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Sitting on the deck of my favorite beach-side café/coffee destination in Huntington Beach, CA on Saturday last, I and a riding bud were discussing what we always discuss, the bikes and pretty girls going by. We could hear them coming blocks away, like a thundering herd, open pipes rapping and blaring, about a half-dozen or so H-Ds enter the left turn lane across PCH from where we sit. Sitting there, waiting for the light, these riders must have thought that everyone within earshot would like to savor the sound of their open pipes, for as long as the light took to change. When the light did change, all of them proceeded to make a skidding, sliding, wheel-spinning, tire-smoking, pipes blaring U-turn to head back the way they had come. As the noise died away and the smoke cleared, my bud turned to me and said, "Is it any wonder that most people don't like motorcyclists?"

I had no answer.

 
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The OP's comment reminded me of an editorial I wrote on this subject some months back:

Personal freedom can conflict with civilized behavior

An overheard conversation:

Question: "Why do motorcycles have to be so loud?"

Answer: "They don't have to be."

And another:

Question: "Why do you run straight pipes? It just pisses off the citizens."

Answer: "That's the whole point!"

In American we pride ourselves on being a civilized society governed by laws.

We Americans also pride ourselves on enjoying unprecedented and constitutionally protected personal freedom...to a limited extent.

"Your freedom to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose."

Even our right to free speech, protected under the First Amendment, is limited: It is not okay to shout "Fire!" in a theater.

We must exercise our personal freedoms with a degree of discretion with regard for the personal rights of others and for our laws. That's civilized.

All states have laws against excessive vehicle noise. Yet few states have the will or the commitment of manpower and money to enforce these laws, especially in light of more pressing law enforcement needs.

So we have some motorcyclists who cherish personal freedom adopting exhaust systems that violate the law. The corresponding social conflicts that result are to be expected.

Two percent of the population rides motorcycles. Almost half the population disapproves of motorcycle riding and, hence, probably motorcycle riders as well. Loud exhausts are the main factor in citizen disapproval of us, our machines, our sport and lifestyle.

In a democracy (or a democratic republic), when enough citizens are motivated to take action against a minority, they win, and they have been winning. Even motorcycle enthusiast Arnold Schwarzenegger, as governor of California, signed legislation prohibiting after-market exhausts that are louder than EPA-approved factory pipes.

Loud exhausts disturb people's sleep. They disrupt conversation and other socializing. They scare little children and drivers of all ages. We know of no one other than other riders who approve of loud exhausts. That makes it about 50 to 1 against us; probably 100 to 1.

Scare so many children and seniors, waken so many sleepers, disrupt so many diners on the restaurant patio, and they will take action. And once they start, there is no telling where they will stop. Social outcasts, "miscreants" in the words of some, will have little sympathy in city council chambers and state houses.

The issue of excessive noise is a serious one. Just troll the Internet and you'll see the "Citizens Against Excessive Noise" organizations flourishing across the national map. And these folks are mad as hell. They are also determined and when they get their action cranked up, they'll roll over us.

Here are a couple of samples of what is being said:

"The only real purpose of loud pipes is to fulfill a guy's need to be a total jerk. They're a way of marking your territory, only with sound pollution instead of chemical pollution. The sound has no purpose except, 'Hey, look at me! Am I a jerk or what?'"

"Loud motorcycle pipes are the sound of selfishness... Excruciatingly loud exhaust systems from motorcycles now seem to trump everything. From the usually very quiet realm of my garden...it is the rumble and roar of singles and groups of these machines that interrupts the peace and quiet we all expect and deserve... For some reason, these attention-seeking bike riders are getting a free pass from the police... What I am against is the persistent and totally unnecessary intrusion into the daily relative quiet of my world. And the selective enforcement (non-enforcement) the police are practicing in allowing it to continue, despite laws to the contrary."
The American Motorcyclist Association’s position on the issue is that “few other factors contribute more to misunderstanding and prejudice against the motorcycling community than excessively loud motorcycles."

Past Harley-Davidson COO Jim McCaslin said, “...every Hog lovin’ one of us must do everything we can to protect our sport and keep it as strong as it is today. No one expects everyone to change out their straight pipes overnight. But we all must consider changing out our thinking. We need to think about the consequences our actions have on others, before others take action against us.”

National motorcycle rally organizers, in the face of anti bike vehemence from locals, police checkpoints and ticketing campaigns, and actions by legislatures, are asking participants to "ride with respect" by keeping sound levels down.

Even motorcycle race organizations, in pursuit of more social acceptance, are requiring muffled bikes.

We do not want more laws and regulation, especially when it comes to motorcycles. We do not want law enforcement to have more reasons to stop and cite us. We would be better off to police ourselves.

We favor freedom when it comes to making decisions regarding how we accessorize or customize our rides. We want to be able to swing our fist, but need to avoid hitting someone else in the nose.

If you want more volume out of your exhausts, you are free (at least for now) to acquire pipes or mufflers that allow it, but use that freedom with discretion. Most after-market exhausts – even straight pipes – are tolerably quiet...until the throttle butterflies open and big charges of fuel and air go bang in the cylinders.

So it is reasonable, then, to resist the urge to twist the right grip after dark when people are trying to sleep, when we're in residential areas or shopping, dining and business office districts; when children or senior citizens are nearby, in hospital and school zones.

And, if we really want to get noticed, we should install headlight modulators, wear high-viz apparel and install aftermarket horns which will get an errant driver's attention.

We've all seen the signs at city limits: "Use of engine brakes prohibited." That's because the citizenry has spoken out against unwarranted noise and has acted to preserve the community's peace and quiet.

