that folds up and sticks inside a pouch on your helmet.
https://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=MICS

i have one, and i try to buy from them when possible; if a company's cool enough to provide free gear that may contribute to saving my life, i'll try and give them my business when possible.

does the form have to be mailed in or do they pick up the info from the application?

TIA,

JW

 

[radman]

My attorney (next bike in line) will cover all the basics, as well as begin proceedings as appropos.

 

[dean]

cyclegadgets.com offers for free a little medical information document that folds up and sticks inside a pouch on your helmet.
https://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=MICS

i have one, and i try to buy from them when possible; if a company's cool enough to provide free gear that may contribute to saving my life, i'll try and give them my business when possible.

does the form have to be mailed in or do they pick up the info from the application?

TIA,

JW

i believe they send you the blank document and document holder, you fill out however much detailed info you want, fold it up, slide it in the pocket, and attach it to your helmet.

then, if you're like my buddy, you print out a sticker in big letters and attach to your helmet that reads:

"DO NOT REMOVE HELMET UNLESS HEAD IS DETACHED FROM BODY"

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