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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pete Bansen" data-source="post: 939222" data-attributes="member: 20737">First of all, if you send just the rider seat, the Russell is $395 for vinyl or $445 with a leather seating surface - it's the S-1 code.  If you have both the rider and pillion seat recovered, but just the rider seat customized, it's a "solo" S-3 and it's $480 vinyl, $545 leather.The vinyl is fine and very durable, the leather is very, very nice.I've had three Russells, two Rick Mayers, a Sargent, a couple of Corbins and a bunch of stock saddles.  As Bounce said, you can spend a lot of money trying to avoid spending money on a Russell, but once you've had a Russell that really fits you, you're spoiled for anything else.Bite the bullet and buy the Russell - there's a good reason for all of the positive feedback on them.  I say that being a little peeved at Russell currently, because I tried to set up a group buy with them this winter and they kept saying "call us next month", until I called them one month and they said, "Group buy? - that was LAST month...".  Their organizational skills leave something to be desired, but their saddles are the best.</blockquote>