If riders don't get their own noise act together, expect to see the sign that says: "Motorcycles prohibited."

We'll only have ourselves to blame.

 
I get pissed every time I go in a National Park and encounters herds of bikes with straight pipes. Of all places, one should be able to enjoy peace and quiet in a NP. It would be simple to place sensors at the gates and to equip the Rangers with testing equipment as well.

 
There's a guy at my work named HAMMER. If you saw or know him, you know why. Not many, maybe Zilla, given his training, and relative young age, would approach HAMMER in a show of testosterone. Maybe.

HAMMER rides Harley.

... a quiet Harley. Quieter than mine. Mine is muffled, but still too loud. I know it's loud. And I don't care. Greatest fun of all is to ride the Ultra to an FJR event, point the stacks at the crowd and let 'er rip. So https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/****.gif you too!
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So https://www.fjrforum.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/default/****.gif and Hugs n' Kisses

(HiYa TWN!)

..What's really interesting is to read the hatred HD HOG owners have of the sound of loud piped, screaming, irritatingly incompetent and reckless 4-cylinder rice riders.

So it's all where you come from, your perceptions are your reality.

To quote "I reject you reality and substitute my own".

 
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I attended the Lonestar Rally in Galveston, TX this past weekend. Tons of harleys, and a pretty fair amount of sport bikes also...those with the obnoxious loud pipes that insisted on revving the phuck out of their engines at every opportunity, especially at 6:30 am each morning at the motel and waking everyone, including the unfortunate guests NOT attending the rally, are true **** heads. That is all.
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My house (for the last 31 years) is the second house in from a busy residential street. (It used to be a beautiful, quiet street, but expansion changed that). I can't tell you how many times (mostly HD/cruisers, but also a few 4 cylinder bikes) that some twatwaddle comes rolling by, on flat ground, and 2 blocks away from the nearest stoplight, traveling at constant velocity, will PULL HIS CLUTCH IN, REV THE **** OUT OF HIS BIKE, THEN LET THE CLUTCH BACK OUT, without shifting or completeing any other speed related maneuver. THAT, my friends, is the true definition of an *******. His picture and sound should be in the dictionary.

I get up fairly early (4 AM) for work, and thus, I go to bed fairly early. I'm pretty tolerant: I know it's early in the evening, and kids will be playing, and people will mow their lawns, and I understand. It's the disregard for anyone else's rights, the utter disrespect, that grinds my cookies. I can't begin to tell you how badly I want to wring their necks. What I'd like to do is find where they live, then, on my way to work, before 4:30 in the morning, pull my car up next to their bedroom windows and honk the horn for about 15 seconds.

Part of the problem, at least where I live, is that a whole lot of law enforcement also rides, mostly HDs. I know a couple of them. I mostly love our local cops, and have enjoyed their service, and their honesty. But I sure wish they would enforce the sound ordinances better. They sure come around quick when some kid is shooting off illegal fireworks. Isn't that mostly about bothering people with noise pollution too?

Sorry for the rant. Can you tell this subject is a hot button for me?

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.......

 
After May, you all know how I feel. HD riders can suck a ****. When one of those douchetards gets in front of me, I have no problem gassing it and leaving that ******** and his piece of ****, wannabe excuse for a motorcycle in my dust. **** their loud pipes...I ever tell you guys about the time I kicked a custom Harley over at Stone Face Tavern?? Haha...

We somehow ended up with two idiots that had open pipe HD style bikes. Probably not even really Harleys. One of them had this voice activated lowering system and the owner wouldn't shut up about it. So we all pulled out of the MC parking by the front door and he stops to wait for his hefer to get out of the *******. As we're stopped next to the door and the security guard, the ***** lights that bike up to redline. My ******* ears were ringing it was so loud. I kicked him behind the seat, mostly to get his attention, but he was too stupid to hold his bike up, so it fell to the floorboards. Not even all the way over. He fell down and I knew it was coming, so I jumped off my bike and waited for him to get up. He got up talking big ****, so I shoved him hard and he fell back down.

At that point, he realized he had been drinking and I hadn't. He also realized I was super pissed and he was in for a beating. So, his cow came out the door, helped him up, and they rode away, with less useless noise. Turd!

 
You want quiet??? Well then, you should attend the next US Sidecar Association National Rally. Average age in the late 70s and after 9:00 PM there is nothing to hear but the hum of hundreds of CPAP machines and the occasional firing of a defibrillator.

 
You want quiet??? Well then, you should attend the next US Sidecar Association National Rally. Average age in the late 70s and after 9:00 PM there is nothing to hear but the hum of hundreds of CPAP machines and the occasional firing of a defibrillator.
umm, Spearfish, yes?

 
Loud pipes save lives.
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Of course, actually knowing how to ride the motorcycle would be more valuable but who am I to judge.

My favorite part of the whole loud pipe HD experience is that the straight pipes actually decrease performance in many cases. They change the torque curve and more often than not, lower the torque. I used to love reading the technical section of American Iron magazine for that very reason. They just could not understand why their straight piped Sportsters would not run properly and seemed slower than when they were stock. What was really interesting is that they never seemed to believe the honest, technical answers the editors gave them.

As much respect as I have for Harley Davidson motorcycles and for many of the folks that ride them, most of those folks did not buy HDs for their performance. They bought the HD for the image. We are a different group. Motorcyclists are a minority and we are a minority among motorcyclists. We can rant and rave here, but we are really preaching to the choir.

 
My pirate friends don't understand the power rangers and vice versa.

Sadly, we have more in common than most want to attempt explore.

Me, I just ride whatever my heart, wallet, and health allow.

 
